That's a nice rack you got there; shame if something happened to it...

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eric_ssucks
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That's a nice rack you got there; shame if something happened to it...

Rack chat. What's the best off the rack front cargo shelf? Rear junk cage?

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:24
kmcdon
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I've been pretty happy with this one: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-black

The lady has this one with a wald basket on it, and it's pretty good: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/mini-front-rack

They both have eyelets for dynolights.

And this one is also pretty fuckin legit too: https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXT

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:27
ThurberMingus
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I’ve used the following front racks:

Surly scaffolding edition: avoid

Rawland Demiporteur: seems fine so far but have really loaded it up beyond the recommended limit yet. Mk1 obv. I have a basket on it right now.

Nitto M18: it’s okay but the tang is worthless. I’m working on a new one but it’s been on the back-burner.

Specialized Pizza: They work just fine but sit a little high. I don’t own one atm but I intend to.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 11:49
Tail Hook Lengthener
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FWIW my Orc rack just passed two years of daily service without issue. I'll probably take my fenders off today, and finally install the tiny rack he made for the rear of my NFE.

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Wed, 05/02/2018 - 12:07
Davidk
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I'm using the Pass & Stow. Takes a big porteur bag and panniers. Nice light mount with internal routing (from the hub to the front light anyway) Have also been enjoying walking my kid to preschool on it with a bungee cord seat belt.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 12:57
Recumbentist
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I'm really unhappy with the placement of the commas in the thread title.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 13:01
eric_ssucks
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Not sure what the fuck happened typing on my phone.

Edited edited.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 13:10
spaghetti
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i've had a custom (the platform is wider than normal) orc rack on my bike for four years with no issues

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 13:32
NOVELTYNAME
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i had an early orc rack with many miles and great results - 30-40?lbs of wood portage, a human, using it as a step tool for myself. i've got full confidence in his work. my buddy had an orc rack that broke on pbp though, so there's that.

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Wed, 05/02/2018 - 14:02
JLN
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(Reply to #9)

kmcdon wrote:
I've been pretty happy with this one: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-black

The lady has this one with a wald basket on it, and it's pretty good: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/mini-front-rack

They both have eyelets for dynolights.

And this one is also pretty fuckin legit too: https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXT

I’ve been using that Soma Porteur for a while now. The only think I really don’t like is the eyelet attachment. It’d be fine for a sweet fixie on the front axle, but using proper fork eyelets took some grinding of the included tabs to make work.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 16:59
Andrew_Squirrel
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Do you think the number of bike crashes from poorly designed (or mounted) front racks + recent popularity spike in front loading has increased in the past few years?
Every time I see a sub par front rack install I'm like

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 17:24
kmcdon
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(Reply to #11)

JLN wrote:
kmcdon wrote:
I've been pretty happy with this one: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-black

The lady has this one with a wald basket on it, and it's pretty good: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/mini-front-rack

They both have eyelets for dynolights.

And this one is also pretty fuckin legit too: https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXT

I’ve been using that Soma Porteur for a while now. The only think I really don’t like is the eyelet attachment. It’d be fine for a sweet fixie on the front axle, but using proper fork eyelets took some grinding of the included tabs to make work.

I didn't even use those silly tabs.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 18:00
tjayk
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How does one contact Orc?

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 20:51
heavymetal
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The Haulin' Colin is super sw8 but pretty much unavailable. Forget I mentioned it.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 20:58
jeffro
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Orc can be found on Flickr IIRC.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 21:03
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #15)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Do you think the number of bike crashes from poorly designed (or mounted) front racks + recent popularity spike in front loading has increased in the past few years?
Every time I see a sub par front rack install I'm like

There's no way that front rack failures have brought about 1/1000th of the number of crashes and injuries that the brakeless fixie craze caused.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 05/02/2018 - 21:30
EddBread
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Anyone tried the Crust rack as a platform only?

Might be able to take more load compared to the Nitto Marks rack

Outside is $,$$$

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 02:13
kmcdon
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that looks an awful lot like the rawland one

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 11:25
eric_ssucks
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This one?!?!?

https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-marks-rack-2/

That's a mark's rack, same as the rivdork one. It's fine, but something more purpose built would be super nice.

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 13:46
joy of vaping
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the tubus Tara is nearly the ideal lowrider rack. I think you could take some design cues form that in a platform rack and have something both adjustable and strong. I really hate the way the struts are attached and adjusted on the marks rack.

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 14:18
sparksflyhigh
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I suspect the best way might be a steel version of the soma rack with a beefier tang at the crown, and also with the lower struts non adjustable but also untriangulated. I've found with my steel rack that it's relatively easy to bend the lower struts around a bit without breaking it as long as there aren't extra stiffening tubes like Fred's early racks had, and it retains its stiffness when installed on the fork. That way you could just bend the lower legs to adjust for fork braze on spacing and level the platform and then use the tang to lock it in that position. It would also help if those lower struts attached at wider points at the front of the platform instead of right in the middle as it is

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 14:31
puelnewdle
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General opinion on the Origin8 front rack? Seems like it might not be any wigglier than the cheap Soma eco porteur, and cheaper.

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 17:14
kmcdon
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every origin8 product that I've ever used has been a steaming pile of dogshit

that being said, my buddy seems to like his rack from them.

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 17:18
EddBread
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(Reply to #23)

eric_ssucks wrote:
This one?!?!?

https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-marks-rack-2/

That's a mark's rack, same as the rivdork one. It's fine, but something more purpose built would be super nice.

