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mdilthey
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(Reply to #751)

iwillbe wrote:
This might be less of a secret than a thing that few people have much use for, but:
if you're using double stembags, you can connect the sub straps to each other and then cinch them down instead of running the straps under the fork crown. No wiggling, looks a little cleaner.

Yo, this is a fucking revelation.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 10/07/2017 - 16:28
iwillbe
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And also, per a video Revelate had to make because I, like everyone who buys feedbags, am apparently dumber than hell: you strap the big velcro on the handlebar, thin strap on the stem. Makes each bag sit way more flush to the bar, freeing up a cm or two of space for your knees to come thru when you're out of the saddle, and positions the pull cords for even more easy one handed use.

Revelate doesn't make the prettiest bags, but their materials and thoughtulness of construction is impressive as hell. they're like the Ortlieb of bikepacking stuff.

Sat, 10/07/2017 - 18:26
mdilthey
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For stem bags actually, I think the sleeper is Carsick Designs. $10 cheaper than everyone and much more thoughtfully constructed. I love the not-mesh side pockets for wrappers or toothbrush + paste, etc.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 10/07/2017 - 20:26
iwillbe
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I was just looking at their stuff! They made some well-received Xtracycle bags a few years ago, but now sell them exclusively through a shop in Seattle.

Sat, 10/07/2017 - 22:01
kmcdon
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https://www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/products/chuckbucket-handlebar-bag

I'm pretty happy with this. I will likely buy a second one to even it out.

Sun, 10/08/2017 - 23:57
iwillbe
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Stem bags / cozies have a low threshold for acceptable performance. Any company that can rise to the technical challenge of making a decent frame bag or enormous seat bag can probably turn out an ok cylinder with a drawcord/pucker top. The limiting factor for me is width, don't want to bump my knees every time I'm out of the saddle. I would be happy with deeper bags, but that's because I'm a giant and ride bikes with 210-240mm head tubes.

Mon, 10/09/2017 - 09:12
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Has anyone yet figured out exactly which is the best cheap climbing bag to get from Amazon/Alibaba/eBay?

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Mon, 10/09/2017 - 18:24
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #758)

mdilthey wrote:
For stem bags actually, I think the sleeper is Carsick Designs. $10 cheaper than everyone and much more thoughtfully constructed. I love the not-mesh side pockets for wrappers or toothbrush + paste, etc.

and a Tie Dye Print option!

just bought a pair: https://www.carsickdesigns.com/collections/goodie-bag/products/goodie-bag

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Mon, 10/09/2017 - 21:23
emor
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I fucking want that so bad. But I really don’t need it. But I love it.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Mon, 10/09/2017 - 21:54
shane.rrr
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I really want this bag but don't need to spend the money

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 08:24
johnasavoia
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(Reply to #761)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Has anyone yet figured out exactly which is the best cheap climbing bag to get from Amazon/Alibaba/eBay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tactical-Magazine-Utility-Drop-Dump-Pouch-Molle-Military-Ammo-Bag-Heavy-Duty-top-/201720755840?var=&hash=item2ef77e7680:m:mWPY5qc0Qd5Sb_BN-ulYprw
if you google around for the words magazine molle pouch you might find em a little cheaper here and there. I've got 3 of these at this point. They only tie down two places on the same side of the bag, but if you've got something for them to rest against (rando bag or basket or something) they're pretty great, really big (aka knee hitters)

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 08:28
Rusty Piton
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I love those surplus pouches. I've got two of them and they're damn near perfect. Someone with greater sewing skills than I could make them perfect with a couple easy modifications.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 09:45
iwillbe
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Tue, 10/10/2017 - 10:08
drwelby
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"molle bottle pouch" also gets you some decent stuff.

I have two of this one, they're pretty good except the bottom is mesh and I could see it blowing out before the rest of it.

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 10:12
Rusty Piton
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The one John posted fits a mini U which is awesome.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 11:19
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Though QBP lists it as being compatible with "Shimano/SRAM 11 Speed Road", supposedly the new Sunrace RS3 11-speed 11-32 cassette will be compatible with 10 speed freehubs. It's not available until late November, though. FW2179

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 00:40
sparksflyhigh
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Where did you learn this

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 04:38
lukasz
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(Reply to #768)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
mdilthey wrote:
For stem bags actually, I think the sleeper is Carsick Designs. $10 cheaper than everyone and much more thoughtfully constructed. I love the not-mesh side pockets for wrappers or toothbrush + paste, etc.

and a Tie Dye Print option!

