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liquify
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(Reply to #3551)

Uh, what the fuck is this shit?! Is this the heavy tubeless wheels version of a live stream where I have to sign up and pay for race content I can probably get elsewhere for free?

Wed, 09/20/2017 - 21:25
fixed
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i am regrettably a cross cat 3
maybe i can downgrade

Thu, 09/21/2017 - 09:39
johnnyraja
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Anybody at Cross Vegas last night see the pink steel bike in the men's elite race? Who made that thing?

Edit: figured it out. Breismeister

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Thu, 09/21/2017 - 12:25
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"With every bike created at Breismeister Bicycles, we strive to lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident."

well sign me the fuck up!

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 09:15
TimArchyLime
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If you add a rule about mandatory upgrades for 4's who get three podiums, I'm game. 5's is for beginners. 4's is for lifers. 3's is for fast lifers. If you've got talent, strength and care about winning, you shouldn't spend much time in any of those cats.

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Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 15:56
b-roll
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(Reply to #3556)

TimArchyLime wrote:
If you add a rule about mandatory upgrades for 4's who get three podiums, I'm game. 5's is for beginners. 4's is for lifers. 3's is for fast lifers. If you've got talent, strength and care about winning, you shouldn't spend much time in any of those cats.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:37
jr.early
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(Reply to #3557)

johnnyraja wrote:
Anybody at Cross Vegas last night see the pink steel bike in the men's elite race? Who made that thing?

Edit: figured it out. Breismeister

Saw this bike IRL today and it is pretty damn cool, Internal routing and a crazy ass seat cluster. Plus the pink is so much more pink in person.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 20:19
TimArchyLime
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I don't like hot, dry cross races. Not even watching them. But the women's race today was great. So stoked for Cant. Hoping she can do some domination this season. And HY for Keogh and Noble rounding out the podium.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 09/24/2017 - 15:52
liquify
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Yay, Noble got 3rd?!
Damn feeds were dropping on me. So I went from lap 2 to midway through lap 4 and all of a sudden Cant is leading (must have slow-played it with the 11th on first lap).
May need to spring for the VPN so I am not hustling. Was trying to watch it on the Olympic Channel, which is evidently a thing. Requires a cable login, though. Not sure if they will do all UCI races or if it is just special coz in the US.

Sun, 09/24/2017 - 16:07
crabbi
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Crossvegas was pretty good for me. USAC 1-3 was the first event of the day. Made the lead group of 10 or so. I was redlined nearly immediately, so I backed it off to keep my wits about me. I was leading the "chase" group and was able to distance myself from them while being 25m or so behind the tail end of the leaders. it was pretty great and I was taking all the right lines. Then I took a turn rather hard and burped half of the pressure from my rear wheel near the end of lap 1. rolled into the pit and there was no pump. People started passing me, and I started asking everyone I knew that was spectating to bring a pump to the pit. More people passed me for the next half lap until I made it back to the pit and got the nascar style treatment and my friend got me right back to 30 psi. I started stomping on the pedals and did what I could to make up ground, but I couldn't claw back at everyone. I finished 16th. I think I had a top 10 in me and that would have been great.

Wheelers was awesome because I stupidly did it on my overgeared ss and I decided early into the race that I was in party mode. crowd pleaser and whatnot. made money, took handups, danced on the runups and barriers.

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Mon, 09/25/2017 - 09:41
b-roll
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(Reply to #3561)

TimArchyLime wrote:
I don't like hot, dry cross races. Not even watching them. But the women's race today was great. So stoked for Cant. Hoping she can do some domination this season. And HY for Keogh and Noble rounding out the podium.

Maybe not classic 'cross weather but no denying it was a tough race. So many crashes in the women's race. Several injured juniors during the races earlier in the day. Pros of all kinds nearly passing out at the end. I raced on the Friday and Saturday versions of the course. I haven't seen many CX courses in person that I just wouldn't even want to try riding. The Sunday course was one. I was the course marshal in the giant cowboy hat.

