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GrandmaJordan
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Gear Recommendations

I don't think we have a thread like this yet? Ask for gear recommendations/give gear recommendations.

I'll go first: what rain booties do people like? Double points if they work well in wet, dry, and cold. My current system is pretty much shot, but I've been wearing these Castelli things that are windproof and somewhat insulated (fleecy inside), and then covering them with water resistant Giro things. It's been okayish, but since both pairs are ripped, and have decomposing zippers, I'd like to upgrade on a replacement. Thinking about those pink Rapha jawns, but mostly because they're pink.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 22:54
Larry Winget
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I have the PI hi viz Pro-whatever ones. They are pretty legit, and good over a big temperature range.

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Wed, 10/22/2014 - 23:00
yummygooey

i have the pearl izumi elite barriers. they work great imo and i like them a lot... but i think they're uggo and i've ruined them via multiple crashes. debating whether i should just get them again or try something new for conspicuous consumption's sake.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 23:05
NOVELTYNAME
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I have the Louie garneau shoe front covers (strap in back) and they are just ok, they're cheap and work good enough for a 30 min commute but they're not great for 3-4 hours

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Wed, 10/22/2014 - 23:09
white folks
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get the ones that i have. they're really the best thing out there still.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 01:00
Roundabout
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The Castelli Diluvio neoprene covers work well in a wide range of conditions. The gloves are warm as all hell too, but that's because they DO NOT breathe and so you get warm swampland going - either works for you or hate it. Shoe covers it's definitely less of an issue. I currently have a set of Castelli Pioggia's that are hardly insulated, do a good job of shielding from water/wind but are way too loose around the ankles so if it's more than a drizzle for more than 30 minutes my shoes are getting wet (which is less than ideal when bont's bath tub soles work as a bath tub. Crazy how much water they accumulate).

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 01:06
eric_ssucks
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Shimano pro something or other shoe covers. Too warm to use most of the time, but then again I have a lot of mass on most bike people. Got em from bike tires direct, mostly because Clint told me to.

I got some endura shoe covers that are much easier to take off and walk in, two critical features when riding the ferry everyday.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 01:15
that guy
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These Bontrager jawns are legit. I guess that makes them recommended.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 02:37
Petr5
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It'd be helpful if y'all mention the cleat system your recs work with. I need dual duty. Also, the two recs I've investigated so far are $70+. Budget options?

Also, I had the LG wind dry sl's that hard hardly any insulation, but they were fine down as to as low as I dared to ride (~0 °f). I have heard they aren't very water proof, but Boise does not provide the opportunity to form such opinions.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 04:48
aerobear
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last few years i was using the gore water proof ones. not warm, but good enough for water. but i got a hole in them and have kept using them despite said hole.

had the castelli neoprenes before that. also have survived a few years of use, with some holes in them. they tear relatively easy - mine started tearing down the back right away. they get fully saturated, but stay warm. expect ankle sweats if it isn't wet.

i need a good recommendation for cold and less rainy. what kinda shoe covers should i get for boulder? need rd and mtn

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:34
Sneaky Viking
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I've got some Specialized ones that are good.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:38
nathanong87

gore 'thermal' over shoe , are the only true water proof over shoes i've used, but they aren't very warm. I usually put them over toe warmers or something.

I have a set of assos fugu winter , and they are warmer than the gore stuff and have a water repellant coating to them, but they can get saturated by lots and lots of water for sure....not that i've tried.

i kinda wanna try the new rapha stuff, but for the amount of times i really ride with over shoes and in the wet, i dont think my bank account can support many more guestimates on winter clothing. Gloves is a whole other issue....

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:00
Petr5
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AB, I imagine Boulders weather is similar to Boises and those LGs I mentioned were perfect. Wind proof and warm. Plus cheap. Fit both mtn and spd, but I'd recommend pulling the toe up/off if you're in the gnar hike-a-biking.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:00
Petr5
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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:01
Endpoint
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Never tried a set of booties that can come close to doing what a good pair of winter shoes can do. Two best purchases I have ever made for cold/wet riding. Winter shoes and a nice wool base layer.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:15
white folks
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^ true. might be time to get you some winter shoes.

endura road overshoe is what I have. works in pretty much everything but the cold-ass january & february hurt-rain.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:33
Endpoint
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Most of the industry has settled on $200 msrp for this life changing piece of kit. Just about everyone on here has some sort of bro deal so there is really no excuse. If you don't own winter shoes you are seriously missing the boat. I pretty much wore mine non-stop November through April (not counting this last year of course because they cut them off my feet in January). Anything under 50 degrees and I grab them. Seriously makes everything about fall/winter riding better.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:41
imoscardotcom
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i didn't even know winter shoes existed

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:46
Petr5
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They go against my layers logos. #holdout

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:05
lukasz
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Was going to say winter shoes yesterday. Didn't want to be seem snarky. Overshoes are always going to have a giant not-waterproof hole in the bottom for the big heat sink that is you rcleat. The only way winter shoes get wet is moisture from the top of your sock in a downpour.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:06
turpencat
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I currently have access to none bro deals and have been looking for winter shoes
it snows here guys
SNOW

