Babby It's Cold Outside 15'-16'

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Babby It's Cold Outside 15'-16'

Water bottle is sitting on my spencer in the other room chirping at me. Surest sign Winter is near.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 00:26
BabbyMatt
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Not that we have particularly harsh winters here, but I'm without a car on weekdays this year, so 100% spencer commuting should be interesting. Let's see how accurate these El Niño predictions are.

Ordered a couple of showers pass goodies, including their elite jacket and some kinda waterproof socks. Fenderized the caadx too. Finally picked up some spacers to fix the rear fender line at the chain stay bridge. Also had trouble finding something to get the front lower at the fork bridge because the bracket that came with is too short to get close to the tire. I must be doing something wrong though because I'm having a shitty time trying to get things to stop rubbing, rattling, and generally being annoying. Or is that what fender life is about?

Anyway the commute is only 6.5 miles and we have a shower at work, so I'm probably over preparing.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 01:11
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #2)

BabbyMatt wrote:
I'm having a shitty time trying to get things to stop rubbing, rattling, and generally being annoying. Or is that what fender life is about?

Pretty much.

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 01:16
ShartAttack
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Just wait until your spencer falls over or gets bumped against a rack and you have to bend them back into place!

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 09:09
jeffro
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I finally said screw it and ordered a pair if Lake MXC303 winter boots. No more screwing around with shoe covers!

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 09:26
randsome beast
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I bought a pair of goggles to match my race cape.
Time will tell if they are an improvement over sunglasses.

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 09:57
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I think this will be the winter that I actually put fenders on my fredsled and ride a bit more outside.

But, between Ray's and skate skiing, I doubt my road riding will be considerable.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 10:41
Rusty Piton
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I can't stand goggles on a spencer. They kill my hearing and peripheral vision. I might feel differently if I wasn't riding in traffic 95% of the time though.
It was 55f the other day and I saw a guy dressed heavier than I do when it's zero. Wtf guy?

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 11:34
kmcdon
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This is gonna be my first year winter commuting, should be interesting. Haven't decided if I need studded tires yet, haven't lived in this city in the winter yet.

It's gonna be interesting.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 12:53
jimmythefly
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Yup. Not even cold here, but at the merest hint of rain/chilliness some folks get seriously bundled. I was sweaty when I got home, in a plain t-shirt and shorts.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad spencer. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 13:14
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #10)

BabbyMatt wrote:
Not that we have particularly harsh winters here, but I'm without a car on weekdays this year, so 100% spencer commuting should be interesting. Let's see how accurate these El Niño predictions are.

Ordered a couple of showers pass goodies, including their elite jacket and some kinda waterproof socks. Fenderized the caadx too. Finally picked up some spacers to fix the rear fender line at the chain stay bridge. Also had trouble finding something to get the front lower at the fork bridge because the bracket that came with is too short to get close to the tire. I must be doing something wrong though because I'm having a shitty time trying to get things to stop rubbing, rattling, and generally being annoying. Or is that what fender life is about?

Anyway the commute is only 6.5 miles and we have a shower at work, so I'm probably over preparing.

PYB and our team of experts will tell you why your fender installation sucks.

But yeah, sometimes they are just noisey, but certain things really can help.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad spencer. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 13:15
Lowrey'sOrgan
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Hm I'm gonna be (west) coasting through this one on 50F lows and maybe some rain

I already miss my colder-than-thou salt crusted high horse

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 13:42
eric_ssucks
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1) plastic shitblockers just wiggle about, especially if you only have the supplied stays and a long connection to the fork crown.
2) metal shitblockers wiggle about if you buy the velo-orange ones and don't spend a lot of time getting them just right.

You can stabilize both plastic and metal shitblockers by adding connection points to your spencer. My setup uses a bent stay in front of the fork crown to stabilize the front of the fender, and it works pretty well. If I did not have old beat to fuck v-o fenders I could probably dial out most of the noise and rubbing, but I DNGAF.
You should use at least a front mudflap, which will make the noise and rubbing worse but will save you $$$ and time on drivetrain maintenance.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 13:48
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #13)

kmcdon wrote:
This is gonna be my first year winter commuting, should be interesting. Haven't decided if I need studded tires yet, haven't lived in this city in the winter yet.

It's gonna be interesting.

Do you live someplace with lows below freezing for multiple days and ice/snow? Just order some studded tires now. You'll be slow and you'll hate them, but you'll get better exercise. Also there is no better feeling that YOLOing your way across ice and snow in the dark. I hate hate hated studded tires but they were 100% worth the peace of mind.

