Bicycle Secrets

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Tail Hook Lengthener
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Bicycle Secrets

-The screws on your derailleur are usually JIS, but your screwdrivers are probably ISO. Switch to JIS screwdrivers, and you'll stop stripping limit screws. Hozan makes some good one.

-Motorex makes Shimano's lubricants. Their Bicycle Grease 2000 is the same as Shimano's Special Grease, and Motorex White Grease is the same as Shimano's SP41 cable grease. Motorex stuff sells for a fraction of what Shimano does, comes in much larger containers, and is generally awesome.

-Shimano's new polymer coated cables make everything work better. I'm using them on my Campagnolo Record shifters by grinding down the heads to fit. Performance increase is notable.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:14
catdrew f

these are good

i knew about the screws and cables, but the motorex stuff is great. I always liked it, but didnt know it was what shimano used for OEM

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:58
rauce
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Windex is the secret to everything on the bike.

A flat piece of something placed along the tail of the drops pointing forwards and elastic banded in place will assure perfect hood placement.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 20:28
anomaly

Motorex++

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:50
Shortpants
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(Reply to #4)

rauce wrote:
A flat piece of something placed along the tail of the drops pointing forwards and elastic banded in place will assure perfect hood placement.

Need diagram, my brain no make word pictures

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:34
rauce
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At the shop, we use a flat piece of aluminium about 40cm long with a little tab bolted on at the end. The tab hooks the end of the bar and an elastic band holds it flat along the tails of the drops. You line the tip of the brake lever with the piece of aluminium.

Like this:

I don't know how mind blowing it is, but I'd never thought of it myself.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:46
Sneaky Viking
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I usually eyeball about a cm up from that. And use a spoke length ruler or a 32/36mm flat wrench or something.

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Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:53
Larry Winget
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I've often thought about making a jig to do that where you could scoot the levers higher and mark your place. Apparently someone did a few years ago. Lulz at the price.

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Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:50
Andrew_Squirrel
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I feel like I found out about it in some Riv literature (video?) or maybe some Park tools big blue book.

edit: mebbe this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:53
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I've worked for a few shops that made their own. Pretty easy to do.

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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:41
VT regularbike
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It's pretty easy to do with a good eyeball.

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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 00:53
Shortpants
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That's the thing, I just eyeball and adjust if it's necessary (most often not) . Its never been more than a couple of adjustments a few km down the road. But that's not a big deal for my own bikes, I understand it being different for a shop.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:20
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I've been about this life.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:38
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #13)

VT regularbike wrote:
It's pretty easy to do with a good eyeball.

with some bar/lever combos shit starts moving around as you tighten, and it really helps to have a gauge

I usually just do it off the bike with the bars on a table, no reason to do it in the stand if nothing's cabled up

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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 01:54
Shortpants
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Fuckkkkkkkk, I hate shit that moves as you tighten it. Canti brake posts, I'm looking at you.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:13
kevinwulf
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(Reply to #15)

circuithero wrote:

I've been about this life.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 02:24
EJ
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(Reply to #16)

JUGE FREDD wrote:

I usually just do it off the bike with the bars on a table, no reason to do it in the stand if nothing's cabled up

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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 08:06
VT regularbike
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I guess 90% of the time I adjust them they're from a bike out of a box already cabled & wrapped so there's that. I've used the table trick too but that usually takes longer than just getting one lever in the proper spot, getting behind the bike and using the top of the bars as an artificial horizon to make sure both levers get put in the same spot. I find I can usually do this faster than pulling out an additional tool to duck around with.

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i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:15
Andrew_Squirrel
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The ruler trick works just fine but it feels much akin to trying to hold a nut with needle-nose pliers.
Wrong tool for the job but it works.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:57
b-roll
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(Reply to #19)

EJ wrote:
nut with needle-nose pliers

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 18:25
jimmythefly
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MTBgripchat made me think perhaps not everyone knows this:

An air compressor with a small nozzle on it makes installing and uninstalling grips super easy.
Install: Start grip onto bars. Poke nozzle under edge of grips against bar. Seal grip end with hand. Squirt air in while shoving on end of grip.
Uninstall: Cover grip end with hand to create seal. Poke nozzle under edge of grip and blow off end of bar.

