I get dropped by old dudes wearing hi-vis vests and campy dayglo bodysuits

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There’s some rando drama going on on a FB pbp advice thread - some guy said real Randonneurs are self sufficient and don’t need to change their clothes on a 1200k, so I started #realrandonneurs

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Mon, 01/22/2018 - 17:14
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#Sagwagonneuring

Mon, 01/22/2018 - 17:35
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I think about this all the time—though not to that extreme. Drop bags are nice, but I've carried my own spare bibs on a 600k, nbd.
My local RBA is big on support, and he's usually stuck doing it. I like the brevets where you only see the volunteer at beginning, possibly overnight, and end.

Five-foot drops at speed on unstable terrain? Yep.

Tue, 01/23/2018 - 10:11
mander
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It goes both ways. A true shoestring brevet can be cool, but so is a bag full of dry clothes and ensure at km 400.

Tue, 01/23/2018 - 14:42
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Registration opened up at some point Friday for the brevet series of my local org (Berlin). All 90 spots in each event were sold out by Sunday when I checked

#realrandonneursetreminders

Mon, 02/05/2018 - 06:38
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Clubs first 200k is tomorrow. I feel out of shape but I’m going to give it a try

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Fri, 03/02/2018 - 19:25
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Similar situation here.

Fri, 03/02/2018 - 21:41
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I dnfd at ~105km. I have excuses

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Sat, 03/03/2018 - 15:23
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NOVELTYNAME wrote:
I dnfd at ~105km. I have excuses

So....what happened?
I passed on it as I've had the flu and have been sick for two+ weeks. I still don't feel like I could ride a Tarck Century.
Pro tip: don't get influenza.

Happily shuffling between rural corn dog stands.

Sat, 03/03/2018 - 20:29
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Yeah I took a typhoid vaccine that is giving me all the side effects. It feels like someone punched me and I have a world class stomach ache.

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Sat, 03/03/2018 - 21:56
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But today was pretty lousy all together. In fact, I’ll call it
Miguel’s no good very bad brevet

had to take the pills on an empty stomach which meant I couldn’t eat a bowl of cereal - I do this before most rides because I know how my body reacts

So, ride is in newberg, basically 30 miles from my house-ish. I missed the turn and added 10 miles to the drive. It’s ok, I still arrived 15 minutes early

As I was putting on my shoe covers the right zipper broke. FINE, I wanted to A/B these anyway, so off I go looking like I forgot a shoe cover.

Then I sign into the 300 list, scratched out and signed up for 200. RBA tells me that because I volunteer my club dues will be refunded via PayPal. Awesome.

I get a small coffee and a butter croissant that came in plastic and I feel my tummy grumble. Great. So now I’m in line for the bathroom and I’ve got a quick case of the trots. Awesome. Great fuckin start to 120 miles on the bike.

Nothing takes as much time as putting your bibs back over your base and then your jerz and jacket over that and the hi viz vest

So I missed the start by long enough to miss the faster-than-slow guys. Dammit.

And then I forgot to hit “start” on the garmin so I’m going to have to guess at controles.

Yeah it was chilly mid 30s freedom this morning so my right foot was cold.

35kms to the first control and a couple fast slow guys are straggling so I hop on with this guy I’ve seen around the last few years, has a sw8 af nobilette fop chariot, showroom condition. Simplex shifters, mafac non aero levers and raid(?) brakes, 6700 dangler, 650b, hammered honjos, fugn beaut. So we rode together for the next 15kms and out of nowhere this car honks, buzzes and swerved in front of us. He lives near where we were and reassured me that “drivers like that are not the norm”

I get dropped and get to the next control alone. I start climbing the hill section of the first 100k. I’m having a tough time - I put on some lil b and some new riders of the purple sage and some sleep and I just can’t get a groove. My head is pounding, my stomach hurts and my muscles all feel like they’ve been punched, this is a ~15km section, this should be easy!

I get to the top and start the early descent - I txt my wife to tell her that I’m not going to finish.