This thread is going to make me jealous. Texas winter is probably milder than Iowa spring. TC I loved commuting and riding in the snow, ice and muck.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 14:04
ShartAttack
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Also you bros doing fenders, do the ergott trick and put a mud flap on the front end of your rear fender. If you actually ride through slush and salt, this trick legit saves your cranks and pusher from the worst of it.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 14:06
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #15)

ShartAttack wrote:
Also you bros doing fenders, do the ergott trick and put a mud flap on the front end of your rear fender. If you actually ride through slush and salt, this trick legit saves your cranks and pusher from the worst of it.

You can also cut and shape an old water bottle to do the same thing, and that's more rigid.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:03
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(Reply to #16)

kmcdon wrote:
This is gonna be my first year winter commuting, should be interesting. Haven't decided if I need studded tires yet, haven't lived in this city in the winter yet.

It's gonna be interesting.

i spencer commuted about 80-90% of the time last winter in boulder. i did not find enough of a need for studded tires, but i rode my mtb when it was really snowy and occasionally walked short sections of ice if i came across them on my road spencer. I did not really come across any large enough ice sections to bother commuting entirely on studded tires - seems like it'd be annoying for the vast majority of the ride. but someone gave me some hand me downs, so i have the option to reconsider this winter.

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:05
kmcdon
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(Reply to #17)

aerobear wrote:
stuff about weather.

I'm gonna be on a fendered MTB this winter as well. Right now I have slicks on it, with the option of putting on the stock knobbies. My commute is only 3 miles if I take the train, with the option to make it 20 if I'm feeling lively.

I think I'm gonna try out the knobbies and see how that goes, and just adjust accordingly.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:11
Todd
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I change between studded and non studded regularly throughout the winter. We are expecting a-lot of stuff here in flag this year... all around though I consider biking in snow significantly safer than driving in snow.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:18
johnasavoia
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Gonna grab some rusty studded tires from the used bin at local co-op and throw on a beater wheel, would rather swap wheels than tires depending on weather. Probably just front wheel.

Every year around this time I get excited for winter biking and usually find some old MTB on craigslist to pull snow duty, and as the temps drop from 90s to 50s I fucking love it, but I know in a couple months when its well below freezing commuting is just a thing I have to do and its not fun but it is rewarding. Biking through and after all the insane Boston blizzards last year was so much fun though, hope predictions of a similar winter are true.

Here's this years horse, still needs fenders and more appropriate tires.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:53
emor
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My four year old plastic fenders are truly on their last legs, they rattle like crazy and both mudflaps fell off long ago. Fortunately, bikes with ample fender clearance make it a lot easier to yolo beat to shit fenders. Have a fresh set in the basement, but have been too lazy to put a new set on but now that's actually raining I need to do it. I hate arriving to work with wet legs up to my knee.

I think we're going to have a warm, but wet & windy winter if this fall is any indication (but weather doesn't work like that, I know).

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 18:16
Todd
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el nino bro, were getting your precipitation dawg.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 18:25
randsome beast
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Before you just go for the most aggressive option, studded tires, try these. Studded tires excel in very cold conditions where snow falls in very fine crystals, Alaska, that collapse and harden into something not quite like water ice. Glare ice requires a lot more studs than you want for riding on the roads.

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 18:41
jamey
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(Reply to #23)

kmcdon wrote:
aerobear wrote:
stuff about weather.

I'm gonna be on a fendered MTB this winter as well. Right now I have slicks on it, with the option of putting on the stock knobbies. My commute is only 3 miles if I take the train, with the option to make it 20 if I'm feeling lively.

I think I'm gonna try out the knobbies and see how that goes, and just adjust accordingly.

I've ridden through 6 winters in denver. I have fenders on a spencer of the roads might be wet, but fuck fenders on a spencer that will be in snow. I've had to walk my spencer too many times to snow packing in between the tires and fenders to deal with that again. Like Amy, I pull out the mountain spencer if its substantial snow, which is only necessary a few times a winter.

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 19:16
emor
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(Reply to #24)

Todd wrote:
el nino bro, were getting your precipitation dawg.

Guess you're right. Warmer than normal, less rain than normal. Another great riding winter!

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 21:01
VT regularbike
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Is every year el nino now?!

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Sun, 10/11/2015 - 19:38
Rusty Piton
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Hey Rando, those tires look neat. Will they work for me if I don't have an electric spencer?

emor wrote:
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Mon, 10/12/2015 - 14:50
randsome beast
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Weird they list them as e-spencer tires now. Especially since batteries don't work well in below freezing temps. They are the shit if your spencer can fit them.

High of 87 yesterday and the wind chill is below 40 right now. I'm already pissed off at the amount of ice this type of weather pattern is going to make.

emor wrote:
RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Mon, 10/12/2015 - 15:34
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #28)

VT regularbike wrote:
Is every year el nino now?!

