Babby, It's Cold Outside

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Larry Winget
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(Reply to #201)

emor wrote:
Re: glasses. I look over them when starting out from a stop light. Then, after about 200 feet, I push them back up.

Haha. Yep.

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Fri, 01/08/2016 - 01:06
tamaso
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(Reply to #202)

blackholelectron wrote:
I'm also in needing-winter-gloves cru, thanks to Reynaud's causing super painful numbness whenever it gets below like 40

Are the Ninja Ice jawnz decently windproof? we have pretty dry cold around here, rain/wetness isn't an issue, it's just the damned bitter cold that numbs my fingers out completely. If those aren't my jam, any recommendations in windproof-way?

I have the Ninja Ice full-dip hi viz. IMO they work well in the low 30s, maybe high 20s, but not much colder. They seem pretty windproof for me. They make my hands sweat in the 40s and I use really minimal Castellis then, but I run warmer than some so ymmv. They are a cheap option so can't hurt to try. I imagine good xc gloves would be great as well, since they are purpose built for this kinda thing.

Fri, 01/08/2016 - 08:34
Rusty Piton
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-1f this morning. First legitimately cold commute of the season.
I definitely dressed for the first mile and turned into a sweat monter by the time I got to the office.
My water bottle froze solid.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Mon, 01/11/2016 - 10:18
spaghetti
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a person i live with who likes to clean by pushing shit under shit or in shit moved my balaclava so I bussed it today. two bus juggle to get 3.5 miles is far more miserable than not riding with a balaclava in -1*. regrets aplenty this morning.

Mon, 01/11/2016 - 13:53
drwelby
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Did some glove testing today:

L-R: Bontrager RXL, Radians RWG800, Ninja Ice

Temperature was 28 when I left and 21 when I got home, riding a MTB on pavement and snow (both packed and loose).

As reported the Ninja Ice aren't really up to subfreeing temperatures but I found they at least kept my hands a uniform temperature with no cold spots. The rubbery fingers are a little weird when they rub together. But pretty amazing for a $7 glove.

The Radwear RWG800 Hi-Viz is certainly hi-viz with the reflective knuckle patch. It has heavy insulation and should be warm but it didn't do any better than the Ninja Ice. They're only $10, and the dense insulation does do a good job of keeping cold from coming through the palm of your hand. I was hoping that the rubber palm material that extends over the thumb and forefinger would help keep my thumb warm, but the cheapish construction means there's cold spots at the tips of the fingers. I also had a cold spot on the back of my hand - either the high-viz material isn't as windproof or I was getting cold under the cuff. Might not be a bad commuting glove if you're not prone to cold hands. I think there's $10 worth of glove there, it's just that they're not the miracle the NInja Ice are.

The Bontrager RXL Softshell Split Finger doesn't feel like it has much insulation, but these are the warmest gloves I've ever used. Worth the $70 price tag if your hands are always cold. I've been using Toko XC ski mittens and these are better.

Mon, 01/11/2016 - 19:59
Andrew_Squirrel
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Now that Ninja ice have broken-in a bit I've noticed that the insulation has become compressed where they make contact on the bar.
I haven't tried to wash them yet but wondering if that will destroy them or poof up the insulation?

Also getting really annoyed with the liners separating from the outer part.

One friend has had really bad stink-glove with these but I've had great luck with them staying fairly neutral. I usually pop them on the boot-dryer every night so perhaps that is the secret.

Mon, 01/11/2016 - 21:07
drwelby
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Coloradbrethern and sistren:

Winter Ralleye #3: Two Days of Cold Toes Jan 23/24

Meet at noon at the Swing Station in Laporte. Ride bikes to Ansel Watrous Campground in the Poudre Canyon. Enjoy in merriments and reckless activities. Ride back to the Swing Station or Fort Collins the next day, with possible extracurricular trail riding on the way back.

Mon, 01/11/2016 - 23:45
Rusty Piton
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Is it possible for the oil in my hydro dick lines to freeze or something?
I've been getting some rotor rub and the lever pull has seemed shorter since the bike spent a night in my sub-zero garage.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 15:26
Goddamnit Gunther
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You should be able to find out what type of oil is in them and get the boiling/freezing temps

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 15:36
Rentable Faxmachine
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Mineral oil-based systems tend to stiffen up in really cold temps.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 15:37
joy of vaping
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Slid out on some black ice tonight and went down hard -- gonna have a big ol bruise on my elbow, and my neck is already sore from hitting my head, with hamlet luckily.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 21:46
Goddamnit Gunther
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Fuuuucckkk ice wrecks are always soooo painful

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 22:24
joy of vaping
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yeah i'll run into trees, or slide out overcooking turns on trails, but this ice shit man. split second chilin on bike then BAM ON THE GROUND

it was on completely flat, smooth pavement too!

