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Rusty Piton wrote:
It's been 35-50f for like two months here with plenty of bullshit rain. When did Chicago become Seattle?

since China implemented the global hoax

Mon, 02/13/2017 - 09:34
fixed
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the plowed shoulders are intentional. half the reason the northeast has shoulders and many other areas of the country don't is specifically for snow. first plow pass pushes it to the shoulder, second plow pass later in the day when it's less urgent pushes it all the way off the road. so when jimmy in his bmw x5 slides off the road, he doesn't take up a whole lane with his stuck vehicle, it's just half on the shoulder and half in the snow.

Tue, 02/14/2017 - 09:09
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We had our first real rain a few days ago and it reminded me that I wasn't happy with my setup last winter.

First is gloves. I hate gloves because I have long skinny fingers. Should I get XL or XXL Ninja Ice? I usually wear XL in Fox and 661 stretchy gloves which don't have long enough fingers, but the XXL is usually too baggy. I'm not really too concerned with baggy fit on the Ninja Ice, but if the fingers aren't longer in the XXL I'll just get XL.

Next is fenders. I've been kicking around the same 7 or 8 year old pair of Planet Bike fenders and it's time to retire them. They're 45mm wide and fit perfectly on my double cross with 28-30mm tires but now with WTB Exposures they buzz quite a bit. Thinking of getting 50mm SKS and trimming them at the seat stays which are exactly 45mm apart where the fenders pass through. Any tips for trimming chromoplastic fenders? Really just taking off like 2mm on each side so I'm sure it'll be easy enough.

And on to my feet, another big problem. I can't find waterproof shoe covers that fit over my giant feet. Last winter I rode in waxed vans which worked OK, but I want to ride spd pedals this winter, so Im thinking of waterproofing my 510s with mink oil or Sno-Seal as suggested by an outdoorsy friend combined with some waterproof gaiters to keep water from coming in through the laces or getting my socks wet. Sound reasonable? Bonus of waterproofing my 510s is it will make mountain biking this winter term more enjoyable too, I'll probably get some use out of the gaiters on the trails too.

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Sun, 11/12/2017 - 00:06
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re: ninja ice. I have fat hands and not-long fingers. generally an XL in answer or 661. The XL were too tight around my hands. The XXL were ok width but the fingers were too long for me.
It sounds like the XXL would be great for you.

Fenders: trim by hand with a file or dremel. (Tempting to cut them with shears or an exacto but IME it's tough to get a nice curve made and the blade just wants to go straight deeper into the fender.)
If at all possible move any stays or clips or whatever to the outside of the fender.

Feet: Dedicated waterproof shoes. Or waterproof socks inside of whatever shoes. I am dubious of if waterproofing your 510s will work, there's the laces, the tongue area, and the cleat area to worry about and I don't see getting them all sealed. That said, if waxed vans are considered "ok" then maybe sno-sealed 510s will be great. Biwell, Sno-Seal, Nik-wax will all work fine. Warm the shoes in the oven before application and it really works into the nooks and crannies.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sun, 11/12/2017 - 00:28
eric_ssucks
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Or buy some actual waterproof shoes

Sun, 11/12/2017 - 01:38
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #456)

Face wrote:
Next is fenders. I've been kicking around the same 7 or 8 year old pair of Planet Bike fenders and it's time to retire them. They're 45mm wide and fit perfectly on my double cross with 28-30mm tires but now with WTB Exposures they buzz quite a bit. Thinking of getting 50mm SKS and trimming them at the seat stays which are exactly 45mm apart where the fenders pass through. Any tips for trimming chromoplastic fenders? Really just taking off like 2mm on each side so I'm sure it'll be easy enough.

you should be fine just forcing them in between the seatstays

if it turns out to actually be a pinch point, heatgun/hairdyer is better than dremelling for SKS

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Sun, 11/12/2017 - 04:10
Face
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Thanks dudes! XXL ordered.
I'll heat gun the fenders if squeezing them in the stays becomes an issue. Any suggestions on best place to buy them?
I'd like waterproof shoes, but just finding shoes that fit my Cadillac sized feet is hard enough I usually don't get to choose features. I'll keep searching but for now I'll sno-seal them.

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Sun, 11/12/2017 - 10:47
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Good luck with the gloves. I have the same problem and a giant collection of xxl gloves with stubby fingers and fat ass wrists

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Mon, 11/13/2017 - 02:34
Face
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Find any that work?