This is the 2nd brevet I’ve dnfd in 6 years

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Sun, 03/04/2018 - 01:30
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Damn.

Shit happens tho.

Sun, 03/04/2018 - 01:39
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kmcdon wrote:
Damn.

Shit happens tho.

chin up mig, my dnf excuse was much less good

Mon, 03/05/2018 - 00:39
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Yeah, shit happens. Whatever it’s just riding bikes

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Mon, 03/05/2018 - 01:10
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"Rando" fail this weekend.

Had a 160-mile ride from Richmond to DC planned with some friends. The route was solid and I was excited a week out. The weather here was looking not ideal for that kind of day but far from awful and we had logistics pretty dialed.

Friday this insane wind started up in the mid-Atlantic knocking over trees and taking out power. The shop lost power late in the day which was the first thing to go wrong. Nothing crazy but it just kind of threw me out of sorts and led to mistake #1. Pizza for dinner. Between chaos at the shop and other things, a proper dinner was just not in the cards.

Woke up at 5 the next morning and started getting ready. My friends were starting about 2 miles from my house and I literally live on bike Rt 1. so I said fuck it, and was going to meet them on the road at 6:15. It was cold (expected) and still VERY windy (not as expected). I at a reasonable breakfast drank coffee and pooped but felt a little off. Not sick, but just off. Wasn't my usual self, able to eat twice the normal size breakfast.
Kitted up and met the crew on the road.

Five of us planned to do the full distance with two others just rolling the first 15 miles for the hell of it. Our route was north/northwest for the first 130 miles which just happened to coincide with the direction of the headwind. Fun.

Hoping to start feeling better soon I mentally committed to not pulling for a while and just sat on the back of the group. Two guys peeled off at Ashland as we hit the leg where Bike rt 1 and 76 merge for a bit. Despite my poor state and miserable headwind, I was enjoying the route. A bit north of Ashland Rr 1 forks right onto roads that I had actually never ridden before despite countless rides this direction. The sun was out and everything except my hands was warm so I just kept on.

At store stop one, about 3 hours in, I finally ate some fig bars but realized I definitely was not eating enough food. For whatever reason, cold weather really dampens my appetite and the bad vibes seemed to be collecting in my gut. Three more hours of headwind (someone said an average of 14mph but gusts near 30) over rolling terrain. A slow, steady staircase climb up to the southern edge of the Appomattox river basin before a lazy descent into Fredericksburg. Fred has nice bike paths and a somewhat ok taco and soup place we made a lunch stop at. We sat down, warmed up and ate. 1 can of coke, good. Two tamales and a small bowl of soup felt good and filled me up but at the same time felt like not enough. Pooped in a warm and clean bathroom, good. I was starting to feel better it seemed.

We kitted up and rolled out. Fredericksburg is right on the Appomattox and as we left town we began the roughly 8-mile climb out of the river basin. The average grade is only about 1% with peaks around 4% but the northwest direction and now noticeable lack of trees meant for a slow and demoralizing grind. It was about now I realized I had become the anchor of the group. I was starting to get gapped on every hill and it was taking longer and longer to claw my way back to them.

My legs were getting more and more tired and at around 90 miles, grinding along at 4mph halfway up one of the countless little hills in the Piedmont my legs finally said "no more". I caught up with the rest of the guys who were waiting for me about 1 mile up the road and told them of my plans to abort. I knew where I was and I knew I was roughly 20 to 30 miles from my parent's house.

They rolled on and I started my death march "home". I actually caught them one more time at a planned store stop 10 miles from my destination, documented things with a few more selfies, and said goodbye for real this time.

I turned into the first real tailwind of the ride and made my way home. My decision to stuff some underwear and some shorts into my bag proved the right call. I took a shower, dried off, and sat in a recliner while I awaited my wife to complete the drive from Richmond to rescue me.

All in all, it was about 113 miles of a near-constant headwind for me. The other guys trudged on for another 25 or no north before turning east and getting a bit of respite from the wind to complete the remainder of the 160-mile journey. I was disappointed to DNF, but happy I wasn't holding them back anymore.

