I get dropped by old dudes wearing hi-vis vests and campy dayglo bodysuits

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Elderberry wrote:
Depends on where his rear wheel in the dropouts. If you're back from the very ends much at all on horizontal dropouts, wheel removal's a real pain when the fender's too close. I'm assuming you're talking about his crosscheck, btw.

right, i forget about the horizontal dropouts. Well I need one of those anyways.

Sat, 01/17/2009 - 17:32
bexley
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Thanks a fucking lot, thread. I think I'll be putting in an order for a Quickbeam as soon as I can fetch a good price for the Gazelle I just bought. I'm getting so excited just thinking about the gearing options. Dingle-cog/freewheel? S3X? Nexus hub?

Best of all, I'll finally have a frame that deserves the investment of S&S couplers and that I won't mind slicing up.

I've already resigned myself to becoming poor in 2009. Talk me out of this now.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 06:58
EJ
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Do it, do it, do it! Tarck is about encouragement.

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Sun, 01/18/2009 - 10:24
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bexley wrote:
Thanks a fucking lot, thread. I think I'll be putting in an order for a Quickbeam as soon as I can fetch a good price for the Gazelle I just bought.

For the same amount of money, you could get a custom Marinoni, especially with the CAD being what it is right now. Pretty sure they could build it with couplers too which would be a plus since it's much easier to build a bike with 'em than to retrofit.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:03
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Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:22
y
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do it!

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:24
asterisk
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I wish their bikes still looked like that...

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:44
y
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Yeah, the newer production bikes are pretty fuggo. Can't really blame them though since that's what sells and they gotta make money somehow BUT! It's a well known "secret" that you can still call 'em up and get a lugged bike handmade by Giuseppi himself, custom geo, lugs, old logos, your choice of color etc. for about half of what that would normally cost. I've been to their shop a few times and everyone there is super nice. Give 'em a call and ask.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 13:29
barba

I wouldn't trade a Gazelle for a Quickbeam. No sir.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 14:52
y
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I want one of these:

1947 Alex Singer

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 16:32
bexley
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jacques wrote:
For the same amount of money, you could get a custom Marinoni, especially with the CAD being what it is right now. Pretty sure they could build it with couplers too which would be a plus since it's much easier to build a bike with 'em than to retrofit.

Hrm, I should consider him. But I never knew that he does coupled frames. S&S? Fuck, I'll be back there for a visit around July, so I could get fit here and pick up the bike in summer. Fairytale.

I know he still does some custom lugged work, but you think he's still open to taking orders when he may have something functionally equivalent but fugly on the shelf? When I visited the factory it was with someone who talked him into doing some ungodly painting of an Aerospoke, so I guess they can be talked into things. I just don't want to make him build a bike that he's not interested in building--for the sake of my bike and not wanting to bother a frame builder who's busy enough.

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I wouldn't trade a Gazelle for a Quickbeam. No sir.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Gazelle. I'll love it to death for as long as it takes me to get a nice Randonneur built, and I may even keep it if some unexpected money comes my way or if I stop moving every 2 years. I'm just sick of putting work and money into a bike, getting attached to it, and then having to sell it when I move. I still think about every bike that's happened with.

With a custom, coupled Randonneur, the thing will be so fucking useful and transportable that I'll finally have a partner for life. You wait and see, I'll even find a way to procreate with it.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 16:34
bexley
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Jesus, that Alex Singer is so wacky. I love it.

And barba, do you know the Gazelle I'm talking about? It's a nice one, but a lot of Gazelle's are run-of-the-mill.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 16:38
mander
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Me @ that Singer just now: "Augggh!"

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:04
barba

I have a soft spot for Gazelles (wanted but never had, sigh). Most I have seen are quite nice. Which model do you have?

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:09
mander
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In rando/ audax news, I just got a Shimano 70 model dynohub for £42 at wiggle. Especially with the pound so low , that's a super deal. I'm stoked to start being able to see things at night.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:22
asterisk
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What headline are you going to go with? I'm close to trading in my halogen Lumotec for a Supernova E3 but the price is a bit high.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:32
y
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That's a dope deal. Might just get one.

And Bex, if he built this monstrosity, I don't think he'd have any reserves building you a classy travel bike.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:34
mander
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I was thinking about the Lumotec, only because I'm po'. How do you like yours asterisk?

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:38
mander
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Protip for JACQUES and others: lately there are always £5 discount coupon codes for wiggle that can easily be googled.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:39
asterisk
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It works as good as other halogen lights but the beam can get lost in wet weather. I really like the optics of the reflector, it spreads the beam out well on the road surface and provides a focused pattern out in front of you for street signs/cars/etc. I adapted a Shimano flightdeck mount to mount the light on my handlebar which makes it easy to switch between bikes. The included mount for the fork crown doesn't work so well with cantilever brakes. I also found one of those fork mount adapters but haven't taken the time to try it out.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 18:55
bexley
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jacques wrote:
That's a dope deal. Might just get one.

