Babby, It's Cold Outside

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Petr5
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Got these this year. Wife calls em my prom gloves, but my monkey arms approve. My freakishly long fingers mean the wrists are baggy, but that's my life.

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"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 10:20
Rentable Faxmachine
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Still trying to find gloves that are good below 25f but aren't so bulky that you can't brake/shift. Might have to resort to some claw-like jawns.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 10:51
ShartAttack
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Closest I ever came was bar mitts plus some cheapo ski gloves from Costco. Biggest problem with those gloves is that they didn't like shiny drop bar levers so I couldn't ride road bikes with them.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 11:05
iwillbe
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I'm getting into my first winter in Richmond, I'm not sure whether I need to unpack my bag of rain gear from when I lived in the PNW or my ICE HELL gear from living around the Great Lakes. Like, am I going to be damp and chilly, or am I going to have to strategize how to keep my eyelashes from freezing together and welding my eyes shut? Time will tell.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 11:32
kmcdon
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get me into spd boots that don't cost $500

edit: or maybe I'll just finally buy decent platforms

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 11:47
euclid
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yeah me too. shoe covers don't cut it below ~25 or so.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 11:50
Rentable Faxmachine
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Five Ten Freerider EPS shoes, wool socks, and platform pedals work well down to about 20f.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 12:01
wickedwagon
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Supposed to be 9* tomorrow. Fuck. Hopefully the will at least be snow.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 12:02
Petr5
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Hmm, I've been happy with shoe covers and duct tape over the sole vent holes down to about 5*f. Maybe different shoe covers? I get those ones that look like scuba suit material. Pretty sure those gloves I posted above will be fine into the teens too. They're waterproof and a reviewer wrote about how he liked to ski in them because of the dexterity they offered compared to ski gloves. They feel like what I was expecting out of the ninja ice gloves, but didn't get.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 14:49
that guy
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Bring it on!!!!!
So much better than sweating while brushing my teeth.

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 14:58
Guy
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(Reply to #261)

kmcdon wrote:
get me into spd boots that don't cost $500

This will be my second season in Lake 303s. They're a bit clunky but you don't notice it once you start pedaling. Insulation is very decent when worn with thick wool socks. I've ridden down to 5f without numb toes. They're waterproof to a certain extent, but a constant spray of downtube water will eventually soak through.

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
Still trying to find gloves that are good below 25f but aren't so bulky that you can't brake/shift. Might have to resort to some claw-like jawns.

This is my struggle every winter. Just did six hours at 30-40f in Manzella Ranch Hands and wasn't too happy. Decent water resistance but wind gets right into them.

It might be a terrible idea, but every long cold wet winter ride in the mountains makes me want to kludge some of this together to heat handlebars underneath tape.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 16:09
wickedwagon
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I did double socks in normal SPD shoes and toes are almost numb and it was only low 20s. I had higher hopes.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 02:42
Petr5
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Same reason they say you shouldn't double up on ski socks. Staying warm requires circulation. Jamming more fabric in there hampers that.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 04:34
johnasavoia
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I bought cheap realtree atv barmitts and its been the best choice I've ever made.

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 07:07
Falkor
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(Reply to #265)

Petr5 wrote:
Same reason they say you shouldn't double up on ski socks. Staying warm requires circulation. Jamming more fabric in there hampers that.

+1

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 17:43
aerobear
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my toes go numb easy, but it doesn't bother me much. my fingers on the other hand.. so painful. cold times at comin'. highs in the teens-20s next week. will be a test to my bike commutering.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 19:44
mdilthey
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(Reply to #267)

Todd wrote:
el nino bro, were getting your precipitation dawg.

I work as a climate scientist. The concensus is, winter is sooooo fucked. The whole Northeastern US is becoming North Carolina. Canada is going to be the only place getting ski weather soon, like ten years from now. Sell your fender stock, boys.

26/M/41t N/W

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 20:44
kmcdon
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(Reply to #268)

Petr5 wrote:
Same reason they say you shouldn't double up on ski socks. Staying warm requires circulation. Jamming more fabric in there hampers that.