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 22:33
aerobear
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(Reply to #214)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Is it possible for the oil in my hydro dick lines to freeze or something?
I've been getting some rotor rub and the lever pull has seemed shorter since the bike spent a night in my sub-zero garage.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/01/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/technical-faq-disc-brakes-cold-weather_358172

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Wed, 01/13/2016 - 22:54
Goddamnit Gunther
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(Reply to #215)

joy of tarcking wrote:
yeah i'll run into trees, or slide out overcooking turns on trails, but this ice shit man. split second chilin on bike then BAM ON THE GROUND

it was on completely flat, smooth pavement too!

I had one where I rolled off the sidewalk into the road in front of my house and the bike just fucking disappeared. Swear there wasn't a single point on the left side of my body that didn't hurt. Wasn't wearing a helmet but didn't hit my head thank fug

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 23:31
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #216)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Is it possible for the oil in my hydro dick lines to freeze or something?

nope, but the cylinders can get sluggish

mechanical calipers can sure as fuck freeze solid tho if it's warm enough for slush

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Wed, 01/13/2016 - 23:44
liquify
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(Reply to #217)

joy of tarcking wrote:
it was on completely flat, smooth pavement too!

icecrash hugs. Usually they are good about cleaning up the streets, but I could see some around here there were just iced over after the 1" of snow.
I did a black ice crash 7 years back and cracked my laptop screen. Less effective switch from 15" to 12" powerbook there.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 07:53
VT regularbike
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(Reply to #218)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Now that Ninja ice have broken-in a bit I've noticed that the insulation has become compressed where they make contact on the bar.
I haven't tried to wash them yet but wondering if that will destroy them or poof up the insulation?

Also getting really annoyed with the liners separating from the outer part.

One friend has had really bad stink-glove with these but I've had great luck with them staying fairly neutral. I usually pop them on the boot-dryer every night so perhaps that is the secret.

I throw mine in the wash all the time. I've never noticed the insulation pack down so maybe it helps.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 07:57
johnasavoia
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There's enough salt on the ground to leave me coughing for a few minutes after I get to work each day, but it finally feels like winter. Solidly in the mid/upper 20s. Shorts n tights, ankle high waterproof shoe covers over my vans and a hoodie and jacket and I'm not exactly warm but I'm comfortable enough for my short commute.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 08:38
b-roll
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(Reply to #220)

Goddamnit Gunther wrote:
Fuuuucckkk ice wrecks are always soooo painful

Cherished memory of a not painful crash in an ice storm in Atlanta a few years back on one of the rare bike paths of the time. Bike came out from under me on a negligible turn. Was sliding along on my chest wondering when I would ever stop. Bike glided peacefully past me on the left, stopped a few yards after I did. Good times.

Now living in WI, seems like a fanciful foreshadowing of future terrain.

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Mon, 01/18/2016 - 23:42
lukasz
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Listen bros: for cold but not ridiculous MInnesota winter weather you can't beat XC ski lobster gloves. Yoko, Craft, Swix, etc....

Tue, 01/19/2016 - 10:32
jamey
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Rode into work this morning without needing gloves. That's not right.

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Tue, 01/19/2016 - 18:59
derrayyyvid
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I bought this on a whim a few months ago and it's great, albeit goofy looking. Blaclava when you need it, bandana-esque when you don't, layers well over thermal and under jeans jacket.

The worst couple days of this season's winter so far are behind us here, so far the hands & the cellphone battery are the weakpoint.

Tue, 01/19/2016 - 19:51
Cy Trivialities
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Anybody have experience with goggles over your glasses?

i've been getting very teary eyes lately with just my regular glasses in the cold.

Wed, 01/20/2016 - 17:34
lukasz
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Left my favorite damn necktube at a club in London and now I can't find it for sale anywhere. I decided it wasn't worth the effort to go back and see if it is in lost and found. Sad days.


RIP

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 11:26
joy of vaping
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Replace with a merino buff.

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 13:37
Rentable Faxmachine
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Wore these Bonty gloves a couple of times at temps in the low/mid-20s. Decent dexterity, good warmth, and not overly bulky.

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/apparel/cycling-apparel/cycling-gloves/bontrager-rxl-softshell-glove/p/11354

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 13:45
Al Fred Odd
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Fri, 01/22/2016 - 14:42
turpencat
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you aren't rando

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 15:37
buffoon
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(Reply to #230)

turpencat wrote:
you aren't rando

I find this hard to believe

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 17:38
johnasavoia
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lmao

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 17:48
Rusty Piton
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Oh man, the mask is slipping!

