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kmcdon
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I think I paid closer to $250-240 for the sugino 601 nerdcranks, NIB. Ebay, if you don't want to pay retail.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 00:32
eric_ssucks
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FSA does make a sl-k 386 Evo nerd crank with a removable spider. It's pretty trick unless you're one of the 85% of bikes out there with a BSA bottom bracket, then your bb solutions are pretty kludgy.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 00:41
Blakey
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If you want narrow q, sub 34T, sub 1kg, there are few (new) options (sugino OX, compass/herse, FSA SLK, T.A Carmina, praxis zayante, WI VBC.). little economy of scale, little price competition. Even the IRD Defiant is >$200.

If you're a dirtbag, and you still want the above but without the pricetag, you have a few options, most of which are too time intensive: In ~increasing price:
repurposed 94/58 or 110/74 BCD MTB cranks with a shorter UN55
hack a 110/74 road triple to a double
old 50.4 BCD cranks
Used fancy nerd cranks (I got lucky on ebay)
swap a 104/64 spider onto sram s900 cranks.

Or wait for VO's new 46/30 crankset

Or shimano's inevitable merging of 24mm spindle road / MTB / metrea into a hollow arm, low Q crankset with 4 arm asymmetric chainrings.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 00:52
eric_ssucks
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I'll probably be too old to ride by the time the Shimano unicorn crank comes out.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 00:57
kmcdon
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I'm pretty sure the Q on my stronglight 49D is 138mm with a 122.5mm UN55. I know for sure that they're narrower than the ox601, and you can get it for less than $100 if you're willing to wait for a deal. Chainrings might not be particularly cheap, though.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 01:05
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Kyle, you should know I never pay retail for bike parts.

If that Velo Orange comes in black, it would make a tempting addition to several bikes.

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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 01:28
Face
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(Reply to #957)

eric_ssucks wrote:
I'll probably be too old to ride by the time the Shimano unicorn crank comes out.

I hope to get said crank, a road clutch dangler for 1x, and a TA dyno hub by the time I retire. That way I'll actually have the free time to enjoy them.

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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 01:46
Gary Fissure
(Reply to #958)

eric_ssucks wrote:
Doubles as a boat anchor if you find yourself in maritime situations.

I see OX601Ds at 925g

Ebay says 485g on the FSAs, + 313g for UN54

I'm not sure of 9/11s chainring compatibility

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 07:47
jamesacklin
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(Reply to #959)

Blakey wrote:
swap a 104/64 spider onto sram s900 cranks.

A friend of mine went this route, unsure how it turned out since he ditched it within a week for 1x.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 11:59
Face
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(Reply to #960)

jamesacklin wrote:
Blakey wrote:
swap a 104/64 spider onto sram s900 cranks.

A friend of mine went this route, unsure how it turned out since he ditched it within a week for 1x.

Very curious how this would work out.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 13:09
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #961)

ladrodibici wrote:
650B rims for a gravel/all-road bike running 42mm rubber... Stans Crest? Is there a better value light weight rim?

I haven't ridden then yet, but I think the wtb KOM rims were a lot nicer to build with than the Stan's rims I've built up in the past (quite a few). They felt a lot less soft and are pretty comparable, weight-wise.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 13:27
jeffro
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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 14:53
Shortpants
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Yall are ridiculous arguing about why major manufacturers don't offer a cheaper version of the subcompact.

The industry is JUST now starting to fully embrace compact cranks and there are still a lot of dead-enders out there that never will. Now imagine how many people are done with compact and moving onto subcompact? Cool so take whatever number that is you've made up and split it in two. Because if you offer two products you've now split your market between the two. You could have offered one product that filled the tiny tiny niche of nerds that want a subcompact. For that product you've nailed down the designs, manufacture, etc to get a certain margin. Now do it again for the cheaper product. You've now doubled your cost, lowered your margin on the 2nd tier item, and all for the same market share you had to start.

Good job. Now take a trip over to the bike blog thread to criticize radlawn for going out of business because they chased fads too quickly resulting in poor QA and half baked ideas.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 16:17
Shortpants
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Also remember that everything has an opportunity cost. It's not like those factories have machines sitting idle and workers playing card games to pass the time. Whatever time/labor went into creating that small margin 2nd tier subcompact could have been used to manufacture high-margin quickly moving product already in their product line.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 16:35
eric_ssucks
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Shimano won't do shit with a subcompact until they get (~10,000?!??) A lot of orders. Trek is a lot of the way there, but sram with their 1x is already taking a lot of the subcompact market.

Mon, 09/04/2017 - 17:15
Face
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(Reply to #966)

Shortpants wrote:
The industry is JUST now starting to fully embrace compact cranks...

