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guccipolo
(Reply to #801)

shane.rrr wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbKMUd5B-me/

Heated handlebars! This looks amazing. Imagine if you could tie that system into a dyno

Had a customer who wanted to try this with battery power. I almost convinced him to power it with a dyno, but he didn't quite get it. He's also doing this to keep his hands warm on his walmart fixed gear while doing Caviar deliveries.

Sun, 11/12/2017 - 12:27
cousinmosquito
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I had no idea that a 9 speed power-link would work on 10 speed chain. I guess I imagined the pins were of different diameters. I am not going stress about carrying 3 different size power-links quite so much anymore. The things you learn as your eyesight degrades.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:06
crowding
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no noise or engagement/shifting troubles?

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:24
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #804)

crowding wrote:
no noise or engagement/shifting troubles?

Not a whisper. Smooth as. I only noticed it was the wrong one when I went to shorten the chain. Not something I would do on purpose, but I'm pretty sure it would get me home.

I've (eventually) diagnosed several drivetrain "clicks" in the past that were the result of a sloppy power-link but they were on quite worn chains, and they were actually the right size joiners, but could well have been a KMC or a SRAM joiner on a shimano chain or whatever combo. I do tend to re-use power-links regardless of whether or not they are supposed to be reused.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:34
Viggen
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Carrying one or two 9sp quick links in your trail kit around here is essential, save any one's ride home or down the mountain if a link decides to go bust on pretty much any chain.

Saved a new found friend that way in Slovenia 3 hours into a full day of trail riding. I suspect his 11sp chain still has that 9sp quick link on there with no issue.

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Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:47
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #806)

Heh heh. Yeah hot tip. I've saved plenty of assess too. I don't go anywhere without at least a couple of power links and boot and patch kit. And tube of course. But eye-balling tubes can be difficult so I default to a 26 minimum which fits most. Not tried to stuff a 29er in a 26. I guess it would work?

More wonderful than you can believe it

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:52
kmcdon
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(Reply to #807)

cousinmosquito wrote:
Not tried to stuff a 29er in a 26. I guess it would work?

It can but you gotta be real careful not to twist it or anything, else it might pop inside the tire. It's janky as fuck but it can be done.

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:55
jdsmooth
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I've also mingled 9s quicklinks with 10s chains. My last mtb chain went 2000km that way with no issue.
Totally into saving/reusing quicklinks for repairs.

Five-foot drops at speed on unstable terrain? Yep.

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:57
Shortpants
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I have never once thought of carrying a masterlink on me. Granted I still mostly ride track bikes and 1/8" chains are beefy but you'd think that with it being the only means of stopping/not dying this would have occurred to me before.

Have I been doing it wrong the whole time and should stuff a masterlink in my tool roll? Both for 1/8" and I guess 10speed?

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 03:45
ergott
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I keep a link in my bag. Small enough

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 07:53
jdsmooth
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It's easy to stash some quicklinks + spare links in the bar ends. Also have zip-tied to seat rail and cable housings.
My chains tend to snap in the woods amongst rocks. I did break two on the road, but never a 1/8 or 6-7-8s.

Five-foot drops at speed on unstable terrain? Yep.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 13:02
kmcdon
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(Reply to #812)

jdsmooth wrote:
It's easy to stash some quicklinks + spare links in the bar ends. Also have zip-tied to seat rail and cable housings.
My chains tend to snap in the woods amongst rocks. I did break two on the road, but never a 1/8 or 6-7-8s.

Most of my chain failures are on mtb. I've got like 3 quick links in my pugsley chain.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 13:18
Shortpants
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I was working on a bike the other day and the guy had a quicklink taped to his cable housing.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 13:40
Todd
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I need to start doing this.
I can recall 3 times in the last couple of years that I have broken chains and put them back together out in the dirt with a crankbrothers multi-tool and lots of swearing.

also, fuck breaking chains, omg my knees hurt just thinking about it. Injury induced patellar tendinitis at lest once a year over here.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 13:48
NOVELTYNAME
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I always have a quicklink in my rando bag. Right next to emergency blanket and first aid kit.

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 14:57
joy of vaping
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A quicklink is also useful to turn your bike into a shitty singlespeed to get home when you break your dangler on a rock

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:12
mander
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Quick link goes in the patch kit, next to the spoke wrench with a nipple taped to it.

In related news, I was replacing a rim and noticed it was Schrader drilled . I had been derpily putting presta valves in that thing long enough to wear it out from braking. So, maybe that's not a big deal.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:24
Andrew_Squirrel
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In quick-link storage news did anyone see this one yet?

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:48
NOVELTYNAME
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Decent.