Great racing, crabbi.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 20:20
fixed
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i did cyclocross yesterday. singlespeed in the cat3 race. i dunno wtf is going on here in western ny, the cat 3s are fast! i should downgrade.
the course was awesome. they added some good tech stuff this year, including one hoppable log that no one in my field was hopping. well, two dudes other than me, but both face-planted ultra hard and one of those dudes DNFd.
i finished 6 of 9 but also wasted a few dudes in the open field that went off 30 seconds before us, so overall a good day for me.
the ritchey megabite 37s are surprisingly awesome, i've only ever raced cx on clinchers with tubes at like 32psi, and it was quite nice riding these at about 27. it took me most of the race to find the limits of cornering (still not sure i got there) and then i was too tired to push it. it was 92 degrees wtf.

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 20:55
littletinyfish
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Trek CXC Day 1: Rode fast, finished 15th
Trek CXC Day 2: Rode faster, finished 15th

Watching the women's race was awesome. Lots of great moves and variation through the race. My fave was watching Keough attack on a backside straight and pull up two places, and then later speculating on what happened to Compton when she disappeared from the front. I saw her bomb down the descent on the backside with such reckless abandon, but then pull it together before she crashed into a tree covered in towels. I saw others crash in that same descent, but they all looked like they knew it was coming. Compton just looked completely out of it. I guess it was a reaction to a bee sting.

Watching the men's race was a bit boring. Van der Poel is an amazing athlete, but the field didn't change much apart from a position here or there.

For the end of both races, I waited at one of the crossing gates after the finish and right as they were heading to the line I jumped into the middle of the path and took a couple paces backwards and watched them finish with a clear view. Then they rode up to the gate and all collapsed on the field right in front of me. Sophie de Boer's manager poured two gallons of water directly on top of her. I stayed totally out of the way and let the managers, medics and photographers do their job and just soaked in all the "behind the scenes" action. It was so cool to be so up close and personal with world class racers.


Made it onto the TV.


Bee-Roll

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Tue, 09/26/2017 - 11:58
tjayk
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(Reply to #3564)

b-roll wrote:
TimArchyLime wrote:
If you add a rule about mandatory upgrades for 4's who get three podiums, I'm game. 5's is for beginners. 4's is for lifers. 3's is for fast lifers. If you've got talent, strength and care about winning, you shouldn't spend much time in any of those cats.

It's more fun when spectators know what's up and mercilessly heckle sandbaggers. Years ago in Wisco there was an extreme offender who got heckled by everyone along the course... it was awesome and it worked.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 14:52
fixed
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i got the "even the girls were riding this hill" heckle on sunday
already an exceptionally lame heckle
even lamer because i was on a singlespeed beating a bunch of dudes with gears
no gender-based heckles

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 15:17
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #3566)

fixed wrote:
no gender-based heckles

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Tue, 09/26/2017 - 20:42
CheshireCat
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(Reply to #3567)

fixed wrote:
i did cyclocross yesterday. singlespeed in the cat3 race. i dunno wtf is going on here in western ny, the cat 3s are fast! i should downgrade.
the course was awesome. they added some good tech stuff this year, including one hoppable log that no one in my field was hopping. well, two dudes other than me, but both face-planted ultra hard and one of those dudes DNFd.
i finished 6 of 9 but also wasted a few dudes in the open field that went off 30 seconds before us, so overall a good day for me.
the ritchey megabite 37s are surprisingly awesome, i've only ever raced cx on clinchers with tubes at like 32psi, and it was quite nice riding these at about 27. it took me most of the race to find the limits of cornering (still not sure i got there) and then i was too tired to push it. it was 92 degrees wtf.

western NY hollla. Can you like add me on FB or social mediars? I need someone to train with for racing again next year. I'm fat outta shape cos I've been riding motorcicles.

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Tue, 09/26/2017 - 22:13
fixed
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i am on tarck slack!!

Wed, 09/27/2017 - 13:06
aerobear
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crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Wed, 09/27/2017 - 23:16
littletinyfish
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Chicago/Madison/Milwaukee area. If you're a technical wizard and liked the course at Trek CXC, you're gonna wanna check out GP Jo Van Deraffe on October 21.

First time men: $15
First time WTF: $10

Register at is.gd/gpjocx

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Sun, 10/01/2017 - 11:50
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I lent my Singlespeed to a kid from work to race his first season on since I’m not using it, he has broken a spoke on the front tubular on the first race and rolled the rear on the back in the second but still finished both races. I’m so proud.