Also got a pair of XL handup gloves and they're the closest to fitting correctly for regular mtb gloves I've had in a long time.

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Mon, 11/13/2017 - 03:01
Petr5
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Only gloves I can use comfortably are knit, which obviously doesn't cut it in the rain. My current go-to in that situation is sealskinz ultragrips cuz knit-like, but I can't recommend them. The fingers do bottom out, but with the stretch, it's fine. I have 2 gripes. The wrists are so baggy I feel like I should throw on a couple rubberbands and they're too long. They go past halfway on my forearm and I have to take my jacket off to put them on. My wife calls them my prom gloves.

Let me know if you find something haha

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Mon, 11/13/2017 - 04:55
jimmythefly
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Send me your gloves! Serious. My sausage fingers usually leave an annoying amount of flappy extra finger fabric.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 11/13/2017 - 11:59
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #462)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
if it turns out to actually be a pinch point, heatgun/hairdyer is better than dremelling for SKS

Pro tip rite here

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 11/13/2017 - 12:51
Tail Hook Lengthener
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The new Showers Pass Knit Crosspoint gloves seem pretty great. After experimenting with Ninja Ice, I have determined that they will just never fit my hands (sausage fingers like Jimmy), and I'll probably splurge on a pair of these in the next week or so, and then I can write a more definitive opinion.

On the subject of gloves, I've worn holes in basically every fall/winter weight glove I have, so I got a pair of the Defeet DuraGloves ET Wool Comps. They fit perfect, with a lot of stretch so there's not a huge gap between any part of my hand and the gloves, the rubberized grip is great for drops or flat handlebars, and the ET thing works well enough that I can operate my camera while riding, without taking the gloves off. Texting is also easy, but not while in motion (duh). I've ridden three times in pretty substantial rains, with temperatures between 45°-50° F, and while my hands will be pickled by the end of the ride, but they stay warm enough that I don't experience any significant discomfort or numbness.

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Mon, 11/13/2017 - 13:22
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Amazon has ragg wool gloves for $5-8 a pop and the sizing is always imperfect, but they are just awesome for me. No moisture buildup, and plenty warm underneath a rain mitt. I have the mittens, the gloves, the fingerless gloves, and a bunch of merino liner gloves and I just mix and match based on temp/conditions.

Get me into cheap waterproof shoes for super-wide feet. Five Ten? I have a feeling that global warming is going to make this New England winter unusually wet instead of dry/cold and my waterproof socks or snow boots leave a lot to be desired.

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 11/13/2017 - 14:51
Rentable Faxmachine
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Five Ten Freerider EPS handle water better than plain Freeriders, but they're not perfect. If you have low-volume feet order your normal sneaker size. Otherwise, size up by a half to full size.

Also digging the DeFeet DuraGloves.

Mon, 11/13/2017 - 15:09
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Heritage is an equestrian company, but their deep winter gloves are they best-styled glove I've ever had. They make me feel like I have Batman's hands.

They're nicely sculpted, waterproof, and have a tight cuff to keep out wind and snow. They're probably good down to -4C/25F, maybe lower cuz they have the little zip for warmer inserts (I've never tried). Anything lower than that and I usually switch to Giro's 2-fingered gloves.

The gloves come in 10(!) different sizes and they have a handy hand-measuring chart on the product page, but it only accounts for width, not finger length. I'm not certain, but if you go wider, the fingers may naturally go longer?

And at $40 or less, they are incredibly economical for the level of quality they offer.

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Fri, 11/17/2017 - 14:12
Andrew_Squirrel
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Good glove suggestions ITT. Thanks for sharing.

Testing out these things right now. They were only $7 including shipping. They are single layer since I found the double layer in the Ninja Ice to be annoying (inner layer of fingers getting twisted and tight feeling).
Not super impressed but they do, luckily, fit my hand perfect.
Haven't fully drenched them yet but work fine for 40-50 deg F Seattle drizzle weather.

Fri, 11/17/2017 - 14:28
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Fri, 11/17/2017 - 14:33
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I also picked up these Rapha gloves that were on sale. Very happy with them for dry weather in the 50 deg range.
The palm molds to the bar really well and probably the first glove with padded palm that I actually like.

Fri, 11/17/2017 - 14:33
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Added a Soft Goods section to the Tarck Approved database to champion those Heritage gloves.