just bought a pair: https://www.carsickdesigns.com/collections/goodie-bag/products/goodie-bag

You get yours yet Fred? Is it as large as, say, an outer shell? The only size measure outer shell provides is noting that it can fit a 1L nalgene. My ancient roadrunner bag can most definitely not.

http://www.outershelladventure.com/shop/7826r9hyzpjknnobe479ebu35yse8v

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 10:53
Perlhammered
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That Carsick is the same as the one I have, unless they've updated the design at all. The only limitation vs the Roadrunner, that I've found, is that not having any sort of structure to the bag makes it nearly impossible to access while riding, as well as it being more likely to bounce around.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 10:58
lukasz
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Oh I'm talking about the Goodie Bag. I think you're talking about the bar bag.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 11:08
iwillbe
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Barrel bags are just generally bouncy without an elastic cord around the stem / headtube and some kind of internal structure. Banjo Brothers made a decent one a few years ago with both those things.

Stiffeners help, I have a couple of super cheap bags into which I put trimmed plastic boards (sold on Amazon as semi-disposable kitchen cutting boards), it made them less liable to swing around.

For about five years, I've had a back-burner project of making a barrel bag that's easy to access while riding. It's still in initial notes: "velcro pull tab? infinite daisy chain? ...magnets?"

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 11:12
Perlhammered
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(Reply to #772)

lukasz wrote:
Oh I'm talking about the Goodie Bag. I think you're talking about the bar bag.

Yup, you're right. My b

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 11:17
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #773)

sparksflyhigh wrote:
Where did you learn this

Bike industry chatter. The warranty guy at my work was on the phone with Suntour and it came up.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 11:39
JUGE FREDD
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I got the Carsick Designs feedbags, and yeah they're 1L naglene sized, a bit bigger than Revelate

they're pretty much unstructured, missing the layer of foam that makes other versions stand up

I already ordered an Outershell framebag in leopard print, might get one of their feedbags too

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 15:26
lukasz
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Oh sweet. I measured my old Roadrunner bag and it came out to the dimensions that Car Sick Designs gives on their site: 3.5" diameter and 6" cinched down, so I was wary of ordering it. The new revelate, the outer shell, and this one: https://www.mkt.com/yellowhaus/item/le-big-sack are much larger (the latter being the biggest).

If you get an Outer Shell feed bag, I'd love to hear about how they compare.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 15:39
Andrew_Squirrel
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Anyone seen any Red/Black X-Pac feedbags around? Surprisingly difficult to search for feedbags since many companies give them different non-generic names.
Looking to replace this dual road soda on my cycletruck since it seems to only work for cans and not things like waterbottle/keys/cell/wallet very well

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 16:04
joy of vaping
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The revelate ones are x-pac, and the new ones are actually operable one-handed.

Quote:
Weight: 3.7 oz
Materials: Revelate exclusive VX 21 polyurethane coated X-pac; 420 denier yellow lining

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 16:47
jeffro
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(Reply to #778)

iwillbe wrote:
Barrel bags are just generally bouncy without an elastic cord around the stem / headtube and some kind of internal structure. Banjo Brothers made a decent one a few years ago with both those things.

Stiffeners help, I have a couple of super cheap bags into which I put trimmed plastic boards (sold on Amazon as semi-disposable kitchen cutting boards), it made them less liable to swing around.

For about five years, I've had a back-burner project of making a barrel bag that's easy to access while riding. It's still in initial notes: "velcro pull tab? infinite daisy chain? ...magnets?"

Those plastic cutting mats are just right for making cheap mtb front mini fenders, the kind that zip tie to the legs and arch. Fuck paying real money for those.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 21:24
mdilthey
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Can I see another pic of that cycletruck?

26/M/41t N/W

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 22:05
Shortpants
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(Reply to #780)

iwillbe wrote:
Barrel bags are just generally bouncy without an elastic cord around the stem / headtube and some kind of internal structure. Banjo Brothers made a decent one a few years ago with both those things.

Stiffeners help, I have a couple of super cheap bags into which I put trimmed plastic boards (sold on Amazon as semi-disposable kitchen cutting boards), it made them less liable to swing around.

For about five years, I've had a back-burner project of making a barrel bag that's easy to access while riding. It's still in initial notes: "velcro pull tab? infinite daisy chain? ...magnets?"

