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Met up with Marty @ Geekhouse today so he could do some measurements for my 2012/2013 team frame. Much excite.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 23:55
balonya
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You gona finish the 2012/13 season in the PNW?

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 03:01
CheshireCat
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very nice. what of this moving to pdx? planning to do a few races there this season. at least one cross crusade just for fun so i can get demolished

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 03:17
coco
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I am so out of the loop. I just start looking at houses in Seattle to keep up with da bears and they are already moving onto PDX.

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 03:33
white folks
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my first year
gonna do the crusades since they're what all my bros wanna do
but i'd love to do some of the gpmc races too, the courses are rad and waaaaay less crowded

distracted by ass pain

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 11:29
Larry Winget
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No surprise, but I'm pretty unprepared. At least I've been able to to get some longer rides in this summer.

The clinic I went to a few weeks ago was pretty helpful. I feel like my barriers and runups will at least be better this year.

Still undecided on what categories I want to race this year, but I think I want to do more Masters races so I can race with my long balled brethren.

Also need to buy some tires and build some wheels.

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:07
Larry Winget
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Also, what Crusade races do you Portlandbros recommend? Maybe we can plan a family visit around one.

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:09
Larry Winget
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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 13:36
catdrew f

broken collarbone has really fucked with my riding. Still see if i can put together a wheelset and do a race or two, but 5ish weeks off the spencer will really fuck you in july/august

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 13:52
Brian W.
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plan on doing some races this year. SS most likely. i have no idea what to expect accept some pain. Assembling spencer now.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 16:08
wickedwagon
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Let my license expire with a cat 3. I think i should be able to re up it and get cat 3 back. Hopefully I will, I don't want to race in the 4's again.

Starting to do 2 hour rides 3-4 days a week. a friend's doing a training plan so It'll be focused this year. In the past years, I didn't train until the cross practices start, so this year should be fun!

Also, any input on these? I've got one mud2 for the front so I need a rear tire.

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 17:55
catdrew f

ive used em, super fast rolling fwiw

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 18:12
wickedwagon
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That's what a review said. It also said he started riding them at 50, then only dropped it to 40 and he said cornering wasn't best. Doesn't really apply to me cos I usually run tires at ~30. Getting them at cost so I may just get them and stop over thinking things.

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Thu, 08/09/2012 - 18:15
catdrew f

yeh i rode em in the upper 30s but im like 195 pounds..

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 18:23
1percenttruck
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(Reply to #14)

tarckeemoon wrote:
Also, what Crusade races do you Portlandbros recommend? Maybe we can plan a family visit around one.

i've ridden most of them.

alpenrose is the traditional opener and usually sets the world record for race attendance. if it's dry, the ruts break your back. if it's wet, the slippery off-cambers break your will to live. a very twisty, turny course with lots of re-accelerating out of hairpins, and a few short/steep up/downs.

rainier is a rad course and known for benefiting the climbers of the pack, although the 'climb' is paltry by road standards (about 3 minutes of hard suffering). it's a lot more wide-open than alpenrose with more steady gains and losses in elevation, and the back section is really fun in the mud. there's some cool tabletops to air off as well.

bend is a fucking dust bowl in the dry. fun course, lots of volcanic ash/sand buried in the soil, so it kicks up and kills visibility on the first lap when the pack's a mass. course is split between said dusty section and the grass area (check behindthebarriers' usgp vid from last year for a good review of the course). would probably be really fun in the mud, haven't been there when it's wet.

pir @ the track is very fast, flat and all-out in the dry. it's a dream come true if you're good at flat TT's. in the wet, it gets very slow and sloggy, but nonetheless a total powerfest that favors roadies (specifically those who know how to breakaway on crits, or power through a TT well).

pir @ pro paddock is a bit more technical, with the motocross course being one prominent feature and the organizers usually adding in a lot of twists/turns through rooted tree-lined sections of varying bumps/molehills. fun.

