Miguel's fat-tired fopmobile

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randsome beast
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The field of stupid ideas that haven't been realized is getting pretty bare these days. After seeing a fatbike with aerobars and forward offset seatpost in the wild nothing really surprises very easily anymore.

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Fri, 12/20/2013 - 21:44
NOVELTYNAME
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So I've got stans flow ex rims I just need yellow tape and a valve?

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Fri, 12/20/2013 - 23:12
ryker

Yeah. 25mm tape.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 23:23
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Building mtb wheels, what spokes? Normally I get DT comps f&r road, do I need something beefier? Again, trail and bumps, not taking huge jumps whatever

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Sat, 12/21/2013 - 01:22
Larry Winget
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I built all my MTB and cross wheels with Comps. They will be fine.

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Sat, 12/21/2013 - 01:42
NoahGenda
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Mig I ride a 17" with a bunch of post, makes the dropper happy

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Mon, 12/30/2013 - 11:58
randsome beast
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Miguel wrote:
Mtb dq: I've tried L and XL and they both work ok? Is it like road bikes where a lil bit smaller is racy and bigger is ??? I guess the dq is a lil bigger or a lil smaller?

Also, any Tarck opinion on ritchey p29?

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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 18:02
Endpoint
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P29 is overpriced and underequipped. Salsa El Mar destroys it in design/value.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 18:08
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I feel like you'd have to REALLY want to ride a Ritchey to justify the pricing of all their modern bikes. Swiss Cross is cool, but not that cool, and is so spensive

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 20:43
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #60)

Bahamontes wrote:
I feel like you'd have to REALLY want to ride a Ritchey to justify the pricing of all their modern bikes. Swiss Cross is cool, but not that cool, and is so spensive

The Road Logic isn't that bad, but yeah.

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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 20:50
Endpoint
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Road logic is the only one that punches close to its weight. Still an overpriced Taiwan bike with nice paint.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 21:02
jeffro
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Speaking of, if anyone needs a '99 road logic in 58 holler.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 21:19
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #63)

jeffro wrote:
Speaking of, if anyone needs a '99 road logic in 58 holler.

One of these things?

Sheeeyit.

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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 21:30
emor
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Wow, their $3,500 tandem frame has awful geometry. I thought my old trek was kinda hard to ride, that thing must be a beast.

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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 22:35
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(Reply to #65)

tarckeemoon wrote:
jeffro wrote:
Speaking of, if anyone needs a '99 road logic in 58 holler.

One of these things?

Sheeeyit.

Pretty much. Mine has quill stem and nifty adjustable cable stops, the clicky lever kind. Built up with circa 2000 ultegra.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 23:36
Larry Winget
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Hmm... I think I'll stick with the plan of rebuilding my dumb ti bike.

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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 23:55
jeffro
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That's cool. Keep it in mind. It's sticking around at least until the Grinder is running.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 00:02
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so, here's kind of what im planning:
money is coming in slow but i think by the end of summer i'll have amassed enough parts and stuff to have a functional mtb.
xtr shifter/fd
xt rd cass
??? crank
slx brakes
stans flow ex to ?? hubs

im not sure i want to dump a bunch of money into a frame just yet. can i start with a redline monocog or something like that? what other options are there for an inexpensive steel frame?

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:12
timberland boots
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IIRC the monocog geometry hasn't been updated since the invention of electricity and is still from the dark ages before anyone figured out how to make a 29er that wasn't awful.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:28
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No pushers or danglers needed if you are actually considering a monocog

Get an on-one Inbred for like $250

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:29
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(Reply to #71)

Mr. Grumps wrote:
before anyone figured out how to make a 29er that wasn't awful.

what is a cheap steel 29er that isnt awful?
on one?

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:43
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Sneaky Viking wrote:
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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:45
NoahGenda
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Kona Honzo?

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:50
Sneaky Viking
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this might sound kind of obvious given the thread title and all, but: I think you're being a bit of a dandy about the whole thing

you have no experience mountain biking, right? you really have no idea what you want; there's no fork on your list. you don't need xtr anything. yeah, i read the thing that said fd and rear shifter are where it counts, but dude.

I wa sin your same position like a year and a half ago, and I EPed a Scott Scale with Fox fork and 10s Shimano and Shimano hydro brakes, because those were my priorities. Then I got out on trails and sucked and had a smile on my face the whole time. I could have gone with a shittier fork. The shifters are 10s Deore and I don't think about them at all- they just shift. The brakes are Alivio hydro and I have zero complaints. I wish I had full suspension. That would be more important to me than any XTR or XT or whatever. I'm finally understanding teh difference between XC and Trail and Enduro and all that shit.

What I'm saying is, there's a learning curve to this shit and throwing money at high end parts when you're starting out seems misplaced.

If I were in you're place, I'd look to pick up a closeout 2013 Scott Scale 970 in XL. Complete should be around $700 from a shop. Scott has 20+ in stock at the warehouse. Get it powdercoated if you want to feel like a special snowflake. Ride for a year or a couple months and upgrade the fork to X-Fusion and the rims to WTB Frequency. Give 0 fucks.

I dunno what your thing with it being steel is. It's a mountain bike. Aluminum is light, durable, cheap. You're riding 2.3 tires. With a shock.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:04
timberland boots
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On One is probably good, SC Highball AL is well received but MSRP is 650 and dunno what they actually go for.