Mon, 10/09/2017 - 21:24
TimArchyLime
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Those Ronse races.
KFC taking it to the Euros.
LvdH doing the perfect combo of racing hard and racing smart. Does he have a nickname? It needs to be like "the bulldog" or something.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 00:39
Larry Winget
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Sunday I learned I'm still bad at racing bikes. But I still fit into a skinsuit, so there's that.

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Tue, 10/10/2017 - 00:47
fixed
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i am also bad at racing bikes. it was still fun. DFL in the cat 3s, but i beat a few cat 3s who mysteriously registered for the open race which went off at the same time
here is how it went:
- first five minutes of each lap, tech singletrack. i make up 30 seconds
- next 3 minutes, twisty bumpy grass. i stay even or lose a few seconds
- last one minute, flat pavement directly into a headwind. i lose 30-45 seconds.

so frustrating.

Tue, 10/10/2017 - 08:33
crabbi
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Saturday we had a cross race in the valley that wasn't crossvegas! it was 95% dirt and had a sandpit that sucked. went through that twice per lap, the second time was a series of u-turns hat would have been faster to run. overall fun course. the owners of the property were kind enough to wet down some sections that would have been otherwise loose and miserable, making for some fast straights. 2nd in singlespeed after leading the entire race until right before the last lap. once we hit that second sandpit right before the finish, he was gone coz 140lbs and he just floated across the section. I had a sizable gap on 3rd, so I rode it easy to finish the lap. not DFL in A's. I was already pretty buzzed and I didn't eat between races. all the handups.

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Tue, 10/10/2017 - 12:15
littletinyfish
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To rake or not to rake?

We have a sand pit at our race, and I think we should rake it between races to make sure no line forms and keep the challenge high.

Another teammate says we should leave the ruts and that part of the challenge is find the rut and stay in the line.

Is there a common agreement?

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Fri, 10/20/2017 - 12:14
Todd
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commit to the rut.
Also, it is unlikely that most racers will be able to follow a rut, and so it will get so churned up by people that it will be even harder than if you raked it each time.

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 12:32
liquify
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eh, depends on how soft the sand is/will remain. If it packs down, it can become relatively boring as the day goes on, since the rut is easy to ride, even around corners (charm city after rain). If it is a 100ft long sand pit, nothing probably will stick for the length of it.
Also, how soon it comes after the start may play a role. Tons of people attacking it will ruin any line if comes in first 1/3 of 1st lap.

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 14:29
fixed
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if the sand is damp at all, rake it because it's too easy
if it's super dry and fluffy, leave it the way it is

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 14:37
littletinyfish
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Our sand pit comes shortly after a run-up we're calling "The Wall" so probably either way it's going to be tough. It's deep and with a week since the rain, it's pretty dry.

I think we'll play it by ear and see how the day turns out, but I'm now leaning towards just leaving it.

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Fri, 10/20/2017 - 15:26
littletinyfish
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The Grafton sand section was super boring. There was one tight packed line very early on. I wanted to rake that one real bad.

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Fri, 10/20/2017 - 15:27
eric_ssucks
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Rake it before the fast people, but leave it for the slow cats.

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 15:34
Larry Winget
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Just don't rake it mid-race. That shit is annoying.

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Fri, 10/20/2017 - 17:22
b-roll
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I'm usually a no-rake fan, but I agree that on some days not raking just makes it a throwaway feature with no challenge later in the day. If the sand is early enough in the course, it seems like the first-lap scramble does the raking for you.

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 19:15
littletinyfish
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Ultimately it didn't matter. We didn't have to touch the thing because it was so challenging that everyone was running it anyway. No ruts ever formed, and while it was rideable, in practice it was such a fruitless energy burn. By the time you made it to the end, running it ended up being faster.

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Sun, 10/22/2017 - 11:47
TimArchyLime
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Glad it worked out.

My thought was that worrying about taking the sand is overthinking it. Let the course be the course. Raking sand is up there with artificially adding water to a course. If the sand is too easy, put a turn in it.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 10/22/2017 - 14:41
aerobear
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i enjoyed this video far too much

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Sun, 10/22/2017 - 19:18
b-roll
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Miss U PNW CX scene...