Now if it’s competitively priced (compared to lezyne or birzman) it’s probably worth having

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:53
shane.rrr
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I have the Crank Brother M19 multitool. I like it and have never had any issues

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 16:31
Gary Fissure

Protip, if you're gonna bring a quick link, bring a small shitty chain tool too. It sucks trying to bang a pin out with a rock.

mander wrote:
And what if the part is, like, just a nut? *huge bong rip*

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 16:56
cousinmosquito
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My multi-tool tool is a lezyne and its been great, I don't leave the house without that either. That and horizontal drop-outs once saved my arse 3 days into a very hilly 5 day dirt brevet. I guess the minimum distance I ride is about an hour so if I break my chain I am pretty much stuffed without a quick link. I've never done the first aid kit thing. I don't know why. Probably just been lucky. I should think about it for longer rides.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:07
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #823)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
Protip, if you're gonna bring a quick link, bring a small shitty chain tool too. It sucks trying to bang a pin out with a rock.

Hell yeah. A power-link by itself is not gonna fix much. Luckily small shitty chain tools come by default in multi-tools. Some of them you can take off the multi-tool if you are that weenery.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:10
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I wouldn’t even consider a multitool which doesn’t have a built-in chain breaker. After flat tires, it’s literally the most common form of trail or roadside failure.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:20
motorbacon
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Syncros multitool/bottle cage has magnets to hold the quick links. So good.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:11
Gary Fissure
(Reply to #826)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
I wouldn’t even consider a multitool which doesn’t have a built-in chain breaker. After flat tires, it’s literally the most common form of trail or roadside failure.

I haven't bought a multi tool in at least 10 years. In that time, I've accumulated a couple from seat bags of bikes I've bought. None have chain tools.

mander wrote:
And what if the part is, like, just a nut? *huge bong rip*

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 20:00
mdilthey
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Thanks for reminding me to buy a second chain-breaker-multitool for my other bike

26/M/41t N/W

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 21:41
lukasz
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i like that blackburn!

Sun, 11/19/2017 - 20:26
Patch
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looks good, but I really do not get L-shaped allen keys on a multitool. When are they an improvement?

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 04:24
jimmythefly
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I can think of a few tight places where they are useful, especially on multitools with big fat bodies. Certain MTB brake lever adjustments. FD clamp bolts. Some bottle cage screws. Rear fender attachment near the BB.

On that Blackburn tool one of the L is needed for using the quick link separator.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 05:59
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #831)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
Though QBP lists it as being compatible with "Shimano/SRAM 11 Speed Road", supposedly the new Sunrace RS3 11-speed 11-32 cassette will be compatible with 10 speed freehubs. It's not available until late November, though. FW2179

It appears as though I was correct.

Sunrace wrote:
Sun Race RS3 11-Speed Cassette
The SunRace RS3 11-speed cassette will work on a traditional 9/10-speed Shimano compatible freehub body allowing you to update your drivetrain with out the need to purchase a new set of wheels. The Sun Race RS3 cassette is compatible with SRAM and Shimano drivetrains. Included with the SunRace RS3 cassette is a steel lockring.

If you are going to use the SunRace RS3 11-speed cassette on a bike that has an 11-speed road freehub body you will need to use a spacer.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 12/02/2017 - 20:38
Endpoint
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Nice.

Been slinging Sun Race cassettes since Outpost opened overall good feels.

Mid level stuff doesn’t seem to be quite a durable as Shimano but it shifts just fine.

This new jibber jabber will come in handy I’m sure.

Sat, 12/02/2017 - 21:19
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #833)

Endpoint wrote:
This new jibber jabber will come in handy I’m sure.

Exactly. Not really anything to get excited about, but it's extremely useful to know that this is out there for ~$50. I have laying around three different pairs of Shimano 9 or 10 speed wheels, which between this and the HG800, have moved from dinosaurs legacy wheels I needed to sell quickly, to cross-compatible with the three different major modern drivetrains.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 12/02/2017 - 21:28
Endpoint
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For better or for worse King ISO and Industry 9 trail wheels are now 11 speed road compatible. As a owner of both that’s a win.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 09:15
liquify
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This^, at least for sups trail wheels and tubulars built coz wanted to keep same hubs. (why I was stoked on Shimano on, for sure)
Not sure we really race cross anymore, though.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 11:34
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I had no idea that King and I9 were so behind the times, but for me the real cool thing is the ability to take something like an old XTR 9-speed hub and repurpose it for an 11 speed drivetrain.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 11:59
Gary Fissure

I don't think they're currently behind the times, just there's a lot of behind the times product floating around.
(I also have King classics that are now no longer obsolete!)

mander wrote:
And what if the part is, like, just a nut? *huge bong rip*

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 12:29
liquify
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(Reply to #838)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
I had no idea that King and I9 were so behind the times, but for me the real cool thing is the ability to take something like an old XTR 9-speed hub and repurpose it for an 11 speed drivetrain.

