Mr. Dilthey's own thread for posting jackass bikes that he likes.

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drwelby
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The supple disc fork is the holy grail of beardy internet spencer nerddom. Let a man dream.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 10:07
euclid
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Even if you remove the caliper/fork leg interaction, I'm pretty sure the tire and disc forces in different planes will put torque on the hub around a different axis than the axle. A noodly fork would twist under hard braking.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 11:26
euclid
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Rim brakes are in the same plane so don't have this problem.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 11:26
euclid
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Ugh butter

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 11:27
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I am so glad this thread got hijacked with typical Tarck talk.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 11:29
kmcdon
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plane

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 12:04
crabbi
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plane

Sneaky Viking wrote:
if you're here, you probably fucked up somewhere along the line.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 13:08
fixed
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plain

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 13:17
euclid
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petition to filter plain to margarine

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 13:32
Whippin Skidz
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(Reply to #160)

euclid wrote:
petition to filter plain to margarine

I'm really tempted but it's starting to get out of hand.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 15:39
crowding
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(Reply to #161)

euclid wrote:
petition to filter plain to margarine

folks will be commargarinineing about that for sure

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 15:56
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Anything that makes tarck even more obtuse for laypeople is fine with me.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 17:55
oogens
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Why did we get rid of shifter tho?

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 20:07
Whippin Skidz
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Fixed

Tue, 05/09/2017 - 20:38
fixed
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plain

Wed, 05/10/2017 - 08:46
mdilthey
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26/M/41t N/W

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 13:36
kmcdon
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I almost like that, but what I hate the most are the wheels.

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 13:45
Todd
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Gawd. nope.
That long ball saddlebag.

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 13:48
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Nope.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 13:54
NOVELTYNAME
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if it wasnt VO
if it didnt have sram
if it had a single spacer that wasnt striped
if it wasnt cable pull avid
if those werent dumb spoke wheels
if my ass fit a cambium

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 13:58
hiimjoshimabike
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I saw this and thought of you <3

Just ride your fucking bike and don't be a dick about it.

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 14:11
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #172)

mdilthey wrote:

The full frame bag says 'I hold lots of small things I rarely take off the spencer on a tour' but the handlebars say 'but this spencer is for fucking around and doing errands here and there so it's rare that the frame bag actually holds anything other than a lock and tools and maybe a windbreaker'

The seat bag says 'I am redundant when there is a full frame bag on the spencer already, what am I doing here'

The water bottle says 'I contain coffee from a local café on those low-key fuck-around rides that I will get off the spencer to drink when I get into an Instagrammable location' but where it's mounted says 'and I'll get a mouthful of mud when I try to drink'

The wheels say 'super modern weight weenie techie bro' but the tires say 'wanna-be retro'

The entire spencer says 'I am a confused mist-mash of components and accessories that seems like a parts-bin-spencer' but the headset washers/headset and seatpost/stem say 'I took pains to choose every single part on this spencer'

It's a little confused.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 15:16
fixed
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^^ good recap!

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 16:47
ShartAttack
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Always drives me crazy when people put tiny little brake levers on Jones bars so that you can't use the widest hand position and still have your hands on the brakes.

Full frame bags on daily riders/fuckaround bikes also perplex me, kinda like snowman says. Guess I don't know anybody who has had a frame bag picked through or stolen off a locked spencer but I don't know many people.

*my idea of a fuckaround spencer is that it needs to be able to haul a couple bags of chips + beer + ice cream so I probably have different ideas in general

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 17:07
Goddamnit Gunther
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If you spend that kind of money on tires and can't line the fucking labels up, you're a dumbass. That detail really adds to the whole esthetic of that bike

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Thu, 05/11/2017 - 23:37
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #176)

ShartAttack wrote:
Full frame bags on daily riders/fuckaround bikes also perplex me, kinda like snowman says. Guess I don't know anybody who has had a frame bag picked through or stolen off a locked spencer but I don't know many people.

