Babby, It's Cold Outside

716 posts / 0 new
Last post
Rentable Faxmachine
Rentable Faxmachine's picture
(Reply to #301)

wickedwagon wrote:
I've got some Swiftwik and other winter socks and I found some shoes caps that cover the vents at the front I'm going to try. Getting some power grip fat straps to try with flats.

I'm a big fan of Swiftwick's wool socks. Pearl Izumi also has some nice wool models, but they tend to be a little thicker/bulkier.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:28
Tail Hook Lengthener
Tail Hook Lengthener's picture

I just did the same fucking thing.

Posted about in in the Cat 6 thread, but whatever. It was at Doug/emor's favorite little chicane on our local MUP. A totally, 100% unnecessary corner, put in for no observable reason.

Total damage is a pretty gnarly hip bruise, a broken Planet Bike Superflash, and some handlebar tape tearing.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:29
ShartAttack
ShartAttack's picture

That's two tarckers down this morning! For real dudes, it sucks riding studs but it's way better than hurting yourself.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:58
Tail Hook Lengthener
Tail Hook Lengthener's picture
(Reply to #304)

ShartAttack wrote:
That's two tarckers down this morning! For real dudes, it sucks riding studs but it's way better than hurting yourself.

Probably. I could probably get some cheap studded tires for my Fredsled, but honestly there are only a few days a year where it's cold enough to freeze the road and trails around Seattle.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 13:12
Andrew_Squirrel
Andrew_Squirrel's picture

Yeah, I crashed on a wooden pedestrian bridge during my commute last week. Its covered in a thin layer of moss and always freezes before anything else on the route. I think it has less to do with my tires and more to do with being a dumbass and not riding for the given conditions.

mdilthey wrote:
Lael Wilcox set a Tour Divide record in a cotton t-shirt and running shorts. Don't be a corporate shill, kids.

Was she wearing Vasque Arrowheads too?

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 13:46
kmcdon
kmcdon's picture

That's it.

Studded tires go on ladybiek's diamondback today.

Kinda jealous that she CL scored a $120 set of tires for $50 (never mounted) out from under me.....

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 13:51
Andrew_Squirrel
Andrew_Squirrel's picture

#CommuteChat
Also, I feel obligated to mention that the city of Tukwila (near my workplace) is on-point with their trail maintenance lately. They seemed to do a much better job maintaining the trail condition during the fall and winter this year compared to the city of Seattle. It felt like they were removing leaves from the trail on a weekly basis throughout the fall and they recently repaved a few sections of the trail with huge nasty root cracks. The change in weather, as always, drove away the summer crowds so its like having your own private low stress bicycle highway with minimal intersection crossings that are instead replaced with underpasses that swoop below all of the gridlocked auto highways.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 13:59
Todd
Todd's picture

I was real tired this morning and drove. Seems like I got lucky I didnt ride, was too lazy to put on the studs.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 14:05
kmcdon
kmcdon's picture

I think I'm gonna buy just one studded tire, for the front, and leave a knobby on the back.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 14:06
Todd
Todd's picture

Ive always just ran one in the front.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 14:22
fixed
fixed's picture

i went mountain biking on saturday in the 36 degree sleet. it was fine. the trails are still leaf-covered - we've leafblown before but this year decided to leave them down because we have erosion issues. it was all fine until i got to the log roll-down to 2 foot drop set. the roll-down was super icy so i sent that, and then had to recover and send the drop. i landed it but mildly pulled my hamstring in the process. it's fine. and it was super rad.

i bought some of those sidi rain shoes; will report in on success.

i do not recommend studded front knobby rear. i used to do that in dc the one single year it ever snowed there, and it's just such a sketchy feeling. i rode it for weeks and could never get the hang of having ultra grip on the front with the rear sliding all around. this was on a cross bike commuter with a nokian up front and a cross tire rear.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 14:27
kmcdon
kmcdon's picture

I don't wanna pay the money for 2 though :(

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 14:35
Todd
Todd's picture

IME the front one keeps you from the super fast wipeouts, but you do need one in the rear if you are riding hard at all, or riding on large sheets of ice rather than patches.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 15:02
ShartAttack
ShartAttack's picture