hillsboro is pancake flat and about 1/2 of it is speed based, 1/2 technical/hairpin based. another back-breaker in the dry.

barton is my favorite ever. it's at a gravel quarry, and as such vitamin G is the main terrain feature. some very painful runups (in the good way), turns are wide-open and taken at speed, race is a total blast in the wet or dry. a few tech-ish sections, nothing crazy, except the off-camber descent that somehow a cat C breaks their collarbone on, without fail, annually. (if you've ever ridden a decent MTB trail, it's nothing. if your only exposure to bikes is riding to work via spencer path, it may be considered "technical").

all in all, i'd recommend barton for the course and alpenrose for the experience. halloween @ bend also applies for the best of both. and if you plan on coming here, race a GPMC on saturday and a crusade on sunday so you get to experience small field oregon racing vs. massive fields and crowds. GPMC is more laid back but has some good courses (and a couple duds). crusade has a pretty good near-monopoly on great courses, spectatorship and organization, but it def gets old racing against 150 other people by mid-season.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 20:52
1percenttruck
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btw: if my descriptions of "this one feels good in the mud, that one hurts your back in the dry" didn't do much justice, there's pretty decent footage both from a helmet's and spectator's perspective re: all the crusade courses on youtube. watching said videos on the trainer was actually one way i'd prep for courses i hadn't raced before.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 22:59
josh
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We've been doing Thursday night cross practice the past few weeks. One of my teammates has been leading cross-fit style drills for core-strength building, then there are spencer handling drills like cornering and barriers, then a several lap mock race on a tough 2.5 mile course we've got mapped out. Tonight was the first time I made it to the park in time for the core builder drills. Holy shit am I sore. I'm going to be gimping around the office tomorrow.

Hopefully it'll pay off if I keep it up each week. I'm assuming with a stronger core I'll be less prone to getting "cross back" every bumpy race.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 01:46
scrub
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Hey Josh, any word on Kitten kit arrival date?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 10:57
ergott
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Hotlap from the Baller's Ride day 2 (cross practice). From Memorial Day. Spooky Mickey on the right after I remount. Jeff Buchanan of Buchanan Bicycles on the right at the start. Great guy starting up in the FB biz.

http://ergottwheels.smugmug.com/Other/Ballers-2012/23212518_b5fRsg#!i=1871252251&k=kTpn5NP&lb=1&s=L

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 11:02
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #19)

scrub wrote:
Hey Josh, any word on Kitten kit arrival date?

Last I heard they were shipping around the 14th. So excite.

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Fri, 08/10/2012 - 11:42
josh
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(Reply to #20)

tarckeemoon wrote:
scrub wrote:
Hey Josh, any word on Kitten kit arrival date?

Last I heard they were shipping around the 14th. So excite.

This /\.

Also further to my story about how much those cross-fit drills hurt.

Oh my god my legs barely work right now.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 11:45
scrub
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Good news!

Rode to work and did some drills today. Between my run yesterday and this my legs are tired now.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 22:00
euflavine
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Anyone out there have access to a Paul Components merchant account? I want to try Mini-Motos on my new artisan/MUSA/etc cross spencer, but QBP is out of em.

Edit: was all set on the mini-vs, but now I'm doubting if I should just go with normal cantis...

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:45
ergott
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I can get Paul.

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 12:32
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #24)

tarckeemoon wrote:
Also, what Crusade races do you Portlandbros recommend? Maybe we can plan a family visit around one.

PIR is way fun, and the Hillsboro one was fun when I did it, but mostly because I was in the beginners and the track was so foggy it was a mystery. I do really enjoy Rainier, and did make a point of doing that one multiple times. I miss Astoria halloween cross.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 19:19
Viggen
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Just needs new cassette and some new brakpads.
FGM as fuck at 7.45kg

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Tue, 08/14/2012 - 14:35
white folks
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seth, any crusade race make your way to the switchblade tent
tell em i sent ya, grab someones' boob and have a seat

distracted by ass pain

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 02:17
EJ
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(Reply to #27)

Viggen wrote:
Just needs new cassette and some new brakpads.
FGM as fuck at 7.45kg

Sweet Yeti bro. How you like them Primus tires? I need at least one new set of tubs this year and am on the fence between those or another set of grifos.

ckd wrote:
Hey Josh, WTF is up with your signature?