Yeah, that gets me too. I've used full frame bags plenty, and the bottom part takes a lot of patience to pack correctly. The space doesn't really work for anything without effort. Yet, a 'fuck around' spencer usually needs to carry a lot of things. One of those big Carradice 'trunk' seat bags is *so* much more functional in a situation like that. Easier to get at, holds much more stuff, holds a wider variety of things, etcetera.

I wouldn't mind except for what it does to the water bottle. That is actually anti-functional. The trunk bag would allow for two bottles out of the way of tire spray.

I doubt this setup lasts a year.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 02:48
kmcdon
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I'm loving the jandd framebag that I just got for my yolobiek, but it only holds 3 beers.

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 09:45
drwelby
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(Reply to #178)

ShartAttack wrote:
Full frame bags on daily riders/fuckaround bikes also perplex me, kinda like snowman says. Guess I don't know anybody who has had a frame bag picked through or stolen off a locked spencer but I don't know many people.

I'm also perplexed by the appeal of "my frame bag killed my easy access to water so I can have the carrying capacity of a Trapper Keeper".

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 13:03
Whippin Skidz
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Full frame bags are a bit too much for anything beyond heavy bikepacking as far as I can tell, but half frame bags are the shit. Pockets For Things and room for bottles.

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 13:30
euclid
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(Reply to #180)

DumbJim wrote:
Full frame bags are a bit too much for anything beyond heavy bikepacking as far as I can tell, but half frame bags are the shit. Pockets For Things and room for bottles.

yep yep

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 13:47
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #181)

DumbJim wrote:
Full frame bags are a bit too much for anything beyond heavy bikepacking as far as I can tell, but half frame bags are the shit. Pockets For Things and room for bottles.

To be fair, unless you are a tallbro the partial frame bags complicate water-bottle removal or force you to use underwhelming sideload cages.
I'm in the process of upgrading from the smaller Jandd triangular bags to one that extends the full length of the top tube and I'm already bummed that the DT bottle is going from easy access to frustrated yanking.

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 13:49
kmcdon
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(Reply to #182)
Fri, 05/12/2017 - 13:54
ShartAttack
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While we're bitching about frame bags, does anybody else have a problem with road bikes and frame bags? Putting my Revelate bag on my road spencer was Thigh Rub City. The little Jannd triangle works pretty good for leg clearance but it doesn't hold much more than a sandwich (which is still better than not being able to hold a sandwich).

TC I like triples and fat spencer cranks because they provide more clearance for Looney Bin shenanigans

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 14:16
akasnowmaaan
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Dunno, I'm literal Thunder Thighs (I think each leg is equivalent in mass to a small Asian woman) and I don't have problems with that.

The fatbike frame bag was OK too, I think because of the crazy Q factor on a 190mm frame.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 14:38
newellbt
(Reply to #185)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I'm in the process of upgrading from the smaller Jandd triangular bags to one that extends the full length of the top tube and I'm already bummed that the DT bottle is going from easy access to frustrated yanking.

this one little trick gave me a bit of extra clearance for my cage/bottle.

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 16:37
akasnowmaaan
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This one is good too, and it's aluminum

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 17:09
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #187)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
DumbJim wrote:
Full frame bags are a bit too much for anything beyond heavy bikepacking as far as I can tell, but half frame bags are the shit. Pockets For Things and room for bottles.

To be fair, unless you are a tallbro the partial frame bags complicate water-bottle removal or force you to use underwhelming sideload cages.
I'm in the process of upgrading from the smaller Jandd triangular bags to one that extends the full length of the top tube and I'm already bummed that the DT bottle is going from easy access to frustrated yanking.

I am as small as smallbros come, and this isn't a problem even with my tiny-triangled Elephant.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 18:11
mdilthey
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I love my full framebag. I pulled out a first aid kit for someone who crashed on our group ride this past Wednesday. I have first aid, tools, spares, a full-sized pump, a reflective vest, and a light jacket in there and a lot of that stuff is light and bulky, so jersey pockets wouldn't work.