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 14:14
Endpoint
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PM me bro

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:38
Andrew_Squirrel
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I keep forgetting to pick up some cleats for these guys. Excited to try them this fall/winter.
Kinda bummed there isn't buckles and I need to adjust to slow lace-up life but I will survive.
Will review soon.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:33
Endpoint
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Lace up means easier to install gaiters so there's that

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:47
Lowrey'sOrgan
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I'm guessing slow lace life is better than slow "put on five layers of footwear" life

as for shoe covers, the quality on my Castelli neoprene is way worse than I expected, but they haven't fallen off my feet yet so I'm still using them. I like the Velcro since nobody ever makes their zipper closures big enough for my powr ankles

DQ: recommend me winter shoes for wide feets ("high volume" is what they're calling it now?). I could get by with socks + MTB shoes + winter booties to 5* or so, but mornings are pretty regularly colder than that and I don't want to do boots + platforms anymore if I can avoid it.

alternatively: recommendations for better winter socks than my bongrater wool whatevers

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:31
rauce
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Northwave makes a winter shoe and their fit is pretty "high volume" especially in the toe box.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:38
joy of vaping
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i just wear winter boots with flat pedals

is that bad?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 22:52
emor
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Every shoe cover I've used has lasted 2 months at most, but I've never spent more than $40. Nowadays I just HTFU on my way into work and change my socks when I get there. It doesn't get that cold here.

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 23:19
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #28)

joy of tarcking wrote:
i just wear winter boots with flat pedals

is that bad?

I drool over fancy winter shoes but this is my plan as well. Worked pretty okay last year.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 23:24
that guy
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(Reply to #29)

Endpoint wrote:
If you don't own winter shoes you are seriously missing the boat.

QFT

In awesome beautiful Pittsburgh winters I never even looked at overshoes. For commuting or mountain biking it's winter shoes or GTFO. Maybe too bulky for fast road-type riding but that's not my jam anyway.

I have a pair of the Mavic boots and they are super warm (fat sock is good down to about zero) and priced competitively. Just be sure to try them on with big socks. My xc Mavic shoes are 45 and the boots are 48.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 02:50
that guy
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(Reply to #30)

Lowrey'sOrgan wrote:

DQ: recommend me winter shoes for wide feets

Look into Vittoria. They do three widths, two volumes, and will match any upper to any sole in the lineup if you ask nicely. They have a winter boot too, though I've not tried it.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 02:53
GrandmaJordan
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(Reply to #31)

that guy wrote:
Endpoint wrote:
If you don't own winter shoes you are seriously missing the boat.

QFT

In awesome beautiful Pittsburgh winters I never even looked at overshoes. For commuting or mountain biking it's winter shoes or GTFO. Maybe too bulky for fast road-type riding but that's not my jam anyway.

I have a pair of the Mavic boots and they are super warm (fat sock is good down to about zero) and priced competitively. Just be sure to try them on with big socks. My xc Mavic shoes are 45 and the boots are 48.

I'm potentially interested in winter shoes, but wonder if anyone has used them for road riding/training? That's what I need something for - my long, often wet winter training rides, so boots and flat pedals, or mtb shoes won't do it.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 11:01
imoscardotcom
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that would be my only use too ^

the northwave winter road shoes are...tempting

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 11:16
Recumbentist
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(Reply to #33)

GrandmaJordan wrote:
that guy wrote:
Endpoint wrote:
If you don't own winter shoes you are seriously missing the boat.

QFT

In awesome beautiful Pittsburgh winters I never even looked at overshoes. For commuting or mountain biking it's winter shoes or GTFO. Maybe too bulky for fast road-type riding but that's not my jam anyway.

I have a pair of the Mavic boots and they are super warm (fat sock is good down to about zero) and priced competitively. Just be sure to try them on with big socks. My xc Mavic shoes are 45 and the boots are 48.

I'm potentially interested in winter shoes, but wonder if anyone has used them for road riding/training? That's what I need something for - my long, often wet winter training rides, so boots and flat pedals, or mtb shoes won't do it.

Yes. I pretty much wear my Northwaves from Dec to April. I'm not training, but I spend plenty of 10+ hour days in the saddle in <40 degrees with rain as well as sub-zero weather. They have a standard 3-bolt cleat attachment.

Whatever you do don't get SIDI "winter" boots. They are completely ineffective in keeping out water/keeping your feet reasonably warm. I have a virtually new set sitting in the closet that I only wore a few times because they suck.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 11:59
eric_ssucks
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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 12:36
ryker

Anybody tried the Shimano cold/wet weather shoes - SH-MW81?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 12:55
Recumbentist
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Aren't those two-bolt only?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:00
GrandmaJordan
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Thanks! Those Vittorias look good, as do those Northwaves. Might hold off a year, since for now, I can get shopbro deal on shoe covers, but not on either of those brands of shoes, I don't think. They're definitely in my consciousness now, though.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:00
yummygooey
Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:00
ryker
(Reply to #39)

ryker wrote:
Anybody tried the Shimano cold/wet weather shoes - SH-MW81?

fergs wrote:
Aren't those two-bolt only?