And Bex, if he built this monstrosity, I don't think he'd have any reserves building you a classy travel bike.

Duly noted. I just hope he had to cry himself to sleep the night he finished that build.

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I have a soft spot for Gazelles (wanted but never had, sigh). Most I have seen are quite nice. Which model do you have?

barba, the one I have was built for a Dutch team:

So, you said you have deep pockets for Gazelles? Oh, you said soft spot. But srsly, let me know if you're interested. If I could keep a stable of bikes this wouldn't be going anywhere; I need it until I get something else though.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 20:15
bigmatt

Click here for a chap in the UK's test on a bunch of generator and battery powered lights. [url]http://yacf.co.uk/forum] FYI from that test the Solidlight (old model), B&M Cygo, IQ Fly, E6, Edelux, Inoled Extreme, and Supernova E3 are all generator lights. Everything else is battery powered. I believe I will be getting a B&W Cygo for my Shimano generator hub. Well as you as I can find one, Peter White Cyclessays they will be in mid-February. Just as much light output (or more) as the Edelux, Inoled or the Supernova E3 at like half the cost.

Sun, 01/18/2009 - 22:22
cookietruck
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just got this in email. i just might get a randonneuse built...just don't know yet.

Overall, the handling of a _good_ randonneur bike with a front load
and wider tires is remarkably similar to the handling of a racing
bike with no load and narrow tires, as Phil mentioned. That is the
beauty of a _good_ randonneur bike, as you get the speed of a racing
bike with added versatility.

Both have steep angles (usually 73 degrees), but the randonneur bike
has much more fork rake. There are some minor handling differences as
you approach the cornering limit, which you may or may not feel:

- the racing bike reacts more to leaning, because it has more wheel
flop. It reacts more quickly to your input. The bike first falls into
the curve, then goes straight after you "caught" it, rather than
cornering on a constant radius. This is great for 90-degree turns,
for example, in criteriums. Hairpins are a bit more "hairy," because
you'll have to correct more to keep the bike on a constant radius.

- the randonneur bike is steered more into the corner, but once you
are cornering, it will be on a more constant radius, yet easily
adjusted. Hairpin turns are easy, whereas a criterium would be more
difficult, as the bike does not react before you do. Basically, you
set up the bike for the corner. The randonneur bike handles more
precisely - you could hit a quarter lying on the road in mid-corner.

- under a tired rider, the randonneur bike will be more easy to keep
riding straight (reacts less to leaning).

By the way, most classic racing bikes before 1965 had a "randonneur"
geometry, because they were designed for long races over challenging
courses in small groups, rather than riding in a huge pack jostling
for position. (Tires were wider, too.)

The mechanics behind this and the exact geometries for various tire
sizes, etc., have been discussed in Bicycle Quarterly, most recently
in Volume 5, No. 3 ("How to Design a Well-Handling Bicycle").

Mon, 01/19/2009 - 00:44
bexley
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Thanks.

Tarck is about edification.

Mon, 01/19/2009 - 06:19
mander
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bigmatt wrote:
Click here for a chap in the UK's test on a bunch of generator and battery powered lights. [url]http://yacf.co.uk/forum] FYI from that test the Solidlight (old model), B&M Cygo, IQ Fly, E6, Edelux, Inoled Extreme, and Supernova E3 are all generator lights. Everything else is battery powered. I believe I will be getting a B&W Cygo for my Shimano generator hub. Well as you as I can find one, Peter White Cyclessays they will be in mid-February. Just as much light output (or more) as the Edelux, Inoled or the Supernova E3 at like half the cost.

Just ordered one from dotbike here in the UK for ~£70 shipped---a bit pricy for me but I think it's going to be worth it. Thanks for the tip.

Tue, 01/20/2009 - 08:25
Elderbear
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bexley wrote:
jacques wrote:
That's a dope deal. Might just get one.

And Bex, if he built this monstrosity, I don't think he'd have any reserves building you a classy travel bike.

Duly noted. I just hope he had to cry himself to sleep the night he finished that build.

I just let out a little scream inside, startled at that marinoni's presence in the audax/rando thread... then I saw that it was simply used as an illustration of Marinoni's versatility. All is well.

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Tue, 01/20/2009 - 17:13
frankstoneline
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With the sale of the landshark and pending sale of the bareknuckle, I've got some cash running around and need a versatile bike. I'm thinking of trying to put together a rough and tumble setup like this (full fenders, rack options etc), any ideas?

Tue, 01/20/2009 - 23:08
mander
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Sweet! Zugster is going to start making tarck rando bags. I've always been kinda ambivalent about waxed cotton bags... i'm stoked about this new development.

http://www.zugsterbags.com/blog/handlebar-bag-details

Wed, 01/21/2009 - 11:57
Elderbear
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Hell yeah! No bartape, no brakes, no problem, right brah!?

