9 speed dead ender's thread

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9 speed dead ender's thread

I think I'm not the only one clinging to 9spd tech still, but maybe I'm wrong.
Why do we do it? Do we need therapy?

I got really into bikes in the 9s era, and every geared bike I own--road, CX, MTB, fat, all have 9s cassettes and shifters.
I'm into the interchangeability and I feel like the newer stuff is superfluous and possibly weaker.
I'm totally aware that 8s loyalists have many of the same feelings but possibly more reliable tech to cling to--I wouldn't know.
I'm also totally aware that 10s chains have proven at least reasonably durable in the real world.

But still.

By the scarcity of good used 9s shifters I think there are more like me out there.
Am I a hopeless Luddite? Are there any others here?

Hoping this can be a support group--h8ters stay out...

Sat, 07/04/2015 - 21:30
mander
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9.speed lifer here

What can i say, I'm cautious and a huge cheapskate

lm a strange case, retro means nothing to me but i don't even have a bike with indexed shifters

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 04:52
liquify
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To make you feel better, if you upgrade to 10s on road and mtb, still use the 9sp danglers to shift 10s road shifters.
My 10s 105 shifts the 9s xt amazingly on the rawland and sames for ultegra shifters on same 9s rear.

Clutch life is pretty cool, too, I guess.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 08:12
hiljentaa
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Part of this cru. Somehow have amassed a hoard of probably the dumbest version of 9s ever, Campy. So, just using it til it dies somehow, which doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon.

Whatever though. I like the shifters.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:06
ShartAttack
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I sold some 9 speed Tiagra shakes on eBay last year. I think I got like $80 for them? So maybe that's the cult of 9 at work.

I still have 9 speed on my LHT and hambiek. Hambiek will probably get an upgrade to 10s eventually. 9s 11-32 on the LHT is surprisingly good for the way I ride it. If I ever wear out the shifters I'll probably upgrade that one to 10s too, considered going to 8s but the wide range cassettes have too many compromises then.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 09:47
joy of vaping
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My old road bike had 9s Ultegra. But then I realized you can't buy new hoods for the shifters. And can't rebuild the shifters. So I sold the whole thing. Guess I'm not a 9s bro anymore.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 12:24
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Considering what used Shimano 9s shifters of 105 and above go for, there must be more of us out there. I'm feeling fairly secure as I've got one extra pair of Ultegras on deck. The last time I was looking for a cassette I was surprised at how few options were left.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 12:25
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Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:44
NOVELTYNAME
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Which 9sp dangler is clutch?

"Folks want options!"

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 14:55
drwelby
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IT'S BEAUTIFUL

srslytho I have some 9spd DA shakes if someone wants em

Naturally, this bike is partially tarck's fault.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 15:45
oogens
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(Reply to #10)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Which 9sp dangler is clutch?

It's not perfect, but I shifted a shadow+ with 9sp sram shifters until I got the rest of my 10 speed shit in

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:23
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #11)

oogenssssss wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Which 9sp dangler is clutch?

It's not perfect, but I shifted a shadow+ with 9sp sram shifters until I got the rest of my 10 speed shit in

I think I know this answer already, is there a shadow+ that shifts 10 with 6700/7900 shakes?

"Folks want options!"

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 16:31
rauce
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There's no shimano clutch dangler that shifts with road 10spd without modification.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 17:10
heavymetal
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Got 9sp Tiagra shakes on the commuter, shifting 8sp Sora. Hand-me-downs from someone else's upgrade that ended up on my bike when the shimergo crapped out. Shakes work fine, but I wouldn't be chasing down bits to keep it going if it all went south.
The only thing I had to buy was a cassette, and that week Euroland happened to have 9sp Ultegra cassettes for like 30 bucks.

Have 10sp Ultegra on my go-fast roadie, and will be going 11sp on next bike.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 18:34
Shortpants
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I'm still riding a deore 8 speed on my '90 stumpjumper.

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 18:50
Larry Winget
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I'm running 3 9 speed drivetrains, but downtubes, thumb shifter, and 11/9 Shimergo, so no shakes drama.

