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hamb3ik
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Grease the area where the spring contacts the arm.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:59
liquify
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(Reply to #52)

buffoon wrote:
The tektro 926al are awesome at 80mm.

Backed. loved them on my casseroll, and somehow it worked with fenders underneath.

Doesn't look like ec90 fork and 8.4s play with fenders well. Really, the fork doesn't do fenders well on its own.
race cross frames don't play well with fenders. who'd a guessed it?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:33
buffoon
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They are not really different from other brakes. Grease the posts; set the spring tension high if things are sticky; bend the springs for gross adjustments; set the housing the right length so it doesn't push one arm around.

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:54
Petr5
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Right, to answer the OP. It's called shartlife now.

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Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:24
crowding
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(Reply to #55)

VT regularbike wrote:
It bugs the shit out of me that the pads don't hit the rim at the same time.

This is the one irksome thing, it doesn't hardly self center. Think it's down to the acute angle the straddle makes with the brake arm, plus static friction in the pulley. No effect on performance to I resolve to ngaf

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:42
donks
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is an 11 speed campy crankset alright with 10 speed bits? if so, 10 or 11 speed chain?

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 04:37
imoscardotcom
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yes, and chain should match cassette

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 11:40
lukasz
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(Reply to #58)

crowding wrote:
VT regularbike wrote:
It bugs the shit out of me that the pads don't hit the rim at the same time.

This is the one irksome thing, it doesn't hardly self center. Think it's down to the acute angle the straddle makes with the brake arm, plus static friction in the pulley. No effect on performance to I resolve to ngaf

That's surprising. When I used such cursed brakes I found this to contribute to squealing under hard braking.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 11:42
numberwang

I have a c-record crankset with 7mm self-extracting bolts and a 7mm allen wrench. Is it possible for me to apply the 32-38Nm of torque that's specified for it, or should I take it to someone competent?

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 23:46
Patch
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My circus monkey cassette body shat the bed. Anyone know where to get a new one?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:45
rauce
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I rolled the dice and got one from velo orange since their hubs looked the same, worked fine.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 21:41
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #62)

Patch wrote:
My circus monkey cassette body shat the bed. Anyone know where to get a new one?

if it's Campy you need, I have one that should work

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Wed, 01/07/2015 - 22:32
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #63)

rauce wrote:
I rolled the dice and got one from velo orange since their hubs looked the same, worked fine.

I remember thinking that they appeared to be identical (because cheap Chinese stuff) when they were initially introduced. Looked to be the same freehub as a first-generation (wired) PowerTap, as well.

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Thu, 01/08/2015 - 00:52
Patch
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Shit. I think I need an axle too.

Sun, 01/11/2015 - 10:05
rauce
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At that point it's easier and possibly cheaper to get a new hub.

Sun, 01/11/2015 - 13:18
feta lightning
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Would skinwalls looks dope or wack on this bike? What about on belgians vs deep carpet fibers?

Sun, 01/11/2015 - 23:33
NOVELTYNAME
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Slam 73deg stem, slam saddle, belgiums and gumwalls yes

"Folks want options!"

Sun, 01/11/2015 - 23:34
feta lightning
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(Reply to #68)

Moncler Puffy Vest wrote:
Slam 73deg stem, slam saddle, belgiums and gumwalls yes

oppo slam saddle? Otherwise yes to all those things. Plus campy and deep classic dorps. Also, it's alloy. Take that CAAD10!

Sun, 01/11/2015 - 23:38
cheese
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I think gumwalls always look nice on mostly greyscale frames.

Mon, 01/12/2015 - 01:45
b-roll
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Shimano historical part DQ:

Ultegra 6500 STI replacement hoods--are they all gone? Are there other model hoods that will work?
Seems like Flight Deck was the big difference from other hood versions which I can actually find. And who ever used Flight Deck?

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:55
Blakey
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9sp ultegra STI only shares with 9sp 105. No DA or tiagra. Flight deck doesn't matter, it just adds buttons to the hoods (there was a version of the levers with and without FD).

Part# Y-6BZ 98090 is what you want. Trawl ebay for remaining NOS units.

Tiagra #Y-6LP 98070 definitely doesn't fit:

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:06
b-roll
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Thanks!

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 11:13
LurkeyLurkerson

Is it foolish to sell my 7800 group to get a new 5800 group? I'd really like the 52/36 mid compact and I love the black.