As for bottles, I prefer my bottle mounts on the fork legs and I recently pipe clamped one on my drive-side seatstay since I have no derailleur routing there. It's been great having a third bottle. I can always strap a nalgene below the downtube but the access sucks. All three are easy to get to while riding, drive-side fork leg is the easiest spot on a spencer IMO.

But yeah, on the Pugsley, the full-sized extra-wide extra-big roll-top framebag is the absolute best.

Now, on my Nature Boy, that's where I agree with you guys. I went through all the trouble to have it made and I actually don't like it that much, and I have been using two regular old bottle cages for the past month. Much better suited. The CX spencer is narrower so the usable space is less, and I can't mount bottles anywhere else like on the Pugsley.

26/M/41t N/W

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 18:21
newellbt

akasnowmaaan wrote:
and it's aluminum

for reference, the Shimano SM-BA01 is as well; that which is pictured in the jensen link is a cover

Fri, 05/12/2017 - 18:26
Shortpants
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(Reply to #190)

mdilthey wrote:
I love my full framebag. I pulled out a first aid kit for someone who crashed on our group ride this past Wednesday. I have first aid, tools, spares, a full-sized pump, a reflective vest, and a light jacket in there and a lot of that stuff is light and bulky, so jersey pockets wouldn't work.

As for bottles, I prefer my bottle mounts on the fork legs and I recently pipe clamped one on my drive-side seatstay since I have no derailleur routing there. It's been great having a third bottle. I can always strap a nalgene below the downtube but the access sucks. All three are easy to get to while riding, drive-side fork leg is the easiest spot on a spencer IMO.

But yeah, on the Pugsley, the full-sized extra-wide extra-big roll-top framebag is the absolute best.

Now, on my Nature Boy, that's where I agree with you guys. I went through all the trouble to have it made and I actually don't like it that much, and I have been using two regular old bottle cages for the past month. Much better suited. The CX spencer is narrower so the usable space is less, and I can't mount bottles anywhere else like on the Pugsley.

We give you a lot of shit but you sound like a pretty great guy to ride with. Not just for the first aid kit thing but that's what reminded me.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 01:53
mdilthey
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Hey, thanks man. I'm probably slower than you!

And I didn't think to clarify this but I didn't do field surgery or anything. The guy was riding a 26" FS from ten years ago and the HTA was very old school, and he's a road/tri guy so he got waaay out over the handlebars and did a perfect front flip. I hope when I'm in my 60's I can do a front flip and shake it off. I gave him a band-aid for a little cut on his ankle and he laughed because he couldn't believe I was climbing so well with how much stuff I was carrying on a SS.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 02:24
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #192)

mdilthey wrote:
I love my full framebag. I pulled out a first aid kit for someone who crashed on our group ride this past Wednesday. I have first aid, tools, spares, a full-sized pump, a reflective vest, and a light jacket in there and a lot of that stuff is light and bulky, so jersey pockets wouldn't work.

Gotta back this up too - you are one of the few people that I would never doubt for using a full frame bag.

You tinker with your bikes and ride too much to not know what you're doing.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 03:43
mdilthey
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Is mercury in retrograde or something? You guys like framebags now?!

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 06:56
heavymetal
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I'm on the fence.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 07:29
johnasavoia
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I love my 2fer jandd framebag deal, they're the right size for a lock and some random crap when I'm putzing around town or country. Would buy two more.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 08:01
lbthomps
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(Reply to #196)

johnasavoia wrote:
I love my 2fer jandd framebag deal, they're the right size for a lock and some random crap when I'm putzing around town or country. Would buy two more.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 08:19
jeffro
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(Reply to #197)

akasnowmaaan wrote:
This one is good too, and it's aluminum

Yeah, but try the "tarck drop" free version first. Bottom boss becomes top boss, zip tie for bottom cage hole.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 09:41
mdilthey
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Except the shakes position is not perfect.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 11:00
drwelby
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Boring paint-by-numbers Musasurly

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 11:35
eric_ssucks
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Complete with brokedick objectivist seatpost and elderly Shimano chainset.

Sat, 05/13/2017 - 11:50

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