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 08:30
DDYTDY
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Mr. Bear wrote:
Met up with Marty @ Geekhouse today so he could do some measurements for my 2012/2013 team frame. Much excite.

You were in Boston?

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 08:54
Viggen
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Thanks bro.
I just recently got the tires/wheel collabro, so I havn't raced or trained on them yet. But the thread looks and feels really versatile and fast. I don't think it's all that great in deep mud as the thread is a lot more "together" than the Grifo's. Supposed to be "self-cleaning" but IDK. But then the Grifo's aren't so great in mud either I've heard.

You should try em out if you can get them cheaper than the Grifo's, the Flexus Primus are even more balleur if you can spend the extra dollhairs, but this is jst a really uneducated guess of mine.
Only other tires I've done racing/traning on are Conti Speed king and Race, so yeah go figure..

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 09:31
josh
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Any Seattle folks gonna make it out to the MFG pre-season race tonight? I did them last year. Flat, dusty, grass crit of a course, but still 100% more fun than doing intervals by yourself.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 14:26
Larry Winget
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Not tonight, but probably next week.

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Wed, 08/15/2012 - 14:27
EJ
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(Reply to #32)

Viggen wrote:
You should try em out if you can get them cheaper than the Grifo's, the Flexus Primus are even more balleur if you can spend the extra dollhairs, but this is jst a really uneducated guess of mine.
Only other tires I've done racing/traning on are Conti Speed king and Race, so yeah go figure..

I raced the old Flexus's BITD , they are tougher than grifos but were kind of slippery when wet. Was kind of wondering how the new tread compares. I can get them for about the same $. Hell it may be a good year to gamble on file treads maybe.

ckd wrote:
Hey Josh, WTF is up with your signature?

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 14:47
Viggen
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Do it atmo.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Wed, 08/15/2012 - 16:00
b-roll
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Do it, so we'll get some mud down here.

"You know it's dumb. I know it's dumb. But fuck it, I still love it."

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 21:03
anomaly
(Reply to #35)

DDYTDY wrote:
Mr. Bear wrote:
Met up with Marty @ Geekhouse today so he could do some measurements for my 2012/2013 team frame. Much excite.

You were in Boston?

For 3 nights for work, I had 2 1/2 hours on one evening free. I'll be back.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 12:54
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #36)

josh wrote:
Any Seattle folks gonna make it out to the MFG pre-season race tonight? I did them last year. Flat, dusty, grass crit of a course, but still 100% more fun than doing intervals by yourself.

You do it? How was it?

Waiting on spousal approval to spend a little extra money on tubs. Feels dumb man.

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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 13:01
DDYTDY
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(Reply to #37)

Give a shout next time your here with some free time for riding and or food.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 13:05
Ashes Dust
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(Reply to #38)

tarckeemoon wrote:
Waiting on spousal approval to spend a little extra money on tubs.

Gotta get PO authority, ATMO.

LOL. Stay right there. Imma go put some cones out. - Heath
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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 14:18
josh
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(Reply to #39)

tarckeemoon wrote:
josh wrote:
Any Seattle folks gonna make it out to the MFG pre-season race tonight? I did them last year. Flat, dusty, grass crit of a course, but still 100% more fun than doing intervals by yourself.

You do it? How was it?