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 10:54
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Coworker did just that, and immediately regretted it.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 11:03
bward1028

Just buy the cranks

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 11:14
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #76)

cheese wrote:
I think gumwalls always look nice on mostly greyscale frames.

Gumwalls look like shit with black parts and/or black alloy rims with machined braking surface.

atmo of course

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 12:57
Endpoint
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(Reply to #77)

bonechilling wrote:
Coworker did just that, and immediately regretted it.

Yeah... unless that 7800 shit is clapped the fuck out it's going to work better.

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 21:01
randsome beast
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Hated LA and hated the look of 7800 when it came out. 9000 is better right?

emor wrote:
RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 22:13
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Nah, 7800 is the high water mark for Shimano. 9000 is amazing, for sure, but 7800 is basically flawless.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 22:23
NOVELTYNAME
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I like the hood shape of 7900 and 9000
Just sayin

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 22:43
randsome beast
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Another forty or fifty thousand miles on 6700 and I'll look at this problem again. Your view may be impartial but it is appreciated.

Keep getting this idea they are going to do a breakout 9000+ mech group like they did with 6600. Just to show off basically.

emor wrote:
RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 22:48
turpencat
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(Reply to #82)

Moncler Puffy Vest wrote:
I like the hood shape of 7900 and 9000
Just sayin

I like old red better than new red.
I am probably the only one.
I like the big flat spot on 7800 though. It needs to be paired with the perfect bar.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sat, 02/07/2015 - 23:56
Endpoint
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10s Force with 6600 front derailleur. Best all around mechanical group there is when you factor in performance, cost, and ergonomics.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 10:09
Sneaky Viking
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(Reply to #84)

Endpoint wrote:
What you know about that?

Hey I know all about that!

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 12:30
bobbythehawk
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(Reply to #85)

bonechilling wrote:
Coworker did just that, and immediately regretted it.

I've almost sold my 7800 for 6800 a few times

pretty sure 7800 is better then that, too. Only ridden 6800 with OEM spec'ed 11-32 cassettes tho so idk if there are big gains in feel with closer cog sizing?

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 14:16
feta lightning
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Plus short cage to mid cage danglers.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 14:48
curiousincident
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Endpoint wrote:
10s Force with 6600 front derailleur. Best all around mechanical group there is when you factor in performance, cost, and ergonomics.

it is good stuff

that said i'm at least as happy with my 11sp so far, shift real good on 6800 crank and happy to have a free 28t cog

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 16:17
randsome beast
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Get that sRMA sympathizing out of here. The day has finally dawned and civilization now sees it for what it is, what it always was.

emor wrote:
RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 16:29
Endpoint
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Nah dog... Shimano may work longer but with increased mediocrity.

Plus I will always have hate for Shimano for constantly jacking with cable pull ratios. Sram shit may break too often but at least they are not actively trolling bike mechanics.

Rapid fire triple mtb shifter, Rapid fire triple road flat bar shifter. Different pull. Fuck you.
Alivio T4000 (which does work great for how cheap it is). Several different front derailleurs optimized for differently geared triples that won't work properly together. Fuck you.
Dynasys? I don't care how sweet the clutch is. Stop jacking cable pull. Fuck you.
7800 vs 7900 front derailleurs. Fuck you.
7800 and 6600 shifters that love to shear off shift cable heads. Fuck you.
How incredibly MEH 2nd gen 10s and 11s shifting is with out $15 cables? Fuck you.
Direct mount rear brakes. Fuck you.
Lack of support for 1st gen Di2. Fuck you.
Only offering top shelf rotors in centerlock. Fuck you.

Don't get me wrong... I love XT 10s on my mountain bikes, current di2 is a godsend for fucked up tri bikes and their fucked up riders, and I will ONLY ever run their chains and cassettes but Shimano is WAY worse from a shop perspective.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:00
turpencat
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my 11sp force has been immaculate.
it was stupid quick to setup. way less fussy than my 10sp durace

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 19:33
Rentable Faxmachine
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I've ridden Force 22, Rival 22, CX1, Apex, and X9 for the past year or so. Zero problems. For me, DoubleTap levers are ideal.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 20:28
rauce
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I've had 5600, 6600, 7800, Centaur 10s, Veloce 10 -> 8spd shimergo, 5700, 6770 di2 and 6800 on my personal bikes. I've ridden force 10spd on a demo for quite a few miles as well.

7800 was smooth but I didn't like the front shifting or the hood shape.

Centaur 10spd with the good internals was rad but freehub/cassette shit was a drag

5700 hoods kill my hands and the shifting has been meh at best.