On the bright side I got to see some roads I had never seen before and two days later, I feel energized to get my ass in gear for the season.

Not the best way to spend a birthday. Not the worst.

Mon, 03/05/2018 - 08:02
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I hate headwinds so much. No other conditions are as effective in deterring me from going on a long ride.

Mon, 03/05/2018 - 17:02
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wind is a killer, doesn’t sound like a failure tho so much as a change of plan. Good job!

Mon, 03/05/2018 - 20:58
yummygooey

pizza is my pre-rando dinner of choice.

Tue, 03/13/2018 - 12:20
JUGE FREDD
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it puts the pepp in your step?

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Tue, 03/13/2018 - 19:38
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Pizza is great midride too. On a few of the ORR 400s there’s a stop at 300 and I’ve called ahead to order a pizza 30 mins before arrival.

Pro tip: learn the map and order your pizza ahead

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 01:39
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I didn't DNF my 200. In fact it was my quickest of all time, 7:17. Perfect weather and i managed to hang with the fastbros all day. The roads were dry so i took my plastic bike. I almost went out with no bag but thought better of it at the last minute. this made me happy as i gradually filled my porcelain rocket with bike clothes.

Sun, 03/18/2018 - 15:27
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I did a 200k yesterday on my ALAN

was either a 25° inversion or a light headwind the whole way, but no flats was a big success (I was on tubulars!)

this new guy rode with my lead group the whole way, his first brevet: https://www.strava.com/activities/1458329991

a friend of mine intentionally started an hour late because he didn't want to get up so fuckin early, and rode a solo TT a half-hour faster than us: https://www.strava.com/activities/1458228111

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Sun, 03/18/2018 - 16:13
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Anybody in PNW/etc want to join a slow SIR flèche from Portland?

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Wed, 04/04/2018 - 23:03
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RandoNewbQ: I know PBP registration dates are based upon distance you've completed previous year...but I can't find any record of it actually "selling out" recently. Any ideas what distance I should set my goal for this season to give myself the option of qualifying next year?

Thu, 04/05/2018 - 09:29
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600 or 1000 at least

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Thu, 04/05/2018 - 10:27
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600 / 1000 to have a shot to register, or in terms of my required fitness? re: fitness planned to complete 400 or 600 this season.

Not sure if the same everywhere, but the brevet calendar here (in Germany) is really Spring heavy. Most orgs have their 600 in the books my mid June. In Berlin the 1200 is like 2 weeks after the 600...unfortunately i'm not sure this will match my fitness curve

Reason I asked: getting a late start to distance riding this season. Did first 100k of the year last weekend. Could see myself attempting a 200k in a few weeks, but by that point the clubs will be up to the 400k mark.

[UPDATE] just found a 600km on September 1 in Hamburg which seems much more feasible. Is there a reason more orgs don't do fall events?

Thu, 04/05/2018 - 11:47
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dotMR wrote:
600 / 1000 to have a shot to register, or in terms of my required fitness? re: fitness planned to complete 400 or 600 this season.

1. there are/have been caps per country for registration. im not sure how many germans are allowed but with some googlin you could probably figure it out.
2. registration is done by most distance first, that is, people that have done 1200 get to register before 1000/600/400/etc.
3. Earlier registration means you get to select your start time. this may not mean a lot to you? depends on how you ride and what your goals are - 5pm start vs 10pm start vs 7am start vs 11am start.

dotMR wrote:
Not sure if the same everywhere, but the brevet calendar here (in Germany) is really Spring heavy. Most orgs have their 600 in the books my mid June. In Berlin the 1200 is like 2 weeks after the 600...unfortunately i'm not sure this will match my fitness curve

spring season vs summer season. lots of clubs only have a spring season. here in randoparadise PNW we have brevets basically from Feb-Nov. I don't want to tell you that you can do anything that you put your mind to but rando is easy, you just have to do it. there are some major mental hurdles and working through sleep deprivation but you can do it if you want to. note that for PBP registration your events have to be ACP (audax club parisenne) sanctioned.