It's not 2007 anymore. Compact cranksets and semi-compact have been mainstays for a while now.

I'm with you on every other point though.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 18:18
Tail Hook Lengthener
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He's still right, though. The industry only switched over to compact like ~4 years ago. Even with 7900/6700/5700, 53/39 was the de facto standard.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
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Mon, 09/04/2017 - 18:33
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #968)

Might try a set of those cranks once my VO 46/30 chainrings wear out on the commuter. Not really feeling VO's squared-off crank arms, they clip the heels of certain shoes and I'm starting to loathe their appearance.

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 18:56
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #969)

eric_ssucks wrote:
I'll probably be too old to ride by the time the Shimano unicorn crank comes out.

I fear that when they eventually do come out with a narrow-Q subcompact it will look like yet another robocop codpiece

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 19:02
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #970)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
eric_ssucks wrote:
I'll probably be too old to ride by the time the Shimano unicorn crank comes out.

I fear that when they eventually do come out with a narrow-Q subcompact it will look like yet another robocop codpiece

It is certain to look that way, and you know it. The SRAM adventure crank 1x is probably where the industry is heading, cheaper MSRP on bikes, no need to educate consumers about how dual-range transmissions work, and lighter published weights.

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 19:12
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #971)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
eric_ssucks wrote:
I'll probably be too old to ride by the time the Shimano unicorn crank comes out.

I fear that when they eventually do come out with a narrow-Q subcompact it will look like yet another robocop codpiece

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 20:12
Blakey
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OMG

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 20:21
jamesacklin
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Very accurate

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 20:28
Todd
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is that a tarckshoop?

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 20:50
Endpoint
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It better be now.

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 21:16
euclid
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!!!

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 21:26
jeffro
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Goddamn, Squirrel. Nice.

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 21:30
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #978)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I fear that when they eventually do come out with a narrow-Q subcompact it will look like yet another robocop codpiece

The era of classy Shimano design is fully over, it's all about "total integration", now. There is literally NO question that it will look like this, and use proprietary, hard-to-find chainrings. Literally no question whatsoever. This was one of my reasons for finally buying a Sugino.

I actually like the way the new stuff looks, but only on the sleek carpet fiber wunderbikes for which it was designed.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 21:42
mdilthey
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https://roadrunnerbags.us/collections/bags-for-your-bike/products/the-jammer-bag

what do ya think? should I?

My Crotch Rockett has a Swift Zeitgeist in the back and a half-frame bag in the middle. If I add a soft bag in the front I can camp with it. I have no rack mounts.

Price doesn't really matter. My dad and I have a little battle every year when I tell him I don't want any material goods for christmas and he gets really offended, so I have to throw him a bone.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 11/18/2017 - 00:26
NOVELTYNAME
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Sure, why not.

It doesn’t look like it does much more than the jandd version with a cartoon whale embroidered on it, except it’s larger. Doesn’t really look like you can easily access it while riding.

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 11/18/2017 - 11:47
jdsmooth
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Seems alright if you look at it as a swee troll for your drop bars. i'd want some pockets on the backside tho; putting a chalk bag there could be awkward.
Or you could just get on with it put a basket on already for crying out loud.

Five-foot drops at speed on unstable terrain? Yep.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 09:39
Face
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My helmet light is too heavy. I'm looking for something little with a remote battery in the 500-700 lumen range. LBSbro suggested Light and Motion Stella. Light looks good, I know the company has a easy to deal with if anything goes wrong. Is there anything else I should look at before I pull the trigger?

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Mon, 11/20/2017 - 12:32
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #983)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
It doesn’t look like it does much more than the jandd version with a cartoon whale embroidered on it, except it’s larger. Doesn’t really look like you can easily access it while riding.

buckled down roll-top looks a million times better than fighting with a zipper and cuttingboard stiffener

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 13:52
iwillbe
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(Reply to #984)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
It doesn’t look like it does much more than the jandd version with a cartoon whale embroidered on it, except it’s larger. Doesn’t really look like you can easily access it while riding.

buckled down roll-top looks a million times better than fighting with a zipper and cuttingboard stiffener

Bonus points for not smoothing the edges of the cuttingboard before installing. I've nearly lost a finger trying to reach into my $8 Bushwacker / $2 cuttingboard h-bar bag while riding.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 14:39
mdilthey
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If I were 100% about utility here I'd probably just use this, which I already have:

https://www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/collections/handlebar-bags/products/front-end-loader

I have a little Jandd barrel and the only thing I find the cheap zipper useful for is a raincoat. I skip the cuttingboard and just let the stuffed jacket hold the roll shape, and it works fine. I did that for a whole month-long tour once, and it was fine, but access while riding is absolutely N/A.