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Sun, 07/05/2015 - 19:35
crowding
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wifebike has a last-gen Deore LX group, with rapidrise even

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:15
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I should have known.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:27
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(Reply to #18)

drwelby wrote:
srslytho I have some 9spd DA shakes if someone wants em

dibs

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 21:30
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(Reply to #19)

crowding wrote:
wifebike has a last-gen Deore LX group, with rapidrise even

My Trek 520 has that front and rear derailleur. Still going strong.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Sun, 07/05/2015 - 23:55
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I'm running 8sp drivetrain on 10sp danglepushers using 6sp dt shifters. Gives me all of it (though I have to tighten the shifters every once in a while)

Last vestiges of Rivdork in my life, really.

edit: no 9sp in the 9sp thread

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Mon, 07/06/2015 - 15:33
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(Reply to #21)

emor wrote:
I'm running 8sp drivetrain on 10sp danglepushers using 6sp dt shifters.

Everything BUT 9s in the 9s thread.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 16:36
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9s is the worst after all

but this thread is the best

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Mon, 07/06/2015 - 17:30
jimmythefly
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'sup 9 speed bros.

Basically I'm a cheapskate, and I'm very reluctant to replace working 9 speed stuff with 10 speed. Even for something like a clutch dangler, I just can't see getting rid of functional Shimano 9s MTB parts and having to buy not only the dangler but also the shifters.

Maybe this year there will be some good stuff at bike swap or whatever and I will finally upgrade.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 17:49
ShartAttack
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I also think this would be a good place to mention that the SRAM 8 speed 11-32 cassette is genius and is pretty much like having 9 speed on the wide range cassette. Guarantees that my commuter will be 8 speed forever given they keep making cheapo shifters.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 07/06/2015 - 19:16
Bahamontes
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DA shakes
Ultegra pusher + 53:39 cranks
XT dangler + 11-34 cassette

#ALLOFIT #9SPEEDLYFE

Tue, 07/07/2015 - 01:28
cheese
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Still running 9s Ultegra out of laziness/cheapness because I swapped most of the components over from old road bike. Endpoint will be 6800 though.

Tue, 07/07/2015 - 14:55
tjayk
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just installed 10s xt dynasys dangler being controlled by 9s srams on the mtb.. did the stand off clamp trick and works great, seemed good with a straight connection too. so happy to have awesome 9s clutch dangler on mtb!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 13:20
Gino
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(Reply to #28)

Bahamontes wrote:
DA shakes
Ultegra pusher + 53:39 cranks
XT dangler + 11-34 cassette

#ALLOFIT #9SPEEDLYFE

I am very into this. Med or long dangler?

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 04:32
Blakey
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XT 9sp shadow comes in med or long. I use a med with a 46/30 crankset.

Lower groups only come in long cage for 9sp shadow, but the alivio has a barrel adjuster built in, so that's nice.

only really need a long cage if you're running a triple though.

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 05:06
DDYTDY
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9sp DA on CX and CSK climbing bike. Ultegra on TAF roller/DGAF road bike.

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 10:39
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I have installed the 9s SRAM/10s Shimano clicker/dangler combo on the P-29er (SLX clutch dangler with spacer on the clamp) and it shifted at least as well as 9sSRAM/9sSRAM on the shakedown ride. More info after this weekend's race...

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 22:00
Bahamontes
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(Reply to #32)

Gino wrote:
Bahamontes wrote:
DA shakes
Ultegra pusher + 53:39 cranks
XT dangler + 11-34 cassette

#ALLOFIT #9SPEEDLYFE

I am very into this. Med or long dangler?

Mediums

Tue, 08/04/2015 - 15:28
ShartAttack
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My hambeast is currently 9 speed. I think that my front shifting situation should still work for 10 speed, so I'd just need a chain, shifter, dangler, cassette,and maybe a new shift cable to upgrade. Doing SLX that would be about $100. Difference between the cassettes:

9 speed: 12 - 14 - 16 - 18 - 21 - 24 - 28 - 32 - 36

10 speed :11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-36

Worth $100 to get clutch and another 2t jump? I can't decide.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 09:41
tjayk
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this isn't the shartlife thread.

