SiCCC Rotors

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Fergie
SiCCC Rotors

I installed Kettle Cycle's SiCCC carbon-fiber rotors on my cross bike yesterday, or actually I should say my bike shop installed them because I don't have a torque wrench. I was among the first to get them because I supported their kickstarter.

As I was leaving the bike shop, I tried to brake and found that they had little or no braking power. I rode to the gas station next door and followed the bedding-in procedure in their parking lot, which is basically just accelerating to jogging speed and braking to a stop 10-15 times. After that they seemed to brake as well as the stock steel rotors I had on previously.

I didn't buy these to be a weight weenie, even though they are very substantially lighter than the rotors I had on there before. I bought them because I hoped that they would solve the screeching brake problem I was having with the stock steel rotors, particularly when they got wet. It was raining heavily on the way home from the shop, and I'm happy to say that there wasn't even a trace of screeching, and the braking was fine even on 12% to 15% descents.

I don't know how long they will last, of course, but after two days of riding and about 50 miles, I'm pleased.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 22:25
halbritt
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Those rotors are the future.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 22:33
jimmythefly
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Sweet. What pads are you using with them, and what size rotors? Would love a pic or two when you get a chance.

This is on the Lynskey, right? Will be curious about longevity and pad life.

Thanks for writing them up.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 22:55
Fergie

160 mm rotors and Swiss Stop pads.

I will take a picture tomorrow, they look pretty siccc.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 23:14
VT regularbike
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Do they glow red under long hard braking like carbon ceramic disc's on cars because if they did I would buy them just for that. Also I REALLY hoped you used new pads with those and not your contaminated pads embedded with tiny pieces of your old rotors in them. Otherwise they definitely won't last long.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 23:23
Fergie

I didn't do any hard braking, but I hear you can get them to glow. I'll do my best.

Yes, I switched pads at the same time. I'm not that dumb

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 23:43
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #6)

Fergie wrote:
160 mm rotors and Swiss Stop pads

resin or metallic?

and what pad/rotor combo were you using before?

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Thu, 03/14/2013 - 03:32
euflavine
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I'd love to see a few real world pictures.

I'll probably try these out on one of my bikes.

Any input or information on how they handle hits to the rotors from rocks, crashes, etc?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:07
Fergie
(Reply to #8)

Dirty Sanchez wrote:
Fergie wrote:
160 mm rotors and Swiss Stop pads

resin or metallic?

and what pad/rotor combo were you using before?

Same Swiss Stop pads but with the stock BB7 rotors. In other words, only the rotors changed.

I don't know the composition of the Swiss Stop pads, their copy says they are "built of a proprietary compound containing ceramic, kevlar, brass, and resin. This unique mixture provides you with the quiet modulation of an organic pad, but also boasts the durability and wet condition performance of the metallic."

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:10
Fergie

Photos

And here's the whole bike, complete with 14 cm of drop. I'm an idiot.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 14:05
JUGE FREDD
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Are you measuring to the tail of the drops?

The standard measurement for that is the diff between the top of the saddle nose and the center of the bar clamp

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Thu, 03/14/2013 - 14:56
Fergie

I was making fun of myself, I'm clear now on how to measure drop.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 14:58
NoahGenda
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so balleur

The best type of fit advice is internet fit advice.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 15:38
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #13)

Fergie wrote:
And here's the whole bike, complete with 14 cm of drop. I'm an idiot.

I lolled. Fred must have missed that particular moment in whatever thread it was.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 16:10
DDYTDY
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I Like this bike....

and thanks for the write up. These diks are in my future.

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 13:52
Brian W.
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do they make these diks in center lock? been folowing these bros on FB and agreee they are the future.

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 14:43
JUGE FREDD
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doesn't really make sense for them to do that

use this style of adapter:

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 15:18
JUGE FREDD
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lulz: http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/04/09/first-impressions-kettle-cycles-siccc-sfl-carbon-disc-brake-rotors-more-news/

the reviewer is obviously a moron, but tons of corroboration in the comments there

the common experience seems to be that these rotors make otherwise perfect brakes into marginal heaps of shit

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:29
Fergie

They work fine on a road bike, but maybe I have low expectations because I'm used to braking on CF rims. I've actually never ridden a disc brake bike with hydros.

That said, I won't be using them on the English, while they are completely true on a flat surface, once they are mounted they go out of true, which has made adjusting the brakes a major headache (but at least I learned all about how to mess with BB7s in the process)

Fred, I think I recall that you were going to use Ice Tech rotors? Not sure which brake system you're going to use, but you should be aware that the rotor carrier bumps the tabs on BB7 brake pads. Can be solved with some filing, but it is generally a pain in the ass.

Mon, 04/15/2013 - 13:33
JUGE FREDD
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lol like I would use a BB7 smiley

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 04:45
jimmythefly
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Either way, neither of you lightweights can fully appreciate just how much stopping power a good hydro gives you. It's f'ing amazing how much speed can get scrubbed off so quickly at the edge of traction.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:48
oogens
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Ice tech rotors are mind blowing

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 05:07