"Long story short: I'm stupid, but stupid like a fox."

Sun, 10/22/2017 - 20:08
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(Reply to #3589)

aerobear wrote:

i enjoyed this video far too much

Can we just post these every week? Amazing.

26/M/41t N/W

Sun, 10/22/2017 - 22:53
Larry Winget
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Frontier Park race today. First time ever racing for an hour as Cross Revolution switched SS to an hour this year. I really liked it, actually.

Fun, twisty mountain bikey course with lots of slick babyheads.

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Sun, 10/29/2017 - 20:49
aerobear
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@max, here you go:

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 21:04
TimArchyLime
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Dang. An hour SS race there would have seen me walking the grassy section back there they put the spiral. The rest would be rad though. That course has so many cool spots to work on perfecting your line through.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 22:21
fixed
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extremely muddy race yesterday
didn't have time to pre-ride because my kid was doing the kids race immediately before
start on the back row of 3 rows
zoom up the inside and dive bomb to get the hole shot
discover conspicuous lack of any grip at all on the course
promptly crash
last to first to last in about 15 seconds

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 09:11
crabbi
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Saturday: started to lap after final pre-ride, 5 mins before ss race. Dumped stans everywhere in attempt to get it aired up. Hit it with CO2 and dashed to the line. Got the wholeshot! 1/2 lap later I'm nearly flat. I get to the pit and my friend let me use his bike. Saddle was wayyyy too low, so next lap I went into the pit to raise it. The race mechanic was able to fix it and I got to do the last lap on my own bike. It wasn't optimal, but I got not DFL. Oh well. Teammates got 2nd and 3rd. Then we went on a 3 hour mtb ride in Sedona where I slammed my shoulder into a tree.

Sunday: This was the best race I've ever been a part of. Seriously, it was two of us battling it out until the very end. He was faster in the dirt/sand and I was faster in the grass climbs. On the final lap, he was leading and I attacked up a grass/concrete climb that lead into the singletrack. I knew I had to be in front of him. we got out of that and onto a series of gravel turns on a descent and in the last gravel corner leading to the finish line, someone had to brake or we were both going to die. He entered the turn off the dug-in line and caused me to brake and my front wheel started to wash out. I saved it, but he got a 5M gap and that was that. It was spectacular.

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Mon, 10/30/2017 - 14:50
fixed
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nice! that sunday race sounds amazing. to the contrary, i had more than 60 seconds to the guy in front of me and more than 60 seconds to the guy behind me in my race. typical mud race i guess.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 16:49
crabbi
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^That's usually what racing is, around here. 15sec-1min gaps and it's just pacing yourself to the end. This was a refreshing change of pace. Getting to know the course in ways that you didn't before because you know where you need to be leading to get an advantage and save energy versus chasing a faster person in their element.

We both fell over after the finish line and proceeded to hug it out and share a beer. That's cross racing.

I also smashed my elbow into a metal pole early in the race after attacking him on the same climb. it hurts pretty good today.

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if you're here, you probably fucked up somewhere along the line.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 19:28
fixed
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i smanged the underside of my left knee on something, i'm guessing my top tube? never had that happen before.

Tue, 10/31/2017 - 08:23
littletinyfish
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(Reply to #3598)

crabbi wrote:
Then we went on a 3 hour mtb ride in Sedona where I slammed my shoulder into a tree.

I don't think my biology would allow me to do something like that. I can only eat so much, and that basically gives me enough in the tank for 1 race, if that. To MTB after is out of the question.

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Wed, 11/01/2017 - 19:22
crabbi
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(Reply to #3599)

littletinyfish wrote:
crabbi wrote:
Then we went on a 3 hour mtb ride in Sedona where I slammed my shoulder into a tree.

I don't think my biology would allow me to do something like that. I can only eat so much, and that basically gives me enough in the tank for 1 race, if that. To MTB after is out of the question.

We've met. I've got a lot in my "reserve tank" aka my belly. However, Saturday was pretty easy for me because of the bike mishaps and we didn't do anything too gnar on the mountain bikes. When you are in a mtb mecca, you mtb.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
if you're here, you probably fucked up somewhere along the line.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 10:38
TimArchyLime
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Koppenbergcross race was so gnarly and so good.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 23:47

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