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Fri, 01/22/2016 - 20:56
bikes
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I just moved to the midwest from California and am wondering what you guys are doing shoe-wise/feet-wise to keep your toes warm? I rode in ~20F temperatures today and my toes started freezing ~30 minutes in. I was wearing thick wool socks, giro empire road shoes, and thick neoprene full shoe covers. I tried putting grocery bags around my socks on the way home and it didn't help much. Do I need something like Lake MX145 boots for sub-freezing temperature riding?

edit: Or should I just wear my sorel snow boots and toss on platform pedals?

Sat, 01/23/2016 - 11:21
imoscardotcom
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thermal shoe covers? My gores have been awesome

Sat, 01/23/2016 - 13:45
drwelby
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I went from Cali to the midwest a couple of years ago and ended up in the same boat. I had thick socks, thick PI overboots, and my toes still froze. Last spring I bought some winter boots on clearance (Mavic Drifters) and this year I'm kicking myself for not buying them the minute I crossed the Divide.

One thing that might make a big part of the warmth difference is that one typically buys winter boots a size larger so that you can run thick socks and not compress their insulation or the blood vessels in your foot. So if you can't drop the money on a set a of boots, it might be worth trying to find a pair of road shoes a size bigger on eBay and adding a layer of foam or cardboard under the insole. Ideally these shoes would have low profile velcro or lacing so it's easy to pull your overshoes on and off.

One of the best things about winter boots is that when you get home, cold and tired, they're easy to take off. I hated wrestling with my overboots and the ratchet buckles on my shoes.

Sat, 01/23/2016 - 13:55
joy of vaping
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(Reply to #236)

bikes wrote:
Or should I just wear my sorel snow boots and toss on platform pedals?

This is what I do because I can't afford winter bike-only shoes

Sat, 01/23/2016 - 13:59
Goddamnit Gunther
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(Reply to #237)

joy of tarcking wrote:
bikes wrote:
Or should I just wear my sorel snow boots and toss on platform pedals?

This is what I do because I can't afford winter bike-only shoes

Good way to go for the poor. I just hate how far away the pedals feel with boot soles

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Sat, 01/23/2016 - 14:36
lukasz
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(Reply to #238)

joy of tarcking wrote:
Replace with a merino buff.

That is merino

Sun, 01/24/2016 - 21:07
spaghetti
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just wear goddamn snowboots with goddamn platforms new guy
where in the midwest are you

Sun, 01/24/2016 - 21:35
joy of vaping
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(Reply to #240)

lukasz wrote:
joy of tarcking wrote:
Replace with a merino buff.

That is merino

What ever happened to the tarck necktube though??

Sun, 01/24/2016 - 21:47
eric_ssucks
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I think it got lost when rando moved to england.

Mon, 01/25/2016 - 14:57
lukasz
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rando moved to england? wtf

Mon, 01/25/2016 - 16:10
eric_ssucks
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The new guy, alfred dodd, has old rando-worthy word salad skills. New rando has been making an effort to be readable.

Mon, 01/25/2016 - 17:48
Rentable Faxmachine
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Dog park poop bags make excellent emergency sock covers.

Mon, 01/25/2016 - 20:24
johnasavoia
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Post that in bicycle secrets

Tue, 01/26/2016 - 08:15
Andrew_Squirrel
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We rented some fat bikes on the east side of the cascades last weekend and I decided to try my new low-cut bogs + OR Crocodile Gaiters.
I was worried that lack of laces on the boot would allow snow into into the gaiter/boot interface but surprisingly the entire thing worked flawlessly!
Tromped around in waist-deep snow with snowshoes and crashed on the fat bike many times but feet stayed warm and dry in the 32deg F weather. Since they were low cut boots my ankles had plenty of flexibility and worked great on platform pedals.

Tue, 01/26/2016 - 20:52
joy of vaping
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I went on a 3 hour ride last night in 28deg weather wearing just wool socks and regular (well ventilated) mountain shoes. My toes were really cold initially (and I though I had made a huge mistake) but then once I started working harder + getting the blood flowing, they stayed warm the whole time! I think i can contribute some of this to the shoes allowing my sweat to evaporate, because last time I did a similar ride in similar temperatures, I wore insulated hiking boots -- and my toes were completely numb by the end.

Thu, 02/11/2016 - 13:01
Tail Hook Lengthener
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It's cold, again, guys. Sucks.

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Thu, 12/01/2016 - 09:42
Rusty Piton
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I'm OK with it.
Need to get a new pair of winter boots though.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Thu, 12/01/2016 - 10:13
GrandmaJordan
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Time for the annual winter glove shopping and gnashing of teeth.

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Thu, 12/01/2016 - 10:15

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