Nope this one: https://crustbikes.com/products/crust-rack/

Outside is $,$$$

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 18:07
EddBread
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(Reply to #24)

kmcdon wrote:
that looks an awful lot like the rawland one

Yes but it’s chromoly

Outside is $,$$$

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 18:09
Rusty Piton
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(Reply to #25)

kmcdon wrote:
every origin8 product that I've ever used has been a steaming pile of dogshit

that being said, my buddy seems to like his rack from them.

I have a pair of handlebars that I love!

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Thu, 05/03/2018 - 18:54
jeffro
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Their rebranded Cane Creek lizard levers were fine, but yeah a lot of it is duff.

Thu, 05/03/2018 - 19:32
JUGE FREDD
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huh this is surprisingly nice: https://shop.mashsf.com/mash-front-rack.html

badass finish options as well

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Fri, 05/04/2018 - 16:22
eric_ssucks
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I wonder what alternative stays will work with that?

Fri, 05/04/2018 - 18:30
Andrew_Squirrel
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Yeah, wonder why they don't offer two different stay options to sweeten the demountable feature.

Fri, 05/04/2018 - 18:32
jimmythefly
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Ohh they really beefed up the tang, nice.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 01:02
jimmythefly
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RE: struts. I would try some of this hardware:
https://www.modernbike.com/salsa-8mm-strut-mount-kit
https://www.modernbike.com/salsa-long-rack-struts-8mm-x-370mm-pair-black
https://www.modernbike.com/axiom-adjustable-versalock-arm-extensions---11

Blackburn and Trek also have simlar rack hardware but I'm not sure if it's available separately. And there's always the Wald adjustable struts.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 01:09
jimmythefly
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deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 01:10
NOVELTYNAME
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I’ve got the salsa struts. They’re heavy af

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 01:44
igor

That's a pretty clever design for track/fixie/no braze-on forks. It looks like it mounts on 9mm axles. I wonder if it would work with QR. Also, no way that tang is fitting behind a brake caliper. That thing is thiccc.

ye olde fronche cranks

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 12:16
mander
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DQ: What don't people like about marks rack?

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 13:06
Shortpants
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(Reply to #36)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
huh this is surprisingly nice: https://shop.mashsf.com/mash-front-rack.html

badass finish options as well

I think I mentioned this is whatever fucking thread spawned the rack chat. I'm surprised yall approve. I certainly approve but then again you'd have to take my cetma from my cold dead hands.

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 13:43
Shortpants
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igor wrote:
That's a pretty clever design for track/fixie/no braze-on forks. It looks like it mounts on 9mm axles. I wonder if it would work with QR. Also, no way that tang is fitting behind a brake caliper. That thing is thiccc.

Literally everybody on this forum complains that the tangs are too thin and weak on most racks. Suddenly a thick tang appears, "dang that's too thick!"

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 13:44
sparksflyhigh
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I approve of the tang thickness, if not its attachment to the platform

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 14:25
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #39)

Shortpants wrote:
igor wrote:
That's a pretty clever design for track/fixie/no braze-on forks. It looks like it mounts on 9mm axles. I wonder if it would work with QR. Also, no way that tang is fitting behind a brake caliper. That thing is thiccc.

Literally everybody on this forum complains that the tangs are too thin and weak on most racks. Suddenly a thick tang appears, "dang that's too thick!"

Eh, that's just VO guy

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 19:57
TimArchyLime
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Wald basket attached to cheap front rack or basket attached with included hardware?

What is the cheapest front rack that attaches to eyelets at the dropout?

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Sat, 05/05/2018 - 21:22
ThurberMingus
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Soma Lucas. Supposedly okay.

Sat, 05/05/2018 - 21:44
Todd
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I have a Lucas you can have

Sun, 05/06/2018 - 00:12
TimArchyLime
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HY!

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 05/06/2018 - 00:24
EddBread
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(Reply to #44)

ThurberMingus wrote:
Soma Lucas. Supposedly okay.

Had a mate take that into MTB country and snapped a tang. But otherwise yeah pretty good. I put a 4mm thick tang on my front rack (was paranoid.)

Outside is $,$$$

Sun, 05/06/2018 - 09:02
TimArchyLime
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Is the tang the piece of metal that attaches the rack to the top of the fork?

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 05/06/2018 - 09:20
EddBread
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(Reply to #46)

TimArchyLime wrote:
Is the tang the piece of metal that attaches the rack to the top of the fork?


Yup that's a tang, you can also use a stainless steel angle bracket from any hardware store, available in 3mm or 4mm with holes drilled out to fit M6 bolts, depending on the kind of terrain you'll be on and the load you'll be carrying.

Outside is $,$$$

Sun, 05/06/2018 - 09:39
newellbt

"diving board plate" as RivenGrant of Petersendell calls it

Mon, 05/07/2018 - 16:28
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #48)

igor wrote:
That's a pretty clever design for track/fixie/no braze-on forks. It looks like it mounts on 9mm axles. I wonder if it would work with QR. Also, no way that tang is fitting behind a brake caliper. That thing is thiccc.

Just use a longer recessed nut, like the ones needed for tapered carbon forks. The modern Shimano dual pivots come with several lengths in the box.

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Mon, 05/07/2018 - 16:55
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #49)

mander wrote:
DQ: What don't people like about marks rack?

It's a collapsing parallelogram with no static joints

Rivendell thinks they can avoid lawsuits by saying that a nylon toestrap tethering the tombstone to your handlebars is required

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 05/07/2018 - 16:58
eric_ssucks
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It does come with a tang attachment so you can put it on a road bike and then have it collapse, as well. I need a new fuckin rack.

Mon, 05/07/2018 - 17:01

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