I have a prototype I'm building utilizing purse snap magnets and a big lid type thing.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 00:43
circuithero
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(Reply to #781)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
Though QBP lists it as being compatible with "Shimano/SRAM 11 Speed Road", supposedly the new Sunrace RS3 11-speed 11-32 cassette will be compatible with 10 speed freehubs. It's not available until late November, though. FW2179

If you can find an 11spd shifter/freehub, the XT8000 11-34 cassette is now available. I forgot where the discussion started.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 02:18
johnasavoia
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(Reply to #782)

mdilthey wrote:
Can I see another pic of that cycletruck?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_squirrel/albums/72157630605454332

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 08:19
liquify
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(Reply to #783)

circuithero wrote:
Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
Though QBP lists it as being compatible with "Shimano/SRAM 11 Speed Road", supposedly the new Sunrace RS3 11-speed 11-32 cassette will be compatible with 10 speed freehubs. It's not available until late November, though. FW2179

If you can find an 11spd shifter/freehub, the XT8000 11-34 cassette is now available. I forgot where the discussion started.

It is CS-HG800 that is 11-34 and fits the 10s freehubs. XT CS-M8000 (mtb ones are doing 11-40/42/46), but would require too much fuckery for most people wanting the 11s upgrade.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 08:35
iwillbe
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(Reply to #784)

Shortpants wrote:
iwillbe wrote:
Barrel bags are just generally bouncy without an elastic cord around the stem / headtube and some kind of internal structure. Banjo Brothers made a decent one a few years ago with both those things.

Stiffeners help, I have a couple of super cheap bags into which I put trimmed plastic boards (sold on Amazon as semi-disposable kitchen cutting boards), it made them less liable to swing around.

For about five years, I've had a back-burner project of making a barrel bag that's easy to access while riding. It's still in initial notes: "velcro pull tab? infinite daisy chain? ...magnets?"

I have a prototype I'm building utilizing purse snap magnets and a big lid type thing.

That'll do it. I almost definitely want to buy one of those from you.
There's a 2% chance that some local RVA bagmaker (Chris someone, you probably know him from back when) is going to actually come through with the barbag he and I have been discussing for eight months, but short of that, yeah, I could use something a little nicer than a Bushwacker bag with part of a cutting board Gorilla taped inside it.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 09:21
jimmythefly
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Why not an elastic+hook arrangement like most rando bags main flap closure?

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 12:01
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #786)

jimmythefly wrote:
Why not an elastic+hook arrangement like most rando bags main flap closure?

No stiffener.
Stiffener+bungee on a roundybag just tightens the diameter of the cylinder

"Folks want options!"

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 12:58
crowding
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here's a thing

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 19:36
Rusty Piton
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That’s neat!

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 19:54
Andrew_Squirrel
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I have a similar buckle mechanism on my old Lazer Helmet! Magnetic buckles are the best, especially on helmets.

If you ever want to retrofit your stuff Peter Hamtramck gave me a heads up on this model which comes in a couple different sizes:
http://www.fidlock.com/en/fasteners/snap-helmet-buckle.html
http://www.strapworks.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FMS000

The 15mm seems like it might be best for a helmet.
http://www.fidlock.com/en/fasteners/snap-helmet-buckle/helmet-buckle-15-durethan.html

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 20:40
Shortpants
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Those magnet buckles are cool but wholesale for like $4 each. And not necessarily great for handlebar bags.

Sat, 11/04/2017 - 01:33
mander
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Magnetic buckles are great for kids helmets... They eliminate parental pinching, which you will know is a thing when it happens to you. My daughters both have nutcases with that feature.

Mon, 11/06/2017 - 02:26
Rentable Faxmachine
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I'm a big fan of the Fidlock magnetic buckles. Easier to operate when wearing gloves, IME.

Mon, 11/06/2017 - 11:10
jamesacklin
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Man, now I want to order a bunch of Fidlock snaps and turn everything I own into bootleg Outlier

Mon, 11/06/2017 - 13:03
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #794)

Shortpants wrote:
And not necessarily great for handlebar bags.

Why not?

Mon, 11/06/2017 - 13:21
shane.rrr
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BbKMUd5B-me/

Heated handlebars! This looks amazing. Imagine if you could tie that system into a dyno

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 09:06
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Doesn't ODI sell heated grips and bar tape?

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 09:14
shane.rrr
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No idea. Googled it and yeah you are right.

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 09:37
Face
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Are pogies really that bad?

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 10:30
shane.rrr
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No idea. Never used them. Just came across this post and wanted to share

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 12:15
Todd
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Pogies are great. The work, are cheap, and last forever (at least the neoprene ones do).
They are also ugly, so obviously there is some dumb engineered thing to keep things "sleek", expensive, and questionably functional.

Thu, 11/09/2017 - 12:23

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