i9 made 11s disc at the time, but I wanted one of the wheel sets with colorful spokes as an engagment thing (120pts of engagement), which was mtb only. Thus only 10s shimano or xd driver, the latter of which wasn't compatible with her 2x11 shimano/worth the effort to make work at the time. Matchy-match makes you do weird things, but it appears the universe is saying it will all balance out now.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 12:53
iwillbe
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(Reply to #839)

liquify wrote:
Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
I had no idea that King and I9 were so behind the times, but for me the real cool thing is the ability to take something like an old XTR 9-speed hub and repurpose it for an 11 speed drivetrain.

i9 made 11s disc at the time, but I wanted one of the wheel sets with colorful spokes as an engagment thing (120pts of engagement), which was mtb only. Thus only 10s shimano or xd driver, the latter of which wasn't compatible with her 2x11 shimano/worth the effort to make work at the time. Matchy-match makes you do weird things, but it appears the universe is saying it will all balance out now.

I'm glad i9 finally got that together, I emailed them a year and a half asking about 11sp Shimano road compatability, and they were working on it then. I was looking for an alternative to CK, which has some labor issues and also their new disc hubsets are 800 entire dollars. Luckily, someone clued me into DT350 as a good (if drab) alternative, and two wheelsets later, they're plugging along just fine.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 14:13
mdilthey
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Heard a good tip from my buddy Rob today. Apparently the gloves used by refrigerator/freezer technicians are great for winter cycling and they're super cheap:

https://www.refrigiwear.com/category/all-gloves

https://www.amazon.com/RefrigiWear-Waterproof-Insulated-Dexterity-Gloves/dp/B00ODHHCDO/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1512344522&sr=8-10&keywords=refrigiwear

26/M/41t N/W

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 18:40
yonderboy
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I don't know if this is a secret. I searched with the Googles and found nothing...
I was trying to fish the cable housing for my dropper and dangler on the MTB today. I got fed up with the guess and poke method and took a shot at using my Harbor Freight nylon fish tape.
The eyelets are roughly the same size as a cable ferrule, so it fit through the holes in the frame. I took a piece of electrical tape and folded it lengthwise, sticky side out, and threaded it through the eyelet to attach the cable to the tape. You can't tug hard on it, but it works well enough.

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 21:22
Face
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I've heard of using light string and a shop vac to run internal cables, never used the method myself though because the one bike I own with internal routing was taken care of by my LBSbro and the fancy park magnet tool.

Basic idea is you feed the light string into one hole and hold the shop vac hose over the hole you want it to come out of. Tie it to the cable and pull.

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Mon, 12/04/2017 - 10:25
Tail Hook Lengthener
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The Park IR tool is absolutely essential. Jobs which uses to take a half an hour now take two minutes.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 10:44
euclid
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I've used baling wire instead of cable. Put a bend (45* or so) in the end of the wire so it hugs the side of the tube and it'll pop out the exit a lot more easily than a floppy cable. Slide housing over wire once it's in place, pull out wire, add cable.

Probably not a secret though.

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 10:57
Rentable Faxmachine
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Max, those gloves look dope.

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 11:00
motorbacon
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Park IR1 makes life so easy. Used to use bailey wire when Park magnets weren't a thing.

Now there's a lot of frames that are literally impossible to work on without magnets.

Tue, 12/05/2017 - 02:16
Rentable Faxmachine
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[Insert ICP magnet reference here.]

Tue, 12/05/2017 - 11:02
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #848)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
Though QBP lists it as being compatible with "Shimano/SRAM 11 Speed Road", supposedly the new Sunrace RS3 11-speed 11-32 cassette will be compatible with 10 speed freehubs. It's not available until late November, though. FW2179

It appears as though I was correct.

Sunrace wrote:
Sun Race RS3 11-Speed Cassette
The SunRace RS3 11-speed cassette will work on a traditional 9/10-speed Shimano compatible freehub body allowing you to update your drivetrain with out the need to purchase a new set of wheels. The Sun Race RS3 cassette is compatible with SRAM and Shimano drivetrains. Included with the SunRace RS3 cassette is a steel lockring.

If you are going to use the SunRace RS3 11-speed cassette on a bike that has an 11-speed road freehub body you will need to use a spacer.

In stock at QBP. FW2179. Ordering one tomorrow for my cobbled-together Trek, with the SR parts Ferg generously gave me, and a bunch of other weird shit I had laying around. Will report soon.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 12/05/2017 - 23:14
Rusty Piton
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Will that fit the XT hub on my endpoint?
Or should i just buy an 11 speed mtb cassette for that thing?
Currently running 10 of 11 road cassette on mtb hub.

emor wrote:
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Thu, 12/07/2017 - 10:38
liquify
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Yes, that sunrace or the Shimano HG-800 11-Speed 11-34t Cassette (which would likely be more expensive, as cost is nearly 3x the sunrace).

Dang, they need to correct it on QBP to reflect that it is compatible with 9/10s freehubs.

Thu, 12/07/2017 - 12:24

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