I have pretty good luck with very lightweight wool socks under heavyweight socks.

Still not good enough for +5F though.

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 20:51
Todd
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(Reply to #269)

mdilthey wrote:
Todd wrote:
el nino bro, were getting your precipitation dawg.

I work as a climate scientist. The concensus is, winter is sooooo fucked. The whole Northeastern US is becoming North Carolina. Canada is going to be the only place getting ski weather soon, like ten years from now. Sell your fender stock, boys.

that was last year tho dude. Isn't there a mild la nina?
Also this is about the west coast.

also also, whats up with velotoez?
Anyone use them? Will they last more than a few rides?

Fri, 12/02/2016 - 20:54
Goddamnit Gunther
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(Reply to #270)

Petr5 wrote:
Got these this year. Wife calls em my prom gloves, but my monkey arms approve. My freakishly long fingers mean the wrists are baggy, but that's my life.

What are these?

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Sat, 12/03/2016 - 19:50
Petr5
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SealSkinz Black Ultra Grip Gauntlet Gloves

Sneaky Viking wrote:
"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Sat, 12/03/2016 - 20:23
Goddamnit Gunther
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Hell yea did you find them locally or get em online? I'd like to be able to fondle a glove before spending that kind of money

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Sat, 12/03/2016 - 20:57
mdilthey
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(Reply to #273)

Currently all about Ragg Wool. On fleabay you can pick up old Ragg Wool sweaters for less than $20, I have a couple of good ones. For gloves and hats, they cost like $10 a pop. I have a set of gloves and a set of mittens. I'm wearing all wool all the time now, unless it's raining and then the shell comes out.

If I layer a pair of Ragg Wool gloves over a pair of regular gloves or bike gloves, I'm good to 20ºF.

Cheap N' Durable

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 12/03/2016 - 21:39
Petr5
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(Reply to #274)

Goddamnit Gunther wrote:
Hell yea did you find them locally or get em online? I'd like to be able to fondle a glove before spending that kind of money

Chain Reaction. They feel like neoprene with a knit glove stretched over. And maybe some sort of membrane in-between.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 07:16
chazzwazzer
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(Reply to #275)

Todd wrote:
also also, whats up with velotoez?
Anyone use them? Will they last more than a few rides?

- Yes
- Perhaps. They work but they're weird in that they need specific care to work, like drying them (very) thoroughly so they don't stick to themselves and tear when you try to put them on again. Really using baby powder is what you need. They're not quite cheap enough for me to toss as frequently as I think you'd need to. They get pretty warm since they don't breathe at all. They lose color and fade quickly. Mine are toast from cuts while walking around and also drying shut.
- I'd really like to try their helmet cover.

Bars down, levers up, that's the way tarck likes to 'sup...

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 13:47
Petr5
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(Reply to #276)

Petr5 wrote:
Got these this year. Wife calls em my prom gloves, but my monkey arms approve. My freakishly long fingers mean the wrists are baggy, but that's my life.

And my search for winter gloves continues. Not wind- (and likely water) proof enough. Hands went numb on a 15 minute descent in 0-2*C.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
"Your bike sucks and we have a team of biased experts to pseudo-scientifically test that hypothesis, all in blue shirts."

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 18:00
mdilthey
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I used to climb Mt. Greylock in western Mass about three times a week, all winter, until it became an ice sheet in February. 9 miles up so you can get nice and sweaty, 9 miles down so you can get hypothermia. I still have no feeling in my ears or in three of my toes and this was two years ago.

The only thing that really worked for my hands was to tape two hand warmers to the insides of my wrists. They heated the bloodflow to my fingers. I would love to see a pair of gloves with a pocket right there for this exact purpose, but duct tape works fine.

26/M/41t N/W

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 18:22
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #278)

mdilthey wrote:
I used to climb Mt. Greylock in western Mass about three times a week, all winter, until it became an ice sheet in February. 9 miles up so you can get nice and sweaty, 9 miles down so you can get hypothermia. I still have no feeling in my ears or in three of my toes and this was two years ago.