6770 was unreal, best ergonomics with the levers I've ever experienced and phenomenal shifting. I thought I could never go back until I test road a bike with 6800.

6800 is amazing, ergonomics are good and shifting is great but it does require more tweaking than di2.

Force 10spd is probably the worst modern road groupset I've ever ridden.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 21:38
hiljentaa
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And here I am, still riding this 20 year old Campy 9 speed bullshit.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 22:12
The RTS
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(Reply to #94)

hiljentaa wrote:
And here I am, still riding this 20 year old Campy 9 speed bullshit.

Shit - I got 8 Speed Campy I bought in 95 that still works good.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 22:49
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #95)

Endpoint wrote:
Plus I will always have hate for Shimano for constantly jacking with cable pull ratios. Sram shit may break too often but at least they are not actively trolling bike mechanics.

Rapid fire triple mtb shifter, Rapid fire triple road flat bar shifter. Different pull. Fuck you.
Dynasys? I don't care how sweet the clutch is. Stop jacking cable pull. Fuck you.
How incredibly MEH 2nd gen 10s and 11s shifting is with out $15 cables? Fuck you.
Only offering top shelf rotors in centerlock. Fuck you.

Road and mountain front shifters have had different cable pulls since the front indexing began. Shimano's fix is to offer road-sized pushers for any mtb shifters, SRAM's is to offer special flat bar road shifters

Dynasys pull is awesome for stealing the one valid SRAM innovation and making it actually work

those cables are fucking amazing tho, and nobody has to suffer the 7900 era problems anymore

centerlock is best

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 22:58
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #96)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
centerlock is best

I wish there were more than 2 32h rear road hub options

"Folks want options!"

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 23:12
curiousincident
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(Reply to #97)

Endpoint wrote:
Nah dog... Shimano may work longer but with increased mediocrity.

Plus I will always have hate for Shimano for constantly jacking with cable pull ratios. Sram shit may break too often but at least they are not actively trolling bike mechanics.

Rapid fire triple mtb shifter, Rapid fire triple road flat bar shifter. Different pull. Fuck you.
Alivio T4000 (which does work great for how cheap it is). Several different front derailleurs optimized for differently geared triples that won't work properly together. Fuck you.
Dynasys? I don't care how sweet the clutch is. Stop jacking cable pull. Fuck you.
7800 vs 7900 front derailleurs. Fuck you.
7800 and 6600 shifters that love to shear off shift cable heads. Fuck you.
How incredibly MEH 2nd gen 10s and 11s shifting is with out $15 cables? Fuck you.
Direct mount rear brakes. Fuck you.
Lack of support for 1st gen Di2. Fuck you.
Only offering top shelf rotors in centerlock. Fuck you.

Don't get me wrong... I love XT 10s on my mountain bikes, current di2 is a godsend for fucked up tri bikes and their fucked up riders, and I will ONLY ever run their chains and cassettes but Shimano is WAY worse from a shop perspective.

man, all this so hard.

Sun, 02/08/2015 - 23:36
Endpoint
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(Reply to #98)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
Road and mountain front shifters have had different cable pulls since the front indexing began. Shimano's fix is to offer road-sized pushers for any mtb shifters, SRAM's is to offer special flat bar road shifters

Dynasys pull is awesome for stealing the one valid SRAM innovation and making it actually work

those cables are fucking amazing tho, and nobody has to suffer the 7900 era problems anymore

centerlock is best

Road vs mtb front pushers: yeah, and that shit is dumb

Dynasys pulls: yeah it's so good the rest of their shit should share it like sram

Cables: no doubt. So good their mediocre shifters rely on them. Dumb.

Centerlock: I like everything about it that is good but it all goes to shit because most hub makers don't use it and more importantly those that do still can't get the tolerances tight enough to allow for wheel swaps half the time. Same hub, same rotor, gotta adjust brakes? That's some bullshit. I'll take a 6 bolt hub I can properly shim to make wheel changes fast any day.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 00:01
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Bullshit. Shimano changes things and does things the way that they do because they're way fucking smart engineers who are constantly figuring out better ways to make bikes work. Sorry if you're sad that they didn't include an upgrade path to their magical shifting with perfect ergonomics and impeccable braking. 'Guess you'll just have to sell some more high quality bikes, or ride some shitty SRAM drivetrain with a bunch of cobbled-together parts to make it work acceptably.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:30
buffoon
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WTH is this dentistforum.com??

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 01:40

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