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Reason I asked: getting a late start to distance riding this season. Did first 100k of the year last weekend. Could see myself attempting a 200k in a few weeks, but by that point the clubs will be up to the 400k mark.

i've done basically 1x100 this year and lots of 50km rides. the only training that will help you is more mileage. ride your bike all the time if you want to train. though, i did a bunch of 8/9pm start 100km perms the hot summer nights before pbp2015 - it really helped me "get comfortable" with riding fast at dusk/dark.

ride as much as you can
you are stronger than you think
but you can always train more and it will help

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Thu, 04/05/2018 - 12:53
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also where are you in germany?

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Thu, 04/05/2018 - 12:54
dotMR
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(Reply to #6479)

Appreciate the detailed reply

I'm in Berlin. The local spring season sold out in 1 day so i'll be travelling around a bit to try to complete sanctioned events.

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
3. Earlier registration means you get to select your start time. this may not mean a lot to you?

Goal is finishing so was just going to pick 90 hour (night start) and not leave any time on the table....unless someone makes a good argument for 84 hour morning start (like sleeping the night before!).

Which group did you ride with in 2015?

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
I don't want to tell you that you can do anything that you put your mind to but rando is easy, you just have to do it. there are some major mental hurdles and working through sleep deprivation but you can do it if you want to

Thanks. Most concerned about increasing mileage while working out some knee discomfort that popped up again this week around 70km mark. After awhile I stopped and stretched a bit, kept riding. I suspect it is related to hip flexibility because i've been riding flat pedals, but something to deal with nonetheless.

To your mental/sleep point, hoping sleep deprivation from having 2 toddlers translates :)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
i've done basically 1x100 this year and lots of 50km rides. the only training that will help you is more mileage. ride your bike all the time if you want to train. though, i did a bunch of 8/9pm start 100km perms the hot summer nights before pbp2015 - it really helped me "get comfortable" with riding fast at dusk/dark.

I generally commute daily by bike (15k) and was planning to get in one "longer" (50-100k) ride every week. Each month hoped to replace one of the long rides with a brevet distance (ideally sanctioned)....which is why I was asking about realistic target to aim for.

Good tip about throwing in some regular night riding too.

Thu, 04/05/2018 - 17:20
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dotMR wrote:
Goal is finishing so was just going to pick 90 hour (night start) and not leave any time on the table....unless someone makes a good argument for 84 hour morning start (like sleeping the night before!).

Which group did you ride with in 2015

an AM start might be better for you as jetlag wont be an issue. do you like riding at night? because if you get into a fast group it's a paceline after about 150km and you just hang on and do what you can do.

i registered in 2015 with the 600km group as early as i could (like, 930am our time, i had set an alarm) - i got a spot at 5:30pm. this was a good start time for me, though it was hot that day and i should have brought another bottle for the wait - the wait was like an hour or so. i think the first start time for the racer/80hr group was 4? with heats every 15 min.

as we get closer to pbp and everyone is registered ill offer more advice about day-before and day-of events. like, if you're traveling with someone who is not participating you can leave them in paris during registration and a rinko-bag is a smart purchase so you can use the metro (if you are staying in paris proper).

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Thu, 04/05/2018 - 17:52
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(Reply to #6481)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Anybody in PNW/etc want to join a slow SIR flèche from Portland?

so we have a route, looks good to me. anyone looking for a team? we need 2 to max the team

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Fri, 04/06/2018 - 14:40
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/mzZsbMr_8xQ

Somebody finally poached Jan's Gran Bois import connection now that he's cut them out

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Wed, 04/11/2018 - 19:12
kmcdon
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Oh good. I've been wanting to try some Cerfs on my road bike

Thu, 04/12/2018 - 12:53
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9:15 200k today
Not bad off the couch
Considering my training was a 100k a month ago

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Sun, 04/15/2018 - 01:21
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Yeah mig

Mon, 04/16/2018 - 20:43
dotMR
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NOVELTYNAME wrote:
9:15 200k today
Not bad off the couch
Considering my training was a 100k a month ago

HY!