The only thing that really worked for my hands was to tape two hand warmers to the insides of my wrists. They heated the bloodflow to my fingers. I would love to see a pair of gloves with a pocket right there for this exact purpose, but duct tape works fine.

Were you using two handwarmers per-arm? I tried one (bulk purchase from Costco), but didn't feel like they did much.

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 19:35
The RTS
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I use the elastic tops off of some old wool socks as wrist covers and tuck the heatpacks in them.

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 19:53
mdilthey
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(Reply to #280)

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
mdilthey wrote:
I used to climb Mt. Greylock in western Mass about three times a week, all winter, until it became an ice sheet in February. 9 miles up so you can get nice and sweaty, 9 miles down so you can get hypothermia. I still have no feeling in my ears or in three of my toes and this was two years ago.

The only thing that really worked for my hands was to tape two hand warmers to the insides of my wrists. They heated the bloodflow to my fingers. I would love to see a pair of gloves with a pocket right there for this exact purpose, but duct tape works fine.

Were you using two handwarmers per-arm? I tried one (bulk purchase from Costco), but didn't feel like they did much.

You have to agitate them a lot when you first get them started. If you put them under the balls of your feet, the chemical reaction will accelerate enough to burn holes through your socks in just a few miles.

I agitated them a lot and taped one each to my wrists before I got too cold at the summit, and then slid my mitts and a big, thick jacket on and started descending.

26/M/41t N/W

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 20:44
Todd
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Got my first case screaming barfies today.
It was so nice in Seattle, and I under dressed for the ride, got super wet on slushy trails and trees melting on us, then it started snowing again.
Was about 36deg.
I think my ninja ice have lost some of their stuff as well.
Was dancing around the parking lot at Tiger MTN making all kinds of weird noises.
This shit happens to me way to often....

Sun, 12/04/2016 - 23:55
ShartAttack
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48F and raining in Texas today. Wore the Gore Tex Shimano boots that Mr. Gravelbike basically gave to me a couple years ago. Feet were actually still a little chilly when I got to work, I was surprised. Also only wore some softshell-type gloves and got the red-hand-swells when I took them off, so I guess I must have undergloved it a bit.

Texas has broken me folks. 17 months and I can no longer handle even chilly weather.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 11:17
mdilthey
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(Reply to #283)

28ºF and snowing in Western Mass. Right on time - we get the usual freak snowstorm in October, then nothing for two months.

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:07
Rentable Faxmachine
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Here's another option for folks running flat/platform pedals:

http://www.vans.com/shop/mte-designed-for-the-elements

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:12
Wilhelm
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(Reply to #285)

mdilthey wrote:
28ºF and snowing in Western Mass. Right on time - we get the usual freak snowstorm in October, then nothing for two months.

Where in WMass are you? I grew up just over the border in NY, but spent a ton of time in the Great Barrington area. Moved to Ashley Falls my senior year and graduated from Mount Everett.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:26
Wilhelm
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(Reply to #286)

wickedwagon wrote:
I did double socks in normal SPD shoes and toes are almost numb and it was only low 20s. I had higher hopes.

Double socks are double trouble, especially in snug footwear like cycling shoes, ski/snowboard boots, etc. The pressure on your foot from the extra material constricts all of your capillaries are restricts blood flow. Get a good pair of wool blend socks (smartwool makes the best, atmo) and some neoprene booties.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:29
liquify
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Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:33
mdilthey
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(Reply to #288)

Wilhelm wrote:
wickedwagon wrote:
I did double socks in normal SPD shoes and toes are almost numb and it was only low 20s. I had higher hopes.

Double socks are double trouble, especially in snug footwear like cycling shoes, ski/snowboard boots, etc. The pressure on your foot from the extra material constricts all of your capillaries are restricts blood flow. Get a good pair of wool blend socks (smartwool makes the best, atmo) and some neoprene booties.

I'm in Amherst!

I like Fox River more than Smartwool. Warmer, cheaper, more durable, more weight options. The Steel Toe Boot sock is the tits.

