Juan Pelota Finally Caves

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ryanoceros
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Considering it's a threshold drug with a specific level of permitted use that's been in place for a number of years and only a handful of people have been tripped up by it, yeah it shouldn't even make the news. But you have an experienced champion elite athlete making a rookie mistake and hoping it will just go away. And the most well funded team in the sport able to keep it out of the news for almost three months until they admitted it moments before it was to be made public? I don't care if there's a proven enhancement or not. Fuck Froome and Sky.

They're the ones still trying hard as fuck to make a buck off of the fact that Santa and the Easter Bunny still exist. How are they not just like the current Republican leadership boldly telling lies that only benefits the powerful while duping just enough voters poorly educated for over a generation to vote against their interests? How are they any different than Putin running a state sponsored doping program to hijack an Olympics for political gain? Rupert Murdoch has found the best green wash for his bullshit. I'm not going to complain if they can only get Al Capone on taxes.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 08:48
fixed
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froome just blocked me on twitter so i think i'm doing it right.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 09:31
Endpoint
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X posted to bro-cycling as well...

Occam’s razor people... most likely answer is he pushed the limits with the puffer he had a TUE for. Inrng has what seems to be a pretty reasonable take on it.

I see no reason to suggest Sky is “clean” but a bag of blood in final 1/4 of the Vuelta? Come on. The risk of getting a hit on jacked blood values is about as high as taking EPO (especially because these days they know exactly what a bag of blood looks like near the end of a grand tour).

Amateur as fuck. Especially considering it’s the Vuelta not LeTour.

I just don’t see Sky/Froome taking that particular risk.

Now it’s use as a masking agent for something newer / harder to test for / more sinister? Sure. We can go down that conspiracy rabbit hole.

If it is an effective masking agent for something new, then that would be more the Sky MO. Get a TUE for a masking agent. The near perfect crime.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 11:59
Endpoint
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Over half the peloton has a TUE for this stuff. Marginal gains... not wanting to fall behind... exercise induced asthma... whatever.

I don't get the hate for Sky more than any other team. They are not the only ones acting like angels, they are not the only ones flying close to the sun with Sub and they are not the first to get popped.

Now, if the UCI and WADA let this slide when they hit guys like Pettachi for the same thing, that's something to get butt frustrated about.

Or their ability to buy up enough talent to isolate guys like Nibali before the race has started. That's bad for the sport.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 12:04
kmcdon
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I hate pro cycling.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 12:09
Endpoint
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I get annoyed with it... but it's better than sportsball at least.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 12:11
iwillbe
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(Reply to #1357)

Endpoint wrote:
I get annoyed with it... but it's better than sportsball at least.

Bikes vs Balls:
It honestly seems like the same shit, different venue. I'm probably looking at this through rose colored lenses, but the big pro teams of our day seem more intensively and strategically managed than, say La Vie Claire or Molteni or whoever. The biographies and sport histories I've read make pro racing sound pretty shambolic until like, the Festina affair / EPO era.

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 13:01
lukasz
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brightly colored bikes moving through pretty scenery

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 13:35
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I never singled out Sky for any particular amount of criticism. They’re all cheating and Sky got caught. Sucks to be them. The sport sucks and is dying and this will hasten its death.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
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Thu, 12/14/2017 - 13:49
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #1360)

Tail Hook Lengthener wrote:
I never singled out Sky for any particular amount of criticism. They’re all cheating and Sky got caught. Sucks to be them. The sport sucks and is dying and this will hasten its death.

Unfortunately all sport is dirty, and the ones that try to do something about it just end up looking dirtier. If there is money there is cheating. I hate the Olympics more than anything. My dream Olympics is, the sports for the upcoming Olympics are announced 3-4 months out, and each time they are completely different. That would stop all the 4-8 year training/doping and talent identification plans that small countries cant afford to mess with anyway.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Thu, 12/14/2017 - 16:05
b-roll
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and we'd have international crossfit. It's a devil's bargain, but might be worth it.
I say we do that and then raffle it to send random citizens of whatever age bracket from every country. Put that on your cereal box!

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 20:26
halbritt
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“Cheating” is not a Boolean value.

Everyone is cheated by to some degree or other.

This is nothing. Froome’s rise to the top of the sport is questionable. Probably best not to stress about it. In ten years we’ll likely know the truth.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 21:40
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #1363)

b-roll wrote:
and we'd have international crossfit. It's a devil's bargain, but might be worth it.
I say we do that and then raffle it to send random citizens of whatever age bracket from every country. Put that on your cereal box!

That was actually part of my original plan, plus having them all locked up for the following 3 months to keep them drug free, but then I think about how many drugs there are in prison, and I pass on that idea. Anyway. I'm sure it would make a great movie. An ever changing modern decathalon, with downhilling, kite boarding, cage fighting etc.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Fri, 12/15/2017 - 22:30
eric_ssucks
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New idea: Each country sends their best, and they are sequestered for 4 months, learning a new sport and forming new teams. At the end of 4 months, we watch the teams compete. And when it is over, the team with the lowest number of successes (however defined) is eaten is sent home. Repeat. Winners get a year of free meals at a restaurant of their choice and a new motor scooter.

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 02:59
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #1365)

Yeah, kinda like the Hunger games, and the winners get free maccas. Shouldn't be hard to find a sponsor.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 03:15
lukasz
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(Reply to #1366)

halbritt wrote:
“Cheating” is not a Boolean value.

Everyone is cheated by to some degree or other.

This is nothing. Froome’s rise to the top of the sport is questionable. Probably best not to stress about it. In ten years we’ll likely know the truth.

I find this case entertaining precisely because the team that is best at "marginal gains" got popped for such a minute thing. Imagine running a perfect program for this many years and then getting caught like this. Like a formula 1 driver getting in a car accident driving his minivan home from the racetrack.

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 15:16
cousinmosquito
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(Reply to #1367)

That's right. Which is why something smells wrong. Its like Shumacher running out of petrol in a GP at half way. It beggars belief, especially when you look at how many puffs you'd need to take to get that reading, assuming it wasn't ingested. No way an outfit likeSKY would make a mistake like that.

More wonderful than you can believe it

Sat, 12/16/2017 - 16:06
fixed
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Everyone eventually makes a mistake. If you make a mistake and you're not doped, it means you just have a really bad day on the bike. If you make a mistake and you're doped, it means you get caught.

Fri, 01/05/2018 - 06:33
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Exactly. Some blood bag got mixed up, or someone forgot to set an egg timer the night before, etc. It was just something minor, but that's all it takes.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 01/05/2018 - 11:23

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