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Fri, 11/17/2017 - 15:18
Rusty Piton
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I finally made the jump to cheap ATV pogies. It's nice not having to wear heavy glove, but goddamn these things are dorky looking!
Untitled by rudyluciani, on Flickr

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Fri, 11/17/2017 - 15:56
Rentable Faxmachine
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These would be perfect for Eroica or a tweed ride:

Fri, 11/17/2017 - 20:35
Face
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Got my ninja ice gloves in today. Much nicer than I expected for $8. They fit OK, fingers are a bit baggy but I see that as room for liners if I need them. I don't plan on riding in the rain for another week or two so we'll have to wait and see how I like them on the bike.

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Fri, 11/17/2017 - 21:09
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I’m already adjusting to Midwest life. Warmed up to 28 degrees on my ride home and I was annoyed at how hot it felt.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Sun, 12/10/2017 - 13:22
wickedwagon
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I'm in Iowa and i ride without gloves in December. This shit ain't right.

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Sun, 12/10/2017 - 21:18
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"Folks want options!"

Mon, 12/11/2017 - 13:28
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Genuinely wondering if I actually need spike tires. Currently on day six of riding on icy streets on the mostly slick 2” refuse tires and am not feeling any need for more traction.

The only sketchy thing I’ve experienced is the three inch tall ice ridges tires make when psycho Minneapolis drivers careen around turns at high speed. They’re so tall I’m not sure spikes would do anything for those.

Wondering about freeze-thaw cycles as the temp is set to swing 15-20 every day this week. I’m guessing I might experience some sudden black ice or something and crash.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 12/12/2017 - 19:51
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Today, for the first time in like seven winters, I called for a ride home. I was all set to bike, but rain/sleet turned to sleet/sleet, the temperature dropped 10 degrees, the road froze solid, and I watched a snow plow almost slide into another snow plow. I got psyched out and did not ride home.

I had a grant-approved reflective belt on my basket, a safety triangle in the back, a taillight, a 400 lumen headlight, but I just had an awful feeling. Freeze/thaw early in the season when drivers aren’t ready means lots of crashes.

26/M/41t N/W

Tue, 12/12/2017 - 22:16
aerobear
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The title of this thread is really bothering me now that i noticed the misplaced apostrophes.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Tue, 12/12/2017 - 22:51
Blakey
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it's not the # of feet of snow?

Tue, 12/12/2017 - 23:19
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #481)

aerobear wrote:
The title of this thread is really bothering me now that i noticed the misplaced apostrophes.

Nazimod it!

Sneaky Viking wrote:
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Tue, 12/12/2017 - 23:40
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(Reply to #482)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
aerobear wrote:
The title of this thread is really bothering me now that i noticed the misplaced apostrophes.

Nazimod it!

Fifteen to sixteen feet of WHAT?

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 00:55
mdilthey
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(Reply to #483)

eric_ssucks wrote:
Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
aerobear wrote:
The title of this thread is really bothering me now that i noticed the misplaced apostrophes.

Nazimod it!

Fifteen to sixteen feet of WHAT?

Various $8 Amazon gloves

26/M/41t N/W

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 00:58
Perlhammered
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Am in Miami for work. This week has been something of a "cold" front, so before the sun comes up that means its in the mid-high 50s or so. I've been out riding in shorts, ss jersey, and a cap, and the vast majority of other cyclists I've seen out on the roads are decked out in full arctic tundra winter gear. Tights, jacket, vest, shoe covers, gloves, balaclava. What a world...

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 09:40
Rusty Piton
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Yeah, I saw people wearing full on down parkas with fur on the hoods in 65* weather last time I was in Miami.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 09:48
eric_ssucks
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this is a pretty classic SoCal/Central Valley joke too. Acclimatization is a hell of a drug.

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 12:48
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(Reply to #487)

regarding studded tires…I acquired some after spectacularly sliding-out twice in a week on invisible black ice. Scary on an urban commute, and I was fucking up my clothes. They're good insurance in an icy climate.

Five-foot drops at speed on unstable terrain? Yep.

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 13:56
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #488)

emor wrote:
Genuinely wondering if I actually need spike tires. Currently on day six of riding on icy streets on the mostly slick 2” refuse tires and am not feeling any need for more traction.

The only sketchy thing I’ve experienced is the three inch tall ice ridges tires make when psycho Minneapolis drivers careen around turns at high speed. They’re so tall I’m not sure spikes would do anything for those.

Wondering about freeze-thaw cycles as the temp is set to swing 15-20 every day this week. I’m guessing I might experience some sudden black ice or something and crash.