Maybe 50% of my interest in this bag is about aesthetics. I think this bag looks cool/nice and I really like the two other Roadrunner bags I have. I am 100% going to put yellow grips on my Pugsley exactly like this picture:

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 15:11
Andrew_Squirrel
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Can you still use a front light with the bag. Does that matter to you?

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 15:22
joy of vaping
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atmo the outer shell hbar bag looks more useful (can be used as a dry bag holster and is operable while riding) but I’ve never seen either one in person.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 15:28
mdilthey
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(Reply to #988)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Can you still use a front light with the bag. Does that matter to you?

Something tells me I can with my light. I have a Gloworm commuter light attached to a GoPro handlebar mount, so the light sits a solid 3 inches above the bar. But, if I do have issues, I used to use one of these:

26/M/41t N/W

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 23:09
kmcdon
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(Reply to #989)

mdilthey wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Can you still use a front light with the bag. Does that matter to you?

Something tells me I can with my light. I have a Gloworm commuter light attached to a GoPro handlebar mount, so the light sits a solid 3 inches above the bar. But, if I do have issues, I used to use one of these:

those are cool and all, but a repurposed socket is even cooler.

Tue, 11/21/2017 - 01:14
wickedwagon
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(Reply to #990)

Face wrote:
My helmet light is too heavy. I'm looking for something little with a remote battery in the 500-700 lumen range. LBSbro suggested Light and Motion Stella. Light looks good, I know the company has a easy to deal with if anything goes wrong. Is there anything else I should look at before I pull the trigger?

I have this. Haven't had it long, but feels light when riding.

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 11/23/2017 - 21:02
ShartAttack
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I can't find the last pair of DnD gloves that I bought, so while I'm waiting for them to turn up I am considering other options. Handups are kinda funny but are they any good? Would be using them for commuting/road riding, I've just decided that I like full-finger gloves all year. If anybody has any other suggestions for this I'm all ears

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Fri, 01/19/2018 - 15:11
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #992)

kmcdon wrote:
mdilthey wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Can you still use a front light with the bag. Does that matter to you?

Something tells me I can with my light. I have a Gloworm commuter light attached to a GoPro handlebar mount, so the light sits a solid 3 inches above the bar. But, if I do have issues, I used to use one of these:

those are cool and all, but a repurposed socket is even cooler.

What’s even cooler is just hammering a starnut into a length of cut steerer tube and not spending a dime.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 01/19/2018 - 15:55
Face
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(Reply to #993)

ShartAttack wrote:
I can't find the last pair of DnD gloves that I bought, so while I'm waiting for them to turn up I am considering other options. Handups are kinda funny but are they any good? Would be using them for commuting/road riding, I've just decided that I like full-finger gloves all year. If anybody has any other suggestions for this I'm all ears

Can vouch for Handup gloves. They replaced a beat ass pair of 661s, they feel nicer on my hands. They're kinda thick for a summer glove but I'll burn that bridge when I get there.

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Fri, 01/19/2018 - 17:45
iwillbe
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HandUp:
If you're using drop bars, they're less than optimal for longer (2+ hour) rides, as they come juuuust to the bottom of one's palm. Individual hand shape may vary and all, but I found them a bit short. For less long rides, they're comfy and grippy as hell.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Fri, 01/19/2018 - 18:10
fixed
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^ this is my issue with every glove on drop bar bikes ever. i don't know if i just have long fingers? it's not an issue with flat bar bikes at all. i really just need a glove with a longer palm.

Mon, 01/22/2018 - 11:01
aek
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I'm sure it's been discussed before, but my Mum is asking about cameras for her bike. Someone she knows just won in court because they had the dipshit that hit them on camera doing it deliberately.

What are the best cameras out there for something like this? They don't have to be very fancy, she's not making sick edits with the footage. She wants front and rear and they are going to have to be VERY simple.

What does the hivemind have to say?

doofo wrote:
tarck eats ur soul one lol at a time

Wed, 01/24/2018 - 03:09
lukasz
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Gotta get on this today. Which do I purchase?

Wed, 01/24/2018 - 10:13
yonderboy
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What kind of bike are they going on? The XT calipers don't feather very well and bite hard later in the stroke; they're better suited for an enduro or downhill bike. The Hope are a better all-rounder, and that particular caliper is better suited for cross and party bike applications.

Wed, 01/24/2018 - 12:04
motorbacon
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Neither. All quad piston calipers suck. As pad wears down, trailing piston gets dragged out at an angle and will retracted fully. See all Guide calipers and Zees

Wed, 01/24/2018 - 12:49
lukasz
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shit man you're crushing a fantasy here

Wed, 01/24/2018 - 12:51

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