Tue, 04/17/2018 - 04:02
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I was able to voltron together a rag tag team of ancien, rando and pre rando for the SIR fleche tomorrow. this is our route. If you would like to ride along, we're leaving at 7am from hillsboro. Of course, you're not going to come along but make sure to staytuned to this thread after 7am sunday and possibly into monday because i'll update with more stories and photos hopefully.

For the uninitiated, a fleche is a team event in our niche designation of cycling. You must have a maximum of 5 machines start the event and have no less than 3 machines complete the event together at the same time at a minimum distance of 360km over 24hrs. A machine is considered to be a unicycle/bicycle/tricycle/tandem/triplet/etc. Last year there was a team in the SIR Fleche with 5 tandems - reportedly the largest team ever to participate in the SIR event. The history of the fleche event dates back to olden times when a team of riders would leave the city and ride to a country home/destination on the easter weekend.

I've never done a standard 24hr fleche so this is new to me.

Our team name is TASTY RANDOS

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Fri, 04/20/2018 - 12:47
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That looks like a interesting route. Have fun!

Fri, 04/20/2018 - 13:04
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10k ft of climbing but a max grade of <13% in 2 places.
the section black box and line is gravel.

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Fri, 04/20/2018 - 14:35
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Was looking at riding over to where you'll be passing and there's a lot of lumber roads through potentially active operations. Have fun!

Fri, 04/20/2018 - 18:41
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That’s intense. Be safe and have fun!

Fri, 04/20/2018 - 18:53
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eric_ssucks wrote:
Was looking at riding over to where you'll be passing and there's a lot of lumber roads through potentially active operations. Have fun!

yeah, we plan to hit that area around 2-5pm. late for saturday work maybe?

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Fri, 04/20/2018 - 19:08
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Maybe. If it's light it's possible they're working.

Fri, 04/20/2018 - 22:47
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Road impassable
1 member dnf
Of this is going swell

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Sat, 04/21/2018 - 20:50
mander
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Allez

Sun, 04/22/2018 - 03:52
surfcat
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Dear Pronouns,

Long time no tarck, but glad to see the old place still kicking.

I am getting ready to build a new Disc Trucker and am looking for decaleur solutions for 1 1/8" threadless stems. I've seen the stuff offered by Jan Heine, VO and Tanaka and am just wondering if there are any other options I should be aware of.

I will be running a Swift Ozette bag or similar. Prefer the extra stability of running the decaleur up to the bars vs something like the VO rack with integrated decaleur (although I'm not dead-set against that solution).

TIA, off to go fuck myself now.

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Mon, 04/23/2018 - 13:18
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surfcat wrote:
build a new Disc Trucker

WHYY?

Mon, 04/23/2018 - 14:27
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Because my Big Dummy is overkill for touring, and my Box Dog Pelican is not stiff enough to carry panniers + my fat ass, and I need/want an actual touring bike/Disc Trucker. With a rando bag. Because I like having ready access to my sextant and other navigational accoutrements while riding. And snacks.

So, yes, the Disc Trucker is offtopic for this subforum, but the specific question is tangentially on point. Hence my presence here amongst you good people.

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Mon, 04/23/2018 - 14:45
dotMR
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Nowhere near what you dudes are throwing down, but rode 100k on Saturday with a buddy. "Spirited" pace...but we still stopped at a beergarden and dicked around in the woods for a bit.

105k
4h:50m riding
6h:35m elapsed

Mon, 04/23/2018 - 15:35
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Cranked out a century last weekend, 6:40 riding time (15mph avg), with no real prep or whatever. No long stops either, just a few minutes here and there, and one stop at a store to go pee and buy really weird flavored peanuts (Dill Pickle!).

This bodes well for my doing Braden's 200k this Saturday:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26229197

I'm excited to get out and ride with other people, and also to get a good sense of the roads northeast of Richmond. I usually head southeast out of the city, and I'm getting bugged biking up and down the same old strip.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Mon, 04/23/2018 - 16:18

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