I always ran two studded tires in Iowa. I would pretty much agree with Todd that it might not be necessary for most folks. On my commute in Iowa there would be lots of berms of packed snow and ice at intersections that the studded rear was good for. Similarly, if you are riding paths that have packed down and freeze-thawed a few times it is reassuring to get that extra grip. The one time I know having the rear studs saved my ass was when I was riding up this short but steep section of path that takes you back to street level, I could feel the rear slipping on the ice until the next stud would hook up. I usually tried to avoid riding large sheets of ice even on studs. Shartmo if you are going to be riding after dark (i.e. after 5pm) in a place with ice, you really need studs front and rear because even with dyno lights you really don't know what is going to get you shartmo.

and the massive drag of riding studs means you can drink more in your free time as well shartmo

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 16:39
johnasavoia
johnasavoia's picture

Would love to find a rusty old studded for fun but I have a 10 minute commute and cannot justify it. Honestly my route is more slush and snow than ice 95% of the time. Always wanted to try riding on em tho. Anyone got some fucked up ones they wanna sell me for cheap?

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 17:21
mdilthey
mdilthey's picture
(Reply to #316)

8 New England winters later, I still have never used studs. Last winter was my first with a fatbike, previous one was my first with a MTB. I just ride slower, keep my weight balanced straight up and down through turns, and fall a couple of times a season.

I only had one bike in 2014/15 and my girlfriend had an old slick-tired Kona Cinder Cone, and we negotiated a lot of serious ice with those. The fatbike is way better, way safer (she has a Krampus now, too), but it wasn't so bad on skinnies that I'd consider it suicidal.

You do have to ride slower.

26/M/41t N/W

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 17:56
b-roll
b-roll's picture

All about how often you need it. In the Seattle I experienced back in the day, I wouldn't consider studs a good investment. It's not like they go bad sitting around waiting to be needed, but the time when they really are needed seemed pretty short compared to the annoyance of swapping tires and/or grinding out ice-free commutes on them.

Here in Madison, the fatbike is fine so far with studs on the front only. On my skinny tired, trying-not-to-hate-every-day-of-winter bike, I feel like front and rear are completely worth the money. Spend less on the rear if it makes you feel better, but gotta have some steel back there. My take is that the traditional hardcore "just run skinny tires and slice through it all" approach was more feasible before the number of people out on bikes, leaving ruts everywhere, jumped up. I've been told as much by some of the natives at least.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 20:37
mdilthey
mdilthey's picture
(Reply to #318)

b-roll wrote:
My take is that the traditional hardcore "just run skinny tires and slice through it all" approach was more feasible before the number of people out on bikes, leaving ruts everywhere, jumped up. I've been told as much by some of the natives at least.

Actually, yes, totally agree. The worst is when I'm out after dark, when the temperature drops 10 degrees and all the slush freezes in place, ruts and all.

26/M/41t N/W

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 00:37
kmcdon
kmcdon's picture

I'm usually a "just run skinny tires and slice through it all" guy. Tonight was 1st snow in Denver and I got to ride ladybiek's diamondback equipped with studded tires for the first time ever. Holy shit, that thing grips like no other. I ate shit on my touringbiek with paselas (I did slam the front brake on as a test.)

I think I'm gonna get the one tire for the front of my shitbike and decide on a second one later.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 01:06
daedelus
daedelus's picture

I haven't mounted studded tires since moving to NYC. I have a pair of cheap ones made by innova, 700x37 nominal. They're heavy and dirty but I would sell for cost of shipping if anyone is interested.

totallynotsol wrote:
"free love feminist vegan bicyclist"

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 09:42
lukasz
lukasz's picture

if you sell those we're gonna have a winter of ice.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 10:55
Tail Hook Lengthener
Tail Hook Lengthener's picture

Spotted a fellow bike commuter today wearing nothing but gym shorts and a hydration pack.

It's 29° outside.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 12:00
Rusty Piton
Rusty Piton's picture

Maybe he's doing the Wim Hof Method.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 15:47
wickedwagon
wickedwagon's picture
(Reply to #324)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Maybe he's doing the Wim Hof Method.