Looks like we are still swinging back and forth:
http://ggweather.com/enso/oni.htm

Mon, 10/12/2015 - 18:33
turpencat
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man in 97-98 we had like 2 weeks straight no school
shit was bomb

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 10/12/2015 - 23:20
Rusty Piton
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Yeah, that was the only time in my life that school was canceled. I only got two days off though cause Mayor D didn't fuck around with snow removal like fucking Rahm does.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 09:41
BabbyMatt
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(Reply to #31)

jimmythefly wrote:

PYB and our team of experts will tell you why your fender installation sucks.

But yeah, sometimes they are just noisey, but certain things really can help.

I had my lbs put them on originally but then tried to adjust it myself a bit to get the fender line a bit closer



Cut and drilled out the metal part of a p-clamp to get this a bit lower. Might be a little too low because of the other nut. Might be able to fix this with a longer bolt

LBS used this p-clamp because the hole in that bridge thing is vertical and not horizontal

Used some presta valve things as spacers in the back:

Mostly seem to have trouble with the front wobbling though. I wonder if it's because of the fender eyelets being inside the fork and half way up. Also seems to screw up the curve around the back part of the wheel, as it sorta bulges out a bit. Also I think the threading inside one side is stripped a bit. It still holds but I can't seem to get it tightened.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 14:06
Andrew_Squirrel
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Whoa dat rear rack location is remarkable. Wheelies for daaaaays

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 14:12
BabbyMatt
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(Reply to #33)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Whoa dat rear rack location is remarkable. Wheelies for daaaaays

Yea it wouldn't clear the calipers otherwise with that rack (with the set of shorter brackets that came with it) and I didn't feel like returning it and getting some other kind. I ride with a blackburn pannier scooched up as far as it will go and it rides fine. Plus, no chance of heel strike.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 14:14
eric_ssucks
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You probably need a front attachment to tame the front fender wiggle.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 15:44
BabbyMatt
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(Reply to #35)

You mean like move the top attachment to the front of the fork, or an additional piece of hardware of some sort?

thanks

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 18:32
crowding
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I've used two L-brackets, one on either side of the fork crown.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 18:48
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #37)

BabbyMatt wrote:
LBS used this p-clamp because the hole in that bridge thing is vertical and not horizontal

they went out of their way to fuck that up

you drill the fender and bolt it directly to the bridge

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Wed, 10/14/2015 - 19:01
Andrew_Squirrel
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Also, if you plan on dynamoing that spencer you can use a light mount like this which has a fender stabilizer built-in

IQ Cyo and Cantilever Fork Crown Lamp Mount by Andrew Squirrel, on Flickr

It does take a little finesse to get everything lined up properly

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 19:03
joy of vaping
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If I were you, I'd drill the rear fender like Fred said, and mount the fenders tight to the brake bridge and fork crown. Then mount the biggest tires that'll fit under the fenders, and adjust the spacers down by the bb and fender stays for perfect fender line. That's how I've done things.

Andrew- that's clever, awesome!

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 20:27
Goddamnit Gunther
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Reminds me that my rack has one of those lamp hanger thingies. Any recommendations for a reasonably priced light for this? I'd like something battery ran or rechargeable

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turdly buttways

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 21:03
johnasavoia
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(Reply to #41)

gunther wrote:
Reminds me that my rack has one of those lamp hanger thingies. Any recommendations for a reasonably priced light for this? I'd like something battery ran or rechargeable

my rack has the same, I bolted a sawed off sidepull brake arm to it, and a cheapo light mount then put one of these on that. But at that point any light meant to attach to your bars would work.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:12
Goddamnit Gunther
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That seems like a pretty damn good setup. The spencer in that light ad is hilarious also

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:38
joy of vaping
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xpost from spencer shop lulz:

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:49
BabbyMatt
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I've always wanted to be albino spiderman for halloween!

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:36
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #45)

johnasavoia wrote:
and a cheapo light mount

You can also make your own if you have these parts laying around (steerer spacer, 2 stem caps & a bolt). Make sure your handlebar light mount can fully wrap the diameter though.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:55
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #46)

gunther wrote:
Reminds me that my rack has one of those lamp hanger thingies. Any recommendations for a reasonably priced light for this? I'd like something battery ran or rechargeable

Dynamo all the things!

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 15:28
jawn doe
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I have one metric fuckton of bell parts from a bogus shipment of brake levers. hole is maybe 3 or 4mm but can easily be drilled out. I used one to mount a rock bros bell to a bar end shifter. if anyone wants however many of them to fuck around with, it's yours for shipping (probably free unless it costs a lot to ship them in whatever envelope)
it's this bell

seriously there's about 700 of them and it's the one part of these bells that don't break

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 18:30
joy of vaping
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that's a lever with an integrated bell?

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 18:36
Goddamnit Gunther
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(Reply to #49)

eric_ssucks wrote:
Dynamo all the things!

Endpoint wrote:
turdly buttways

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 19:45
lukasz
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MONEY WONT LIGHT YOUR WAY UNLESS YOU SET IT ON FIRE

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 20:42

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