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Blakey
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PVD has already modelled the s900 spider, easy to change the BCD to 74 and then get it made

http://www.peterverdone.com/?p=2000

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 06:49
Endpoint
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All he did is swap one off a road crank... we've done the same thing it's a pretty straight forward thing. Def going to do a custom spider to take Sugino rings now and see how things go from there.

crowding wrote:
If you can source a 46t that's countersunk on the inside I'd vote for 130/74. One annoying thing about a 110/74 alpine double is that a 30t inner ring overlaps with 110mm outer bolts, making it hard to do the nuts on the outer without taking the inner off

Yeah... that would come later. Doing a spider is pretty much child's play for the guy we are working with. It will actually be more a hassle to get the rings sourced from Asia for now. 130/74 is the end goal for sure though.

The other idea that has come up now is see about getting some lower end stuff like Apex and just machining off the most of the spider to allow for a replaceable one like SRM has done with Dura Ace cranks.

Will know more once we get a few pieces in his hands to look at.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 07:25
Blakey
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That's what he ended up doing, but he has a parametric model of the spider that would easily mod to a different BCD. It's at the bottom of the post and also here

http://www.peterverdone.com/?p=2934

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 08:36
ergott
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DQ, what's the scoop on White Industries VBC crank? Seems like it give a lot of ring flexibility. What's the downside?

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 09:03
euflavine
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(Reply to #355)

ergott wrote:
DQ, what's the scoop on White Industries VBC crank? Seems like it give a lot of ring flexibility. What's the downside?

I think Branden's goal is to have a more modern, outboard bearing, crank.

A design with arms is certainly going to be stiffer, but I ran an VBC with a 48 big ring and had no issues with flexing. The rings are pretty burly and impeccably made, as you'd expect with WI.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 10:47
Endpoint
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That.

Sram spider will work with threaded BB or PF/BB30 stuff.

Not that crank stiffness REALLY matters but if it can be lighter, stiffer, and more modern looking....

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 12:03
halbritt
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VBC chainrings aren't ramped.

Also, don't know if crank stiffness matters that much. Only thing that bothers me is when I smash the pedals and the chain hits the FD cage, but that's usually chainring stiffness at issue.

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Wed, 07/17/2013 - 15:15
JUGE FREDD
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yeah pushing sideways on the bottom bracket doesn't make the bike go forward, resisting that effort is purely a feel thing

and any radial flex in the cranks is just windup that obviously gets delivered to the drivetrain

but I will admit that my Elephant would probably feel better with stiffer cranks

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Wed, 07/17/2013 - 15:56
ergott
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Is there a patent preventing someone from using the VBC concept in another crankset? Perhaps one with outboard BB and ramped outer? Then you could use any inner ring you want.

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 17:37
JUGE FREDD
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thing is, the whole VBC part of it is pretty pointless

there's only a few combos you'd actually want to use, the rest gets really jackass really quickly

also the ramps need to be designed around the angle the chain is departing from a particular-sized inner (and the inner has shaped teeth to match)

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Wed, 07/17/2013 - 23:02
cheese
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Braden, is the topo print you're working on going on Endpoint kit or CBC kit or other stuff?

Fri, 07/26/2013 - 22:37
Endpoint
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endpoint kit(s)

Sat, 07/27/2013 - 06:48
cheese
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I'll keep an eye out.

Sat, 07/27/2013 - 19:28
Endpoint
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Production is about to start on the first frames! Stoked for this.

Now that things are pretty much finalized I'm starting to work on ideas for the next models.

Decided to do a cross bike with swinging dropouts that will go into production next year. Would love some feedback on stuff like bb height, headtube angle and so on. Would be good to gear what some of your favorite cross bikes are to start comparing geometries.

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 11:27
jimmythefly
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Congrats, seems like a big milestone.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 13:43
tjayk
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sweet. hoping to get in on a future order.

loving my specialized crux coz 70mm bb drop and corners like a champ. rode a felt breed which was pretty good, and my first race bike was a crosscheck which had some awesome handling.

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 11:38
Larry Winget
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Slider cross biek sounds interesting.

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Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:19
Larry Winget
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...I mean swinger

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Mon, 08/12/2013 - 23:26
Endpoint
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shit just got real

Mon, 08/19/2013 - 21:09
jeffro
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Hooray!!!

Mon, 08/19/2013 - 22:03
asterisk
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smiley

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 01:49
Rusty Piton
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OH WHAT A FOOL I'VE BEEN!!!
wishing now that I'd gotten in on this.

emor wrote:
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Tue, 08/20/2013 - 10:01
imoscardotcom
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awwwww yeah

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 10:08
halbritt
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(Reply to #374)

Rusty Piton wrote:
OH WHAT A FOOL I'VE BEEN!!!
wishing now that I'd gotten in on this.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 13:18
ergott
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So glad I did.

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 13:28
liquify
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(Reply to #376)

ergott wrote:
So glad I did.

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 14:08
Roundabout
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My excitement is growing even more palpable!

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 14:08
eric_ssucks
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Wishing I was not in grad school and I could afford new bikes. someday!

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 14:27
liquify
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pssh, prioritize, fool!

Tue, 08/20/2013 - 18:54
Endpoint
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moar noods

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 20:45
jeffro
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Couplers?! Who's that one headed to? Pretty boss.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 22:28
NOVELTYNAME
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Dammit

"Folks want options!"

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 23:17
Blakey
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(Reply to #383)

jeffro wrote:
Couplers?! Who's that one headed to? Pretty boss.