Luckily I typed up a email to a co-worker who races cross but missed the preseason race as well:

The heat was a little brutal as was the dust, but it was a fun race. New course this year (or at least last night it was). Even flatter than last year, somehow. All grass except for one tricky 180 turn in a baseball diamond that got really slippery as the race went on. I came in 16th or 17th (out of maybe 30-35?) in the 20 minute first round. Top 20 advanced to the semi-finals. They split each group into two heats for the semi-finals. 10 people went off at a time for a 1-lap heat. Top five advanced. I was sitting in 3rd for the first half of our semi-final lap, then started to fade on this long straight slog of a back section. Slipped back to 7th or 8th, made up one spot through the barriers, then that was that. Was just as happy to not have to do one more dead-sprint lap around the field for the finals.

The course was completely untechnical save for the slow sand and it was pretty short so it ended up being really bunched up racing in the first round with lots of changing of places. Definitely an interesting dynamic that doesn’t usually play out in normal cross races. Even though I was 16 spots back, I finished about 40 seconds off the leader in the first round of the B race. Made me feel pretty good about my fitness.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 14:29
josh
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Also, last night I went to the weekly CX practice in the park. Managed to cleanly bunny hop a single PVC barrier 2 laps in a row, then just barely bumped it with my back tire on the third attempt. I was pretty damn pleased with myself. Don't think I could bunny hop two in a row right now, based on the sloppiness of my landings, but I'm going to give it a try.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 14:46
JUGE FREDD
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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 14:52
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #42)

josh wrote:
Also, last night I went to the weekly CX practice in the park. Managed to cleanly bunny hop a single PVC barrier 2 laps in a row, then just barely bumped it with my back tire on the third attempt. I was pretty damn pleased with myself. Don't think I could bunny hop two in a row right now, based on the sloppiness of my landings, but I'm going to give it a try.

You have a pretty damn good dismount/remount. Just don't fuck yourself up showboatin'.

Should be quite useful for stuff like the log at the top of the "runup" at Woodland Park last year though.

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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 15:14
Larry Winget
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FYI

http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/TBSCRRHTE/schwalbe_racing_ralph_ht_evo_tubular_tyre

Just pulled the trigger on 4 of these dudes. Shipping is kinda beastly but still a helluva deal.

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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 15:39
josh
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(Reply to #44)

tarckeemoon wrote:
You have a pretty damn good dismount/remount. Just don't fuck yourself up showboatin'.

Should be quite useful for stuff like the log at the top of the "runup" at Woodland Park last year though.

It'd take some really ideal conditions to get me to try it in a race. Would maybe consider it on a single barrier like they had at the N. Bend race last year. The nice thing about trying it with the PVC barriers is they either get knocked down or just kind of explode at the elbow joints when you don't clear it.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 16:10
scrub
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(Reply to #45)

tarckeemoon wrote:
You have a pretty damn good dismount/remount. Just don't fuck yourself up showboatin'.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 23:04
1percenttruck
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aight. what the fuck is this dismount/remount setup. i need vids/photos.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 01:21
Viggen
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(Reply to #47)

tarckeemoon wrote:
FYI

http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/TBSCRRHTE/schwalbe_racing_ralph_ht_evo_tubular_tyre

Just pulled the trigger on 4 of these dudes. Shipping is kinda beastly but still a helluva deal.

Holyshit, I need to get in on that.

Thanks.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 07:45
Patch
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Yeah I’m gonna need a pair of Ralphs this season. GB?

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 08:40
Ladygrinder
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i need to work on dismounts and remounts. dismounts are harder atmo when not on a fixed gear, and remounting is still something i'm working on--i'm starting with jumping on from a dead stop. while running, i'll still do a little double hop thing when jumping on. yesterday while riding trails, i had to walk a couple spots cuz single speed, and i decided to make myself run and remount every time...more physically demanding and also working on those skills. definitely hoping i'm not a complete klutz at these things by the time cross season starts.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 13:29
1percenttruck
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practice at least 15 minutes a day.

dismounting a freewheel ain't harder, just different.

on the re-mount, start by walking side by side with the spencer and swinging a leg over. progress that to a little faster walk every time until you're jogging. finally, do it running.

stutter step is a mental barrier.

/repeatedcliches.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 14:04

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