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 12:38
oogens
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are you having problems with dropped chains? i'd consider it (but a narrow wide chainring was sufficient for chain drop for me)
if your shit is working, then it's kind of why bother. I'd wait until i roached the dangler and/or cassette

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 12:46
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #36)

oogenssssss wrote:
are you having problems with dropped chains? i'd consider it (but a narrow wide chainring was sufficient for chain drop for me)
if your shit is working, then it's kind of why bother. I'd wait until i roached the dangler and/or cassette

Not dropping the chain. Pretty much seems to be working. I think I'll remain a 9 speed dead ender for a while longer.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 13:43
Bahamontes
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I crashed at like a half a mile an hour in some loose sand on pavement and I think my right 7700 shifter is dunzo?! It seems to be working about every twelve times I try to shift.

I also need new chainrings. I am XT 9 speed rear.

Is this the time to go to something 10 spd, or do I just grab the sweet condition little 7700 mini group on ebay and keep on keeping on?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 10:17
Whippin Skidz
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I just built a bike with new Alivio M4000 9s from ebay. It shifts. It clicks. It does what I need it to.

Couldn't use the FD though, tube shape where the clamp mounts isn't round.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:14
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #39)

GnarShred wrote:
Couldn't use the FD though, tube shape where the clamp mounts isn't round.

Shift with stick

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Fri, 09/18/2015 - 12:21
Whippin Skidz
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Funny enough, it's a Bridgestone.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 14:08
liquify
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You can shift 10s road with your 9s mtb rear if shimano. Works great with 5700 shifters and 9s shadow xt rear on 10s xt cassette.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 14:31
The RTS
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(Reply to #42)

GnarShred wrote:
Funny enough, it's a Bridgestone.

A non-round Bridgestone?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 16:35
Whippin Skidz
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Tigged MB-4, DT and ST are ovalized a bit laterally at the BB shell, DT is ovalized a bit vertically at the HT. Don't know why, don't remember if my MB-5 was like that.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 16:57
buffoon
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(Reply to #44)

Bahamontes wrote:
I crashed at like a half a mile an hour in some loose sand on pavement and I think my right 7700 shifter is dunzo?! It seems to be working about every twelve times I try to shift.

I also need new chainrings. I am XT 9 speed rear.

Is this the time to go to something 10 spd, or do I just grab the sweet condition little 7700 mini group on ebay and keep on keeping on?

I'll sell you some 5600 shakes for beer money if you wanna go 10s for cheap. They will work with your 9s mtb dangler like frank said.

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 18:16
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9s 4 lyfe...

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 19:22
The RTS
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(Reply to #46)

GnarShred wrote:
Tigged MB-4, DT and ST are ovalized a bit laterally at the BB shell, DT is ovalized a bit vertically at the HT. Don't know why, don't remember if my MB-5 was like that.

You just need a high clamp pusher

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 21:55
Whippin Skidz
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Yep. I have the original STX pusher and it's working well. Alivio is low clamp. I may upgrade the STX to something more modern-ish to fit with the rest of the components, but I'm in no rush.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 23:53
kmcdon
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TC I still have old 7 speed on my road bike and dgaf either :/

Thu, 09/24/2015 - 17:06
cousinmosquito
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I still have 9 speed on my TT, road and CX bike. I love the 9 speed rear mech so much I had a recent rant on it. I have never once mangled one in more than 6 seasons of CX. I don't rate the later 9speed models at all tho.
I use the same on my drop-barred Karate Monkey with Durace 10 speed. The 10 speed levers are just more comfy, and they were free : ) I think they are still making the low-end 9 speed shifters, Sora ?
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Wed, 09/30/2015 - 22:30
oogens
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Oh my God, you really are the tt karate monkey guy

You ever ride with risers or flats on that bike, or is it always drop bar?

Wed, 09/30/2015 - 23:14

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