:-)

Offsetting international shipping costs with coupling costs.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 23:51
Sneaky Viking
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wth I couldn't get rear rack mounts but Homer over here gets couplers on his Homer?

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 06:51
Blakey
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(Reply to #385)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
wth I couldn't get rear rack mounts but Homer over here gets couplers on his Homer?

Not my homer, supgirls homer.

Homerun.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 08:13
Sneaky Viking
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(Reply to #386)

Blakey wrote:
Sneaky Viking wrote:
wth I couldn't get rear rack mounts but Homer over here gets couplers on his Homer?

Not my homer, supgirls homer.

Homerun.

lulz. well done, sir.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 08:50
Endpoint
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Questions for the tarckfocusgroup

We're working on getting the ol' webstore up and running and plan on fleshing it out with some of the products that we have been using and somewhat relate to either the coffeegrinder bike or the over all, ahem, lifestyle.

If you were shopping for said bike what other stuff would you want to see in the webstore?

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 21:12
ryker

opinels

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 21:14
Endpoint
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lulz

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 21:32
hiljentaa
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Obviously. Along with Swedish forest axes, and perhaps some forged draw knives for log cabin building.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 21:33
Blakey
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Plus copies of On the Road and Walden obv

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 21:36
jimmythefly
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Frame bags, with pics and recommendations for which bag size works best with different frame sizes. Also for frame pumps.

I wouldn't mind a mini-tool or two, just as long as they've been properly vetted. So instead of offering 10 tools, just offer two, plus your review of "this is the best, we spent time trying them all so you don't have to and this is the one we personally use" sort of idea. Could be used for other stuff, lighters, stoves, knives, saws. There's a bunch of cool little folding or collapsible saws out there, but I don't think any of the bike sites are really selling them?

Sort of EDC but for endpoint lyfe.

Other ideas/things I might shop for were I picking up a new bike or stuff from your site:
Aeropress or other coffee system, obvs.
Boules Longues.
Rotors and adapters, esp. if the bikes are coming with 160 f/r, so people can convert to 140 rear.
Batrape
Maps or gps apps or other related stuff.
tubeless sealant and supplies
find me a perfect bottle-cage-fitting stainless coffe mug that has one-handed opening and when closed doesn't spill a drop while riding.
lightweight dry bags
tie-down straps, not sure how hard they are to get branded with your logo
non-cycling cycling clothes. In the past REI, Mtn. Hardwear, etc. have had certain pants and shorts models that work great as cycling clothing, even for very long rides, no chamois needed.
BLL
That awesome bike bell from kickstarter
chainwatcher
longer b-screws
mud flaps
organic/metallic pads depending on what the stock brakes are and if you think folks will want to change right away

It would be nice to have some sort of EndPoint branded bit that's not the usual cap/bottle/tshirt. Not sure what, but the last time I shopped for a new frame from a small shop I definitely wanted a thing or two with their logo on it to have around and kind of show off even when I wasn't on the bike.

I used to have this super-old keychain screwdriver that my dad gave me, similar to these:

It's amazing how useful they are, and how little space they take up.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:09
liquify
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Yeah, those would work.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:12
Sneaky Viking
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that cinelli tape with the rainbow colors in the holes.

maybe water bottles such as

or

but maybe coffee themed?
such as


?

HILLS, BROS!

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:18
Endpoint
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tarck delivers yet again

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:37
Blakey
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(Reply to #396)

jimmythefly wrote:
Other ideas/things I might shop for were I picking up a new bike or stuff from your site:
Aeropress or other coffee system, obvs.
That awesome bike bell from kickstarter
I used to have this super-old keychain screwdriver that my dad gave me, similar to these:

Jimmy droppin knowledge.

Backing the aeropress, I have 3. Combo pack with Porlex (small) stainless grinder that fits inside plus Coava DISK to replace filters. Plus starter bag of Endpoint / CBC labelled beans from a good RVA roaster.

I have those spurcycles on order too!

Keychain driver is neat, an investment cast stainless one with a 5mm hex and endpoint logo on the head? Sold only with framesets, serial number of frame stamped into key.

best in class stove or beercan stove made from BLL.

Pretty keen for the box that's coming to Oz to fill every spare cubic cm with gear to maximise shipping value.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:41
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #397)

Sneaky Viking wrote:

HILLS, BROS!

YES!

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 22:47
NOVELTYNAME
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BLL style water bottles
Orderable metal fenders (have berthouds or honjos or comparable in stock)
Tool roll that is <$20
Non-sucky winter cycling caps (the Nike one is awzm if you can find one)
Tarck approved merino jerz
Dry wallets <$10 (cellphone card cash holders)
Tested and approved music devices (like tiny speakers coz no headphones)
Tested and approved tires with decent reviews (I only follow fairwheel bikes for their reviews)

Also, I've been watching and listening to all the discussion about frame bags in all the threads and on this and other forums. If you have a design I would be happy to help develop protos as I know a bit about materials and have tools.

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 23:26
NOVELTYNAME
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Oh, shit almost forgot.
Map/manifest/rando card holder
Boxy bags that stay in stock

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 23:30
Larry Winget
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Endpoint branded mudflaps would be pretty sw8. For MUSA Rainy Day Biking (yeah, the name, I know) and Buddyflaps both do custom work. Fukka leather mudflap.

Topo map batrape

Some kinda keychain tactical EDC tool with a spoke key, bottle opener and rotor truing dealy.

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Thu, 08/29/2013 - 00:29

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