I heard him on jre and I can't tell if there's bd involved.

Temps have been single digit or lower lately. Doesn't help that Google thinks I'm in Dallas so if I don't put in my city in I get temps in the 40s or higher.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 16:20
joy of vaping
joy of vaping's picture

I've never used studded tires, for 4 years of commuting in NYC and now 1 year in central PA. We have some bad ruts on the gravel MUP (more footprints than bike tracks) but I got by riding a SS cross bike the whole time and just walked if it got bad enough.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 16:34
joy of vaping
joy of vaping's picture
(Reply to #326)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Maybe he's doing the Wim Hof Method.

also, what does tarck think about this? Never head of it before.

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 16:35
mdilthey
mdilthey's picture
(Reply to #327)

joy of tarcking wrote:
Rusty Piton wrote:
Maybe he's doing the Wim Hof Method.

also, what does tarck think about this? Never head of it before.

I sort of did it in 2014. I slept outside every night for almost the entire winter and slowly increased my tolerance for the cold, and got more comfortable with being cold. Coldest night I ever slept out was about -20ºF and I did it in a +20ºF sleeping bag. By the end of the winter I felt way different. I did not need a jacket most of the time, my ears and face stopped getting cold and I ditched my balaclava and goggles, and I just generally felt pretty good.

I didn't know this was a thing hipsters/baby boomers do... maybe I'll do it again.

You definitely adjust to cold. Your body is real good at that. Most of the people in this thread are probably already more adjusted than people driving to work.

26/M/41t N/W

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 16:53
wickedwagon
wickedwagon's picture

The only benefit of smoking right now is spending more time outside to acclimate.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Wed, 12/07/2016 - 19:05
johnasavoia
johnasavoia's picture

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/schwalbe-winter-spike-road-tyre-k-guard/rp-prod118113

Looks like just 26x1.75 in stock but cheap enough to snag one for fun.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 07:46
Shortpants
Shortpants's picture

Is this where I complain that it got down below 50 yesterday? I almost had to find my gloves.

To be honest I kind of miss the whole gearing up for winter thing. Figuring out which strategy to approach 8 hours on a bike in 33 degree rain is shitty but fun. Do I want to be warm or dry, because both aint gonna last all day.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 11:04
kmcdon
kmcdon's picture

it was -6F on my commute to work today.

I felt fine though.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 11:06
wickedwagon
wickedwagon's picture

On short rides in single digits, toe caps and Swiftwik wool socks in normal shoes works really well. Haven't tried it for longer rides, but for getting around town my feet stay warm.

I've got these

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 14:28
Tail Hook Lengthener
Tail Hook Lengthener's picture

I am not a particularly cold person, but I ALWAYS have cold toes. I've been using these for the past few winters, but they might be at death's door.

They are fleece-lined, and are by far the warmest booty I've seen or used.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 14:49
that guy
that guy's picture
(Reply to #334)

Wintage Townie wrote:
I am not a particularly cold person, but I ALWAYS have cold toes. I've been using these for the past few winters, but they might be at death's door.

They are fleece-lined, and are by far the warmest booty I've seen or used.

+1
These are great

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 15:45
fixed
fixed's picture
(Reply to #335)

wickedwagon wrote:
On short rides in single digits, toe caps and Swiftwik wool socks in normal shoes works really well. Haven't tried it for longer rides, but for getting around town my feet stay warm.

I've got these

this is single digit...fahrenheit? this would NEVER work for me. my toe cover minimum temp is like high 20s F.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 17:04
Falkor
Falkor's picture

I have a pair of the fleece-lined shoe covers sold under various brand names that I purchased from amozan for ~$15. Wasn't expecting much from 'em but they held up through last winter and still going strong. Not completely waterproof but water resistant (and planning to try a nikwax-type waterproofer to improve) and warm enough for my 5-mile commute. For longer rides in the cold I like to put a chemical hand warmer between my shoe and the shoe cover right over my toes.

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 17:52
wickedwagon
wickedwagon's picture
(Reply to #337)

fix wrote:
wickedwagon wrote:
On short rides in single digits, toe caps and Swiftwik wool socks in normal shoes works really well. Haven't tried it for longer rides, but for getting around town my feet stay warm.

