Spurbury police VS. Rockbros AKA the Bell Thread

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Rentable Faxmachine
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Just saw the new Crane bells on Universal Cycles:

https://www.universalcycles.com/new_products.php

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 22:18
Larry Winget
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Spurcycle sounds way nicer.

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Fri, 08/07/2015 - 22:28
ergott
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I have access to a matched pair of these. I'll need some time though. And I need some more bells. I assume you all will listen on a set of reference speakers, right?

http://www.earthworksaudio.com/microphones/qtc-series-2/qtc40/

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 22:37
ShartAttack
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Audiophile x bellphile = winning

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 22:40
Blakey
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(Reply to #105)

ShartAttack wrote:
Audiophile x bellphile = got a raging toner

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 22:45
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #106)

ergott wrote:
I have access to a matched pair of these. I'll need some time though. And I need some more bells. I assume you all will listen on a set of reference speakers, right?

http://www.earthworksaudio.com/microphones/qtc-series-2/qtc40/

I have a matched pair of SR77s but no artisanal bells or knockoffs.

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Fri, 08/07/2015 - 23:09
circuithero
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I bought a silver one and a black one off the kickstarter roughly two years ago. Just realized my ex has my black one. tarck digs deep.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 23:12
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Guaranteed - right now, J&B's Taiwanese purchasing agent is working with the Rockbro guys to get a Sunlite one made.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 00:33
Sneaky Viking
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(Reply to #109)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Guaranteed - when I see a Sunlite one eventually pop up on J&B, I will strongly consider buying it, then after much consideration decide, 'naaaah'.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 00:39
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Oh, I'll snatch that $5 shit right up.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 00:50
mander
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Better get that bell back circuithero, we need recordings of both colors.

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 01:15
NOVELTYNAME
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Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

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Sat, 08/08/2015 - 15:55
biek

mine showed up today. the engrish on the package is the best part. my one is silver.

never heard the spurcycle (or even seent it irl), but the rockbros one certainly sounds like a knockoff. the little allen screw that holds the works together on mine is a little off center.

side note: rockbros makes me think of rockwerks, the proto origin8 j&b house brand of a decade or so ago.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Sat, 08/08/2015 - 17:24
joy of vaping
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(Reply to #114)

blackholelectron wrote:

i've done hours-long master classes on extracting the correct overtones from a triangle during a mahler symphony

Go on...

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 00:39
jeffro
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(Reply to #115)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
$50 dollar bell

Actual lulz.

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 00:58
crowding
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(Reply to #116)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

need more LSD to answer this

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 02:19
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Ok, just won a one on eBay for $9. I don't have a SpurCycle with which to compare it, but I'll size it up next to my Incredibell Adjustabell (which is a great bell bell bell bell, bell bell bell), and report back.

Seattle people can have J-Sug record them in his studio.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 23:02
ckd
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(Reply to #118)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

A black bell absorbs more radiation, which raises its temperature, which would almost certainly effect the tone.

Spencer Raleigh, Medical Panini

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 23:16
emor
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TC: because of this thread I am using my spur cycle bell every time I pass someone

DING DING BITCHES

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 23:16
ckd
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(Reply to #120)

ckd wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

A black bell absorbs more radiation, which raises its temperature, which would almost certainly effect the tone.

And that's assuming all other qualities between the two are kept constant.

Spencer Raleigh, Medical Panini

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 23:22
randsome beast
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(Reply to #121)

ckd wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

A black bell absorbs more radiation, which raises its temperature, which would almost certainly effect the tone.

emor wrote:
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Mon, 08/10/2015 - 00:11
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Serious answer is that my black Incredibell sounds totally different than my silver Incredibell, and when testing the Crane Bells at Recycled, the silver and black were way different tonally.

But I prefer the ckd answer.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 00:46
ckd
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(Reply to #123)

randsome beast wrote:
ckd wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Is there a tonal difference between the colors?

A black bell absorbs more radiation, which raises its temperature, which would almost certainly effect the tone.

Sorry. I meant pitch, not tone.

Spencer Raleigh, Medical Panini

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 02:14
JLN
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(Reply to #124)

ergott wrote:
That file peaks and distorts

Here's my Spur recorded with an AT2035 mic. After all, Tarck is all about

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hynkmt30c6mmqmq/Spur%20Bell.mp3?dl=0

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 06:06
Rentable Faxmachine
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OK, who has these on their phone as a ring tone/alert?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:31
jimmythefly
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Spurcycle lists the silver color as "raw" and the black as "dlc". So there is at least some difference in the bell itself in the method used to color the black one and what that does to the metal itself.