(might need to also seal the other end of the bar for this to work)

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:03
VT regularbike
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I had an oury inflate like a balloon one time when trying to uninstall grips that way once, it was hilarious and frightening.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:26
asterisk
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Along those lines: I've had good luck using rubber cement to secure grips that have worn in enough to start twisting on the bar.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:29
VT regularbike
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Ive just used spray adhesive since it's not too sticky that grips can't be removed easily.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:35
Petr5
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Aqua-net works best. Cleans off with water.

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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:38
The RTS
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(Reply to #25)

Petr5 wrote:
Aqua-net works best. Cleans off with water.

This. Been on my work bench for nearly 30 years without fail.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:46
ryker

Good tips... the new one for me is the Motorex. Large tubs acquired. Thx bc.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:56
cheese
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Air compressor trick also works at home with canned air/spray dust, just ensure it's well shaken and upright. Use the extension nozzle.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:13
ShartAttack
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Pro Taper makes grip glue/cement for motorcycle grips that I always had decent luck with, but then usually you have to cut the grips off when you're done. Since you don't twist bicycle grips generally I bet it's probably overkill.

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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:16
Andrew_Squirrel
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I had good luck with rubbing alcohol for both removal and install of my Cycletruck rubber grips. Had to wait until it evaporated to take it for a spin though.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:49
oogens
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(Reply to #30)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I had good luck with rubbing alcohol for both removal and install of my Cycletruck rubber grips. Had to wait until it evaporated to take it for a spin though.

I usually do rubbing alcohol to install, then blast with air to dry it. Uninstall with air and a pokey spoke to work it off

Also don't think its a secret, but the sharpened spoke is a very important tool in general for bikes

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:33
catdrew f

Better spoke trick is bending them for chain work

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:57
halbritt
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I've used gorilla glue with some success. Has to be scraped off the bars after, but comes off readily.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 17:01
deadforkinglast
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I use lock on grips and fuck all this noise and hairspray shit.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:20
Face
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(Reply to #34)

deadforkinglast wrote:
I use lock on grips and fuck all this noise and hairspray shit.

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Tue, 07/01/2014 - 20:43
Endpoint
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Glued some crappy "cork" grips back onto some bars with tubular glue once. Seemed legit.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 21:02
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #36)

Face wrote:
deadforkinglast wrote:
I use lock on grips and fuck all this noise and hairspray shit.

if you've never used fancypants grips that don't have a plastic tube in the middle, you should try it

especially if you have any hankering whatsoever for thin grips

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 03:11
aek
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At one point I had two bikes with Ourys. One pair was put on with some hairspray nonsense, the other with an air compressor at a shop.

One pair twisted and shifted over time like a motherfucker.

The other pair was solid.

Guess which was which.

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 03:59
randsome beast
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Lol at living the imported condom thin grip life. Tarck never fails to impress.

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 07:31
timberland boots
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Have used hairspray, air, zip ties to slide on, whatever else, and the best grips I've used are still a set of LizardSkins lockons. Fuck your shittastic grips Fred smiley

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:40
imoscardotcom
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i just use spit for grips, haha

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:52
JUGE FREDD
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It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:01
Guy
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ESI grips are awesome when it comes to never twisting. Install with Windex. Only downside is they get a bit slippery if you ride gloveless and get clammy hands in heat.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:13
curiousincident
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(Reply to #43)

oogenssssss wrote:
pokey spoke

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:19
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #44)

Mr. Grumps wrote:
Have used hairspray, air, zip ties to slide on, whatever else, and the best grips I've used are still a set of LizardSkins lockons. Fuck your shittastic grips Fred smiley

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:45
JUGE FREDD
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It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:03
timberland boots
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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:11
VT regularbike
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(Reply to #47)

Mr. Grumps wrote:
In my case it's these;

http://shop.lizardskins.com/collections/featured-homepage-products/products/lock-on-peaty-grip

Not squishy, grippy as hell, thin.

These are my jam

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:15
halbritt
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WTH Fred has never ridden Peatys?

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 23:37
Larry Winget
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Fucking gripchat.

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Thu, 07/03/2014 - 00:12
VT regularbike
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Still better than batrape chat. Haven't touched on that controversy in a while now. Cinelli cork anyone?

Miguel wrote:
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Thu, 07/03/2014 - 01:39

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