Hutchinson Sector Tires

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Hutchinson Sector Tires

A little salesy because it's just copied from the CBC site but you get the idea.

With the arrival of the Sector, Hutchinson took tubeless road technology in a definitive step towards something awesome. Up until now tubeless tires and drop bar bikes meant undersized and sluggish feeling tires. Not to mention tight fitting beads and difficult setup. Road tubeless has been going through a nasty teething stage resulting in plenty if trashed tires and irritated mechanics and customers.

And to what end? Up until now I have been resisting road tubeless for all the reasons above plus one major one. I just did not think the benefit was there. My go to road tire has been the continental gp4000 for years now and I have yet to test ride a tubeless road tire that performs as well, is as easy to install, or even comes close to the price. Tubeless promises an end to flats but I rarely puncture anyway. So what's the point?

On my mountain bike I wouldn't dream of running tubes because tubeless gives some crucial performance gains for off road riding. No tube means no pinch flats so I can get away with much lower tire pressure to increase grip, efficiency, and compliance.

While these things are all but moot on a traditional road bike there is a use for tubeless that is FINALLY being addresses.

Enter the "all road" rider. Outside of racing there is plenty of riding to be done. Touring, randonneuring, gravel grinding, ultra distance rides, or just exploring. These types non-race rides and their riders have more to benefit from tubeless than the racer does in my opinion.

When it comes to tires for these types of riding tires in this large category typically fall into two distinct and mutually exclusive groups. Heavy, hard to flat, and SLOW rolling touring tires on one end and light supple but fragile randonneuring tires on the other. Both have their benefits and both have their shortcomings.

When I first mounted up a set of Hutchinson Sectors I knew this was going to be different.

The tires themsselves measure out to a full 30mm on a Hed Ardennes /Belgium Plus rim and have a nice feel to the rubber compound. Not as sticky as Continental’s Black Chili compound feels but better than any touring tire.

Within moments of starting my first ride I was sold on these. In the past I have had really good luck from the 28-30mm tires from Rivendell (Roly-Poly) and Resist (Nomad) which are both made by Panasonic and the Eroica (now called the Strada Bianca) from Challenge. The Panasonic made tires had a decent road feel and lasted well with minimal cuts and flats over thousands of miles of use. The Challenge tires rode phenomenally but were fragile and picked up cuts super fast and had sidewalls that were extremely light but prone to taking deep service life ending cuts.

The Sector truly is best of both worlds. The ride quality is almost as nice as the 320 tpi casing of the Challenge but with noticeably more resistance to cuts. With some Stan’s sealant and no tube to pinch I have had no trouble riding some light off road stuff over small roots, sharp rocks, and other such terrain. So far zero flats despite my best efforts to ride where I probably shouldn't as well as a couple months of almost daily commuting through Richmond’s city streets.

The only real knocks against this tire are pretty small. First is cost. At twice the price of a challenge Eroica or Rivendell Roly Poly the initial sticker shock is there. However the Sector is a genuinely better tire than both overall and the ability to run tubeless is a worthwhile benefit in my opinion. However if on a budget the sub $30 price tag of the Resist Nomad makes it a huge bargain and a great 2nd choice. The only other complaint I have is really my own fault. I have been testing out various tubeless road and cross tires with an assortment of rims and the Sector is definitely not truly compatible with certain tubeless rim designs. It works perfectly with Stan's rims as well as Mavic UST wheels like the crossmax 29er series and the new Belgium Plus rim from Hed.

What it should NEVER be used with are tubeless rims that use a ridged design like those from Reynolds, American Classic, and WTB. The internal ridges in the rim that help keep the bead of a cross or mountain tire seated tightly to avoid burping or blowing off at super low pressure creates such a death grip on the thicker and less flexible carbon reinforced bead of the Sector that I actually destroyed 2 tires trying to remove them by breaking the bead of the tire rendering them useless despite how easily they mounted. That clever rim design is just too tight a fit for the bead on the Sector and should not be used together. On the first group of rims I had zero problems installing or removing them though.

For this size tire I would definitely call this “best in class”

Pros: fast rolling casing and rubber compound, durable, tubeless, true to size

Cons: cost, won't work with certain 29er derived tubeless rim technologies.

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 09:49
JUGE FREDD
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Are the Resist tires really Panaracer too? Was never able to confirm that myself.

While being a slut for top-sheld conti clinchers is a most sensible position, you shouldn't totally discount road tubeless for race bikes.

I've put probably 5k miles on Hutchinson Atoms and worn the rubber off of 3 without a single flat, despite never bothering to freshen up the sealant, and I've put quite a lot of holes in them. I even crunched the fuck out of a first-gen Alpha 340 on a massive square pothole hit and the tire didn't give a fuck, just a superficial scratch and no loss of air, only had to completely open the brake caliper to ride home on it.

They're incredibly comfy and super low RR, for being a first-gen tire from 3 years ago with a stiff reinforced carcass that only measures 22mm. Faster than just about anything with a butyl tube, but takes a couple weeks to leak as much as a latex tube does in a day. Lets me get a tire as comfy as most decent 28s, but fit under a fender on a short-reach race bike.

The rubber compound isn't too hot, but the Schwalbe One should blow them out of the water on that front and lose the overly-beefy casing. Being available in 25 and 28 too should be of the fucking hook.

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 23:24
Endpoint
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Fuck waiting... get those 24mm Specialized tubeless road jawns. These feels.

While we were all waiting for the Germans to get their act in gear Specialized has been actually perfecting things a year early. I had no idea until we picked up the line a little over a month ago.

Tue, 11/26/2013 - 22:37
JUGE FREDD
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At $120 a tire with their locked down direct distro? Fuck that.

even the ridiculously inflated Schwalbe USA price is $90, and they're half that from europe

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 00:01
Larry Winget
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If you pour some Stan's into your post will it fix all the typos?

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 02:07
Blakey
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it's sealant, not tipp-ex

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 02:45
kevinwulf
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Are these the same as Secteurs? New name or different tire?

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 04:19
JUGE FREDD
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same thing

but it's like a wikipedia english spelling war

nothing flushes neckbeards out of the woodwork quite the way surplus vowels do

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 05:13
Endpoint
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(Reply to #8)

kevinwulf wrote:
Are these the same as Secteurs? New name or different tire?

It's "sector" on the sidewall.

match avatar wrote:
At $90 a tire with their locked down direct distro? Fuck that.

FTFY. If you want to try any S product I will personally bro deal you one if it shuts you the hell up. Haha. Just kidding.. sortof. You should try these though. Seriously.

tarckeemoon wrote:
If you pour some Stan's into your post will it fix all the typos?

lol... Iknowrite? I need to either stop blogging from my iphone or somehow fine time to do better editing. Babby is making that hard.

Wed, 11/27/2013 - 09:05
JUGE FREDD
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does special ed inflate the prices for their direct accessory sales to protect dealers? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftb/road-tires/competitive-road-tires/sworks-turbo-road-tubeless

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 11/28/2013 - 09:35
Endpoint
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Oh yeah. Turbo is more. Roubaix tubeless is less.

Thu, 11/28/2013 - 14:18
Brian W.
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have put a good amount of miles on my Atoms in tubeless road form and love them. never flatted.

i havent looked, but i would like a 25 width version though.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 13:44
JUGE FREDD
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I'm planning to replace my Atoms with 25mm Schwalbe Ones

my Time has the pads at the very bottom of the slots on the brakes, but the fork crown and seat tube take up enough space that the 28mm Ultremo ZX didn't fit (they were 29mm on my Stan's Alpha rims)

hopefully the Raceblade Longs still fit with the 25s

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:22