I've got these

this is single digit...fahrenheit? this would NEVER work for me. my toe cover minimum temp is like high 20s F.

I've only used them for 10-15 minute rides. Half hour or more might be a different story.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 18:14
euclid
euclid's picture

Dude that's not even a tarck century

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 18:43
mdilthey
mdilthey's picture
(Reply to #339)

wickedwagon wrote:
fix wrote:
wickedwagon wrote:
On short rides in single digits, toe caps and Swiftwik wool socks in normal shoes works really well. Haven't tried it for longer rides, but for getting around town my feet stay warm.

I've got these

this is single digit...fahrenheit? this would NEVER work for me. my toe cover minimum temp is like high 20s F.

I've only used them for 10-15 minute rides. Half hour or more might be a different story.

I've used these on longer rides around the same temp, I don't suggest it.

26/M/41t N/W

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 19:38
wickedwagon
wickedwagon's picture
(Reply to #340)

euclid wrote:
Dude that's not even a tarck century

That seems to mostly what I've been doing lately. I have some pearl shoe covers from somewhere for longer rides.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 12/08/2016 - 20:31
drwelby
drwelby's picture

Any tarcksperience with "winter" helmets? Those earmuffs are looking nice right now in Colorad0°.

Naturally, this bike is partially tarck's fault.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 00:44
eric_ssucks
eric_ssucks's picture

Whoops. Should've checked the heating oil before the snow fell. Womp womp. Hope the hill melts tonight.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 00:56
Rentable Faxmachine
Rentable Faxmachine's picture
(Reply to #343)

drwelby wrote:
Any tarcksperience with "winter" helmets? Those earmuffs are looking nice right now in Colorad0°.

I've got a Nutcase helmet and ear flaps coming. Been wearing normal MTB-style helmets with various head coverings and hoping the Nutcase will be warmer.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 09:52
Rentable Faxmachine
Rentable Faxmachine's picture

The 5.10 Freerider EPS shoes are giving me all of it. Maybe not the best looking shoes, but comfy down to the high teens with mid-weight wool socks. Flat pedals only, though.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 09:55
aerobear
aerobear's picture

I went mtbing in my 510 freeride canvas shoes in the snow last saturday (wasn't super cold, maybe 30ish) with a medium wool sock. Feet were toasty, which was a good contrast to the last time I wore them in the summer when my feet were on fire hot.

Came down with a sore throat/hack this week, which unfortunately has meant that i couldn't htfu for the super cold snowy commutes this week like I had planned to.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 10:06
Rentable Faxmachine
Rentable Faxmachine's picture
(Reply to #346)

aerobear wrote:
I went mtbing in my 510 freeride canvas shoes in the snow last saturday (wasn't super cold, maybe 30ish) with a medium wool sock. Feet were toasty, which was a good contrast to the last time I wore them in the summer when my feet were on fire hot.

Came down with a sore throat/hack this week, which unfortunately has meant that i couldn't htfu for the super cold snowy commutes this week like I had planned to.

The canvas/leather Freeriders definitely run warm, and the EPS models are even warmer due to the additional insulation and lack of vents in the forefoot.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 10:15
mdilthey
mdilthey's picture

All the local guys are wearing those 5.10's, I wish I didn't already own fatbiking snowboots so I could justify them. They seem like the real deal.

26/M/41t N/W

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 10:28
Lowrey'sOrgan
Lowrey'sOrgan's picture

I'm not riding this winter
but I guess now is the appropriate time to recommend my favorite things again
If you need some extreme gear, Trash Bags (trigger warning: website is a blast from the sw8 fixxy past) makes the serious stuff
MUSA
by a guy who has ridden through some cold winters himself
hat, mask, and mittens got me through two Wisconsin winters plenty toasty
do not wear above 10*F

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 10:50
joy of vaping
joy of vaping's picture

woah they make some extra large bags

this is like that bicyclepube's drawing of yummygooey's bike with the massive rando bag:

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 11:14
Rusty Piton
Rusty Piton's picture

Hey look! It's Chicago!

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Fri, 12/09/2016 - 12:36

Pages