I think with some 2" studded tires you could roll over some ice berms but IME you just have to dismount those most of the time unless somebody else has begun clearing a path

You are right about the freeze-thaw cycle and studs. If things stay cold and "dry", the studs aren't really that big of a deal. It's the combo of freeze-thaw plus night-riding that I think makes them really essential. At some point it will warm up just enough to let this trickle of water cover all the roads and bike paths, and then that freezes overnight into solid sheets of black ice. Again, during daylight hours you can ride somewhat judiciously and be alright, but at night you can't see that shit even with fancy dyno lights.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Wed, 12/13/2017 - 14:57
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(Reply to #489)

eric_ssucks wrote:
Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
aerobear wrote:
The title of this thread is really bothering me now that i noticed the misplaced apostrophes.

Nazimod it!

Fifteen to sixteen feet of WHAT?

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 07:08
Petr5
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lol I always read it as 15-16 degrees

Sneaky Viking wrote:
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Fri, 12/15/2017 - 07:38
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yeah even a little bit of melt-freeze on the road, especially at night, makes the studs quite helpful here. i've had mine on all week. unfortunately i forgot to pump them up this morning so it was a very slow ride. the nokians actually handle better all around with about 45psi which seems a little weird, but it works.

i forgot to check the weather before i left for my ride to work this morning. i was noticing it was quite cold. indeed it was 6 degrees!

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 08:52
aerobear
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it finally got cold here and snowed 1-2 inches (not much at all), but somehow this turned the MUP into an absolute death trap. pretty sure what happened is that it was warm the day before, so the concrete held heat, which melted the bottom of the snow, until they plowed away the 1 inch of snow, then the water turned into a miles-long sheet of black ice. yesterday's commute to work was a bit harrowing. pretty sure there were some casualties. i saw multiple people who just gave up and were walking with their bikes, plus a lot of bike and foot tracks in the grass alongside the path.

luckily today it was back to 60 degrees, cuz wtf colorado. it's still cold in the morning though - 20s-ish. been wearing goggles on my ride in and it's really enhancing my ride. face is so warm and cozy.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 23:09
mdilthey
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Usually it’s like that for a long time in New England, but this December it went directly to near-Zero, which I personally love. No slush, no ice, and I don’t sweat on the ride in.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 02:11
cousinmosquito
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Its gotta be 30 degrees here today. The heatwave continues.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 03:24
emor
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Still been nseasonably warm up here. Mid thirties. Rode around without a warm hat or gloves because it felt so hot.

Looks like we’re headed for sub zero next week; HY/WTH I’ll be on vacation in warm Wisconsin, where it will be a few degrees warmer.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 08:01
Face
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I was going to grumble about my mid 30s mornings freezing my everything off, but, nevermind.

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i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 09:38
iwillbe
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bought my first pair of padded thermal bib tights, so naturally the weather warmed up to the low 60's. It's headed back into the 30's soon, so i'll get to try out the tights and whatever mylar sock sleeves I cobble together.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 10:10
heavymetal
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(Reply to #498)

cousinmosquito wrote:
Its gotta be 30 degrees here today. The heatwave continues.

Come at me bro. Over 40 degrees in western Sydney. The whole town is grumpy from heat-induced poor sleep.

Edit: that's 106 freedom degrees. Probably should just stay outta this thread...

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 18:22
cousinmosquito
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heavymetal wrote:
cousinmosquito wrote:
Its gotta be 30 degrees here today. The heatwave continues.

Come at me bro. Over 40 degrees in western Sydney. The whole town is grumpy from heat-induced poor sleep.

Edit: that's 106 freedom degrees. Probably should just stay outta this thread...

ha ha. Luckily my daughter has left Sydney for the week and is visiting us, but true to form, its gale force wind again (just the norm in Wellington).
Hoping the high temps are back soon ! I couldn't handle 40 degrees. 18 months in WA back in the 80's was enough for me. At least its dry heat there.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 19:22
BabbyMatt
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Super spoiled now in SoCal. Coldest day I've seen so far this winter is coming up with an overnight low of 42 and a high of 64. It suits me though. I'd rather ride in 100f than 40f.

Also I don't know what happened to my cycling gloves, so the other day for an early ride I threw on some $6 harbor freight ones I had for working on the car. They worked brilliantly.

I hate hate hate riding easy when there's a cool wind though. I start to sweat a bit, and then I just feel uncomfortably chilly all ride, but adding a layer just makes me too hot, and it seems like I can never really find equilibrium

Tue, 12/19/2017 - 20:03

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