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:38
Wilhelm
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^^^
Amhest is cool. I did a few HS Band Geek things at UMass. Need to get back that way soon...

I'm not familiar with Fox River. Will try

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 12:54
bikes
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Still got about 3 months till I can start riding a bike again [currently 1 month post hip surgery], but last year i used a pair of burton snowboarding mitts with trigger fingers and they were pretty good for riding down to ~15F temps. All the bike-specific gear is really overpriced tbh.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 14:24
aerobear
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(Reply to #291)

Todd wrote:
Got my first case screaming barfies today.
It was so nice in Seattle, and I under dressed for the ride, got super wet on slushy trails and trees melting on us, then it started snowing again.
Was about 36deg.
I think my ninja ice have lost some of their stuff as well.
Was dancing around the parking lot at Tiger MTN making all kinds of weird noises.
This shit happens to me way to often....

was 37 and cloudy last tuesday and i rode, hit a long descent (and probably 10 deg colder up in the canyon where i was descending from), still felt OK, then got a flat at the bottom. by the time my flat was fixed, i was suffering.
thankfully i only had about 5 miles till i was done with my ride.

but yeah that cold shivery making weird noises dance.. i can relate to that really well. so many super cold wet PNW rides had me doing that move.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 15:03
mdilthey
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(Reply to #292)

bikes wrote:
All the bike-specific gear is really overpriced tbh.

Universally true. My Vasque Arrowheads were $75 on sale, I think they're warmer and more waterproof than $400 winter mountain biking boots. All my winter gear is specialized for hiking/backpacking/camping. Even my tights are ski tights. If it doesn't have a chamois, it's not a cycling piece.

Lael Wilcox set a Tour Divide record in a cotton t-shirt and running shorts. Don't be a corporate shill, kids.

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 19:47
Todd
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(Reply to #293)

damn... no half sizes and no 44.... would have done in a heartbeat.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 19:50
Larry Winget
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I feel a perverse sense of accomplishment when I get the dressing for the weather thing right. Froze my ass off coming down the first hill, but once I got going it was fine. I love the shit out of my Ibex base layer. So do the moths, unfortunately.

The earflap cap was probably a little much, but it fits great under the new helmet.

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 19:59
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #295)

mdilthey wrote:
Don't be a corporate shill, kids.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 22:02
wickedwagon
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I've got some Swiftwik and other winter socks and I found some shoes caps that cover the vents at the front I'm going to try. Getting some power grip fat straps to try with flats.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 22:20
b-roll
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I've tried everything from BarMitts to battery powered gloves, and Moose Mitts finally solved my cold finger problems after moving from ATL to Madison, WI.

The 45N flat bar giant sleeping bag jobbies are probably warmer--I haven't tried those.

The drop bar Moose Mitts look kind of stupid in the photos but they have worked out really well for me. I still need hand warmer packets for rides over 30 minutes below 15F, but I'm still so much happier than I have been with everything else. Starting to accept my cold weather limitations, which means 2 hours in Wisconsin winter is about all I can take without a break. smiley

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 22:30
jeffro
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(Reply to #298)

Larry Winget wrote:
I feel a perverse sense of accomplishment when I get the dressing for the weather thing right. Froze my ass off coming down the first hill, but once I got going it was fine. I love the shit out of my Ibex base layer. So do the moths, unfortunately.

The earflap cap was probably a little much, but it fits great under the new helmet.

It took keeping a clothing diary for a winter to crack the code. I get stoked about nailing clothing choice.

Mon, 12/05/2016 - 23:57
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Tue, 12/06/2016 - 00:49
Falkor
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Took a spill on some ice this morning, oof!

Hip'll be sore for a few days but I'll be fine. Bike is making a new knocking noise somewhere on the back end which I'll have to investigate. Somehow one of my front brake pads got knocked out of alignment such that it was 90 degrees from the correct orientation with one edge resting on the tire. Amazingly I didn't notice until I got to work because the only indication was a slight rubbing sound. Even more surprising was that I didn't notice it slowing me down much yet the brakes still worked. Glad the tire didn't explode or something.

Tue, 12/06/2016 - 12:19

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