Yeah I ride two-bolt errywhere so that's why I'm interested in those. And brodeal pricing.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:05
lukasz
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(Reply to #40)

GrandmaJordan wrote:
that guy wrote:
Endpoint wrote:
If you don't own winter shoes you are seriously missing the boat.

QFT

In awesome beautiful Pittsburgh winters I never even looked at overshoes. For commuting or mountain biking it's winter shoes or GTFO. Maybe too bulky for fast road-type riding but that's not my jam anyway.

I have a pair of the Mavic boots and they are super warm (fat sock is good down to about zero) and priced competitively. Just be sure to try them on with big socks. My xc Mavic shoes are 45 and the boots are 48.

I'm potentially interested in winter shoes, but wonder if anyone has used them for road riding/training? That's what I need something for - my long, often wet winter training rides, so boots and flat pedals, or mtb shoes won't do it.

Could just put spd pedals (or whatever your non-road bike uses) on your road bike in the winter and buy one pair of winter shoes. I don't know what your bike stable looks like though.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:22
aerobear
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My roommate has the mavic winter road shoes (frost) for road/3 bolt and he seems to like them pretty good.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 15:37
akasnowmaaan
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I'm looking for the best winter clothing strategy - and I sweat a lot.

Last weekend I did a loooong ride in cold fall weather - it was single-digit centigrade, I held out well with a Showers Pass rain coat, jersey/bibs, and light wool arm warmers/leggings and shoe covers - but I think we're getting too cold for that now.

What complicates it is although I've lost a bunch of weight and continue losing - the pants I bought just as I moved to Stockholm are basically falling off - I'm still too big for almost all cycling gear. You just don't have the wide variety of clothing vendors in Sweden as you have in the 'states. I'm considering getting some custom clothing made.

So, I guess I'm looking for:
- Basic clothing strategy for a prodigious sweater in freezing conditions
- Best cold weather / wet weather shoe strategy - covers? Full-on winter shoes?
- Best glove style / brand?
-

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 15:48
lukasz
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Are you talking mainly about pants?

I bet your jacket (eVent, right?) will suit you well with the right layers underneath. Yes get some damn winter shoes or even regular boots and platforms cuz you're in SWEDEN, MAN (alternatively, take up XC skiing because that is 1000000000x funner than cycling in the winter).

Get some lobster claw gloves and make sure that they're not too small. Luckily you're in the right part of the world to easily find those: http://yoko.fi/products/ywg-40-lobster/

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 15:55
asterisk
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I think the only answer for heavy sweat + cold conditions is layers of wool, hopefully enough to wick the sweat away without getting cold. I'd start there for upper body. Same for shoes... winter boots + wood wool socks.
edit: swing and a miss.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 16:02
lukasz
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(Reply to #45)

asterisk wrote:
I think the only answer for heavy sweat + cold conditions is layers of wool, hopefully enough to wick the sweat away without getting cold. I'd start there for upper body. Same for shoes... winter boots + wood socks.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 16:17
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #46)

asterisk wrote:
I think the only answer for heavy sweat + cold conditions is layers of wool, hopefully enough to wick the sweat away without getting cold. I'd start there for upper body. Same for shoes... winter boots + wood socks.

This is the thing I want to work on this year. Last year, baselayer + 2 merino wool sweaters + wind jacket kept me warm, but I was still pretty sweaty. That's not the end of the world, but I feel like maybe I could set it up so I wouldn't sweat? I worry that without the wind layer that I'd get too cold but I guess it's worth a shot.

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 16:27
eric_ssucks
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The vest or on of those windproof bib thingies is my idea of what to do about windy times. A warm core keeps your extremities warm, and you ventilate easily. Avoid the sweat lodge that is full rain gear.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 16:51
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #48)

lukasz wrote:
(alternatively, take up XC skiing because that is 1000000000x funner than cycling in the winter)

I will try, but my knee joints are shit. Two surgeries on the left knee, lots of cartilage missing and loose cruciate. Tendon damage on the right. Right ankle isn't that great either due to tennis injuries and hyperextensions. But yeah, I'll give it a try.

That said, this is the kind of cycling I have in mind:

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 16:58
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #49)

lukasz wrote:
I bet your jacket (eVent, right?)

Dunno. Decent in moderate rain, but gets overwhelmed in heavy rain. Thinking of getting some of the spray-on waterproofing to augment it.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 17:02
lukasz
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I'm pretty sure XC skiing is as low impact as cycling as long as you don't bust your ass in some strange way. Man I'd totally do some fat bike racing. Not thinking about getting hurt falling means a lot of room for yolo.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 17:02

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