But seriously, that looks quite nice.

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Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:43
asterisk
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Whoa, those are pretty sweet. Needs more neon though.

Wed, 01/21/2009 - 12:45
mander
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He says they're going to be expensive (250+)... too bad. They're cool but out of my reach.

It's a custom company, i bet they will make them in whatever colour you want. Apparently zugster panniers are also in the works. The fabled tarck ass touring bike may not be too far off.

Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:07
Elderbear
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Yeah, I read that wince-inducing price in the link... unfortunate.

I don't think I've ever seen straps like that go around the drops. I suppose that's not really a place one's hands would normally be, though, so it'd probably work.

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Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:21
Larry Winget
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Elderberry wrote:
Yeah, I read that wince-inducing price in the link... unfortunate.

I don't think I've ever seen straps like that go around the drops. I suppose that's not really a place one's hands would normally be, though, so it'd probably work.

Pricing is on par with Berthoud. If you want cheap, get this.

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Wed, 01/21/2009 - 13:33
Tail Hook Lengthener
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$250 for that bag is crazy. There are a lot of nicer bags for that much, also hand-made.

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Wed, 01/21/2009 - 17:17
bigmatt

A good alternative to some of the high priced bags are Acorn bags. It is a husband and wife team that hand make each bag. Because they are so small they open up ordering system on the first of each month and then when the quota is meet they stop taking orders. I bought a used Acorn large saddle bag and it is extremely well made. I will eventually buy another bag from them or one of the bags from Velo-Orange. Here is the new Rando front bag they are currently working on: (No price yet)

http://www.acornbags.com/

Wed, 01/21/2009 - 18:26
bexley
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Rivendell replied and said they can install S&S couplers (though at a pretty inflated price of $550). This is looking promising. I even got a job offer, so I may not have to exchange the presence of unfrozen foods in my diet for a Quickbeam after all.

Mark from Riv even said something about selling the frameset alone. I didn't know they did this with the Quickbeam. Waiting to hear about the price. If the build (sans saddle and pedals) is $1600, what would y'all say is a fair price for the frameset + BB and headset?

Mmm hmm. Mmmmmm hmmmmmm.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 10:53
Elderbear
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I thought the 'beam had been discontinued or put on hiatus or whatever their terminology is... Do they just have a few laying around er what?

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Thu, 01/22/2009 - 12:17
bexley
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I'm glad I disregarded that rumour and just emailed him. Apparently there's still a few around (dibs) and the next batch, in silver and with a kickstand mount in place of the chainstay bridge, is expected March/April-ish.

Silver could be nice. I dig the green though, especially for a bike called the Quickbeam.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 12:43
Elderbear
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Aaaawww... I see... Silver is cool, but green really brings the Ent vibe for sure. Hope that all works out for ya! 'Twould be a sweet ride.

EDIT: Just checked out Rivendell's site, and they changed the copy in the Quickbeam section to reflect exactly what you said about the silver thing. Tempting, but it would be ridiculous for me to attempt that sort of purchase in the shape I'm in right now.

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Thu, 01/22/2009 - 12:49
cookietruck
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this is pretty cool.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 15:40
Captain Gnarlock
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that Mercian looks pretty much perfect. to me.

*edit* I guess it would need a rear rack or panniers tho for serious touring.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 15:44
Larry Winget
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kowloon wrote:
that Mercian looks pretty much perfect. to me.

Yep, but why on earth would any custom buyer choose that ugly logo font over the old school gothic version?

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Thu, 01/22/2009 - 16:07
bexley
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Yea, pretty much perfect to me too, but do people really need triples?

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 17:47
Captain Gnarlock
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I sure as hell don't.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 17:55
pixieshatintruck
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if you had 150 pounds of gear and were climbing some gnarly hills/mountains
you might need a triple

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 18:03
asterisk
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Triples are like insurance on touring bikes. It's better to have it than go without and risk having to walk up some hill in the middle of no where.

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 18:10
halbritt
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bexley wrote:
Yea, pretty much perfect to me too, but do people really need triples?

I do.

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Thu, 01/22/2009 - 19:12
TimArchyLime
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I just found this:

Stronglight 44/29 double.

The answer to my touring dreams. With that, you could tour on a 12-25 (maybe 12-27) cassette. If you were strong, you could probably even do a straight block.

Not really audax, but you were talking about cranks.

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Thu, 01/22/2009 - 19:19
tjayk
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TimArchy wrote:
I just found this:

Stronglight 44/29 double.

The answer to my touring dreams. With that, you could tour on a 12-25 (maybe 12-27) cassette. If you were strong, you could probably even do a straight block.

Not really audax, but you were talking about cranks.

you must need a compact derailer then, no?

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 19:24
halbritt
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Yeah, which front mech? IRD?

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Thu, 01/22/2009 - 19:30

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