Also, are you buying parts individually and then trying to end up with a bike by the end? 'cause that is going to be way the fuck more expensive than just buying a complete bike.

EDIT: Oh yeah, saw you wanted steel. Pretty much don't do that IMO

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 13:59
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My steel On One is great because when I get a real frame and fork it'll feel that much more awesome.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:01
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #77)

lukasz wrote:
My steel On One is great because when I get a real frame and fork it'll feel that much more awesome.

:banana:

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:05
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(Reply to #78)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
tthere's no fork on your list

Xfusion fork

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:07
NoahGenda
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But you can find a used aluminum frame so much easier, and then the same logic applies about getting a new frame later.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:09
timberland boots
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Seriously though, what did I miss where buying a complete bike for less money is the option that doesn't make sense?

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:12
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deadforkinglast wrote:
This is a safe place for Miguel to ask idiotic questions about loosely mtb-related things..

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:16
timberland boots
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Oh I'm not criticizing you or giving you shit for going about this in the less good way, it's just that seriously, just buy a complete bike and save yourself an assload of headache as well as either

a- get an equivalently good bike for less money
or
b- spend the same amount of money you're planning and get a better bike than you could do buying piecemeal

Also aluminum is p. awespme in MTB format

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:21
Sneaky Viking
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If you're gonna ask stupid questions and not listen to any of the good answers you get, you can fuck right back to Vallejo

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:22
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well what the hell am i supposed to dream about building up while im riding my sweet new road bike and then my sweet other road bike all summer? this is what i do for fun, right? i have all the time to do whatever and saving up for something new is awesome. i mean, im now all "what color cable ends should i put on the new bike" as all other parts have been acquired (not really, need a chainring, saddle, seat post and cages)

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:26
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(Reply to #85)

Mr. Grumps wrote:
save yourself an assload of headache

it's not a headache. i like bicycles, they're less expensive than cars and way sexier than saving money for retirement.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:27
timberland boots
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I like bikes too. MTB parts shopping gives me a fucking headache though. YMMV I guess

2010 Bike with a rear shock size that isn't standard and is a pain in the dick to find even though the bike is fucking made by a small little company you might have heard of called GIANT crew checking in.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:32
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Yeah, the complicating factor is not being able to demo something beforehand. People new to MTBs need to ride anything and everything they can get their hands on.

When I was getting back in the game with a full squish 29er I rode everything River City, FTF, and even Mountain View (in Hood River) had in stock.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:43
NOVELTYNAME
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yea, i dont understand proprietary designs either
except when they are awesome

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:44
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i think it was a bad idea to demo the carbon foundry bike because it was really light and felt like i was pushing a road bike. then i get on the krampus and its like riding a cinderblock with wheels. which led me down a hole of $339 china carbon 29ers on ebay

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:45
Sneaky Viking
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but you recognize there's a middle ground and it's aluminum, right?

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 14:58
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lol

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 17:04
randsome beast
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Not sure if you are still mad at me for bumping this with your question yesterday. Nothing hateful about expanding on your questions in your own build thread instead of taking over the general purpose mtb thread.

I agree with basically everything sneaky and asterisk said. If you have any budget and aluminum full squish is going to give you more fun per buck specced with alivio than a carbon HT specced with XTR. Riding multiple mtb's is going to give you a much better perspective than reading into others impressions or technical data. I promise we want you to start riding and having fun instead of worrying details before you have experienced the things that are going to let you make good decisions.

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 17:59
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Kona hardtail 29ers can be found on the cheap, pair it with an xfusion fork.

Go slx dangler, whatever gorilla, xt shifters, newest Deore brakes (you lose the ceramic pistons of the slx, but you can still fit ice tech pads later and you still get servo-wave goodness). Crank set is pretty much whatever, I guess slx if you want a decent double. I'm using some e thirteens that are a crap shoot since the first bearing reload design was a mess. New design isn't bad.

DT 350 hubs. I'm a big fan.

Get your shit tubeless. I'm pretty over stans, WTB is doing shit right for very little money.

On that note WTB TCS tires have been good to me, and they'll bro deal you out if you still have that shop connection. Otherwise German site schwalbe is probably the best option

I dig race face for cockpit stuff. And I like the fizik Gobi and WTB Silverado for some saddle suggestions. I still recommend the dropper post, but a qr clamp is cheap and has done the job for ages.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:07
NOVELTYNAME
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Can you please explain why one would use a dropper post? I don't get it

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:37
Larry Winget
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For getting yer ass low/over the back of the bike for gnar descending.

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:46
randsome beast
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They also get the seat out of the way for jumping and times you are standing on rough terrain with lots of moving fore and aft to pump or to keep balance.

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 07:55
Endpoint
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Mig... I'll bro deal you a 2013 EL Mar 2 complete if I have your size left and we can just move on from this.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 08:21
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(Reply to #98)

Miguel wrote:
Can you please explain why one would use a dropper post? I don't get it

It makes going down fun.

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 08:54
timberland boots
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Because it allows you to move your weight around over the bike

Without bein all

Silly DH pajamas optional and actually not recommended tbh

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:07
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(Reply to #100)

Endpoint wrote:
Mig... I'll bro deal you a 2013 EL Mar 2 complete if I have your size left and we can just move on from this.

This is more fun tho
I'll contact you in august

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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:52

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