I'm also curious how they are made -look like spun? Or is the bell first a disc that is then formed in a die or deep-drawn? I barely know anything abut this stuff, just enough to start asking questions. I do know that the metal itself can vary from batch to batch, and depending on the process they use it could affect the final bell sound, but not sure if enough to be noticeable to the human ear.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:02
turpencat
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I really hope they tune them.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:25
ergott
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(Reply to #128)

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
OK, who has these on their phone as a ring tone/alert?

Here's a single ping if you want. Normalized for maximum notification.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxu54rmx2q8fss0/Spur%20single%20ping.mp3?dl=0

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:28
cheese
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I have the regular ios 'ding' but would appreciate the glorious sustain and clarity of the Spurcycle, might have to make the upgrade

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:18
ergott
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When I went through what's involved with changing the ringtone on iOS I laughed. Fucking ridiculous. I just emailed myself the mp3 and changed it in settings. Is that such a crime Apple?

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:25
johnasavoia
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Got my rockbros, sounds good. My crane sounds good too. Different. I'm happy.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:59
Rusty Piton
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You got the crane knockoff?

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Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:01
johnasavoia
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No, just comparing the spur knockoff to my real crane

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:58
Rusty Piton
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Damnit get a crane knockoff and test it!

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:26
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I'll grab one with my Recycled credit, then we can get Fred's SpurCycle, my Rockbros and the Crane together for a resonance test.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:34
NOVELTYNAME
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Did you say you have an incredibell as well? Do that one too

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:38
Andrew_Squirrel
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Holy crap this thread is wonderful.

Still haven't recieved the Rockbros in mail yet smiley

I'm considering rigging up a test handlebar/stem/cut steerer in my bench vise and clamping the Rockbros on one side and Spurcycle on the other.

Unfortunately I have raw Spurcycle and black Rockbros so test will be green apples and red apples

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 17:38
JUGE FREDD
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I have both the black and silver Suprcycle bells

their dings are identical you dorks

if you did manage to tell them apart I'd chalk that up to random manufacturing differences or torque on the bolt, not the 1μm thick coat of black DLC

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Wed, 08/12/2015 - 18:32
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #139)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
I have both the black and silver Suprcycle bells

their dings are identical you dorks

if you did manage to tell them apart I'd chalk that up to random manufacturing differences or torque on the bolt, not the 1μm thick coat of black DLC

prove it

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 18:40
cheese
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Your bell sucks and we have a team of experts to prove it.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 18:59
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #141)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
I have both the black and silver Suprcycle bells

their dings are identical you dorks

if you did manage to tell them apart I'd chalk that up to random manufacturing differences or torque on the bolt, not the 1μm thick coat of black DLC

Did Fred just call us dorks?

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 21:45
Sneaky Viking
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ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 22:36
JUGE FREDD
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ir did

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 05:17
lofarkas
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Ebayed the rockbros. It better be good, I haven't had a bell on a bike since I was 16.

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 06:35
Rusty Piton
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TBH, I kinda miss my shitty old barend bell.
I hate taking my hand off the bars for that dingdingding.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 09:32
NOVELTYNAME
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Got my rockbros
Didn't open it
But the declared value is $3
That designer tax is looking mighty steep

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 10:58
buffoon
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(Reply to #147)

Rusty Piton wrote:
TBH, I kinda miss my shitty old barend bell.
I hate taking my hand off the bars for that dingdingding.

di2 bell will be the next game changer

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:20
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #148)

buffoon wrote:
Rusty Piton wrote:
TBH, I kinda miss my shitty old barend bell.
I hate taking my hand off the bars for that dingdingding.

di2 bell will be the next game changer

PC LOAD LETTER -- WTF?!?!?!

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:22
cheese
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Di2 bell is functionally a telephone ringer, or a fire alarm.

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 15:26
randsome beast
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iPhone acting as a head unit for Di2 with sprint shifter to cue Spurcycle ring tone. Now we just need to establish a millisecond ping rate for bluetooth from Di2 and internal processing time.

emor wrote:
RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Thu, 08/13/2015 - 15:34

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