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Blakey
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(Reply to #101)

blumpkin wrote:
and when is jam heiney gonna do up the black cypres?

probably never for hetres because 'it looks too massive'. Maybe for cypres. (GB did the protos in black, *should* be easy to do a run in black and not gum)

blumpkin wrote:
velopluggers, bros
also, the cypres is where its at anyway.

I like cypres and have been using them on multiple sets of wheels for a while, but am really enjoying the P-Rs right now.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 18:58
heavymetal
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(Reply to #102)

Blakey wrote:
Putting Challenge P-R onto Aeroheads was "challenging" also. Much swearing, much careful tube stuffing.

Totally worth the effort though, great tyres.

Same challenges had on DT Swiss RR1.1s. But yeh, the tyres are defs worth it.

Mon, 12/10/2012 - 19:14
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #103)

blumpkin wrote:
velopluggers, bros

even better: stan's yellow tape

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Tue, 12/11/2012 - 04:33
blumpkin

cool will try that next.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 11:16
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #105)

Any word on the 30mm Grand Boizzzzz?

Dirty Sanchez wrote:
blumpkin wrote:
velopluggers, bros

even better: stan's yellow tape

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 17:52
Rentable Faxmachine
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Vittoria Rubino Pro II 700x28.

Better, worse, same ride as Paselas?

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 00:05
halbritt
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Fuck paselas.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 00:53
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #108)

halbritt wrote:
Fuck paselas.

For $20 I can't complain. But, I would like something a little lighter (hence my question about the Vittorias).

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 12:22
Sneaky Viking
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this might not be the right thread, but it seems sort of tangentially related what with the discussion of paselas (and my personal belief that 1.75 is the 26" equivalent of 700 x 28c, i.e. 'the sweet spot'): has anyone tried 26 x 1.75 Paselas on their vintage mountain bike?

26 x 2.25 Nomads are just too big for speed.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 14:39
timberland boots
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(Reply to #110)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
this might not be the right thread, but it seems sort of tangentially related what with the discussion of paselas (and my personal belief that 1.75 is the 26" equivalent of 700 x 28c, i.e. 'the sweet spot'): has anyone tried 26 x 1.75 Paselas on their vintage mountain bike?

26 x 2.25 Nomads are just too big for speed.

I dunno bout your sizing, the 1.75s I've seen have looked a lot closer to 45c than 28c IME

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Mon, 12/31/2012 - 20:28
Sneaky Viking
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I'm not saying I think 1.75 = 28c.
I'm saying for an old 26" wheeled mtn bike converted to fredly duties, my hypothesis is that 1.75 is about the sweet spot of volume vs. speed, without the bike handling like shit.
I was wondering if anyone had ridden the 26 x 1.75 paselas and found that the case.
I can start my own thread if this is offensive to 700 x 28c purists.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Mon, 12/31/2012 - 20:35
stronglight1047
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28mm Vittoria Rubino Pro 3 on sale at Comp Cyclist. Anyone ridden them?

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:24
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #113)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
I'm not saying I think 1.75 = 28c.
I'm saying for an old 26" wheeled mtn bike converted to fredly duties, my hypothesis is that 1.75 is about the sweet spot of volume vs. speed, without the bike handling like shit.
I was wondering if anyone had ridden the 26 x 1.75 paselas and found that the case.
I can start my own thread if this is offensive to 700 x 28c purists.

Curious to her what Tehschkott has to say. He's ridden 26x2.0 Kojaks and I believe has also ridden the Grand Bois 26" tire, but I'm not sure in what width. Also the bike wasn't a vintage MTB. Still he might have some insight into this.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 16:49
NoahGenda
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(Reply to #114)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
26 x 2.25 Nomads are just too big for speed.

Aint that the truth, have em on my commuter and they are super sluggish

The best type of fit advice is internet fit advice.

Wed, 01/16/2013 - 18:03
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #115)

stronglight1047 wrote:
28mm Vittoria Rubino Pro 3 on sale at Comp Cyclist. Anyone ridden them?

Been considering these. Also looking at 28mm 4-Seasons. Good? Bad? Meh?

Mon, 01/21/2013 - 22:03
hiljentaa
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I rode my 28c GP 4 Seasons all last year on a lot of really stupid stuff, including ATV trails in the UP. Only got one flat from a staple through the sidewall.

They aren't as supple as the Grand Bois I'm riding now, and are only 26.5-27mm wide actual on 23mm rims, but they are good tires IMO.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 11:15
Endpoint
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Used them a bunch too in the past. Great tire but crippled but their skinny casing in this contest.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 07:51
NKOTB
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Might be more of a Dumb questions material, but will I run into trouble fitting 28mm tire on a 29" rim with low bead sockets, designed to be tubeless ready?

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 08:45
Endpoint
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In my experience mounting 28c gatorskins and 32-35mm cross tires to stan's rims yes and no. it's going to b a bit tighter than average to mount but not crazy. Chances are you will need to inflate it pretty darn high to get it to seat properly then bleed off pressure. Not the best for road side flat repairs but not serious either. If you need to remove make sure you break the bead loose from the rim all the way around both sides first before going at it with a tire lever.

One thing to be aware of though... I found that on the crest rims the higher pressures associated with 28mm tires (I was running 75psi) caused enough detensioning of the spokes that I had to jack them back up a bit. Long term this proved to be a problem and I started seeing some cracking at the nipple holes in the rim.

I have not seen this issue at cross pressures or on the eyleted Sun Ringle rims that use the Stan's rim design but I can't speak for running high pressure on the Arch rims.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 09:00
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #120)

Yeah, if they did a '32c' GP 4 Season - meaning probably 30mm actual, I'd buy the shit out of them again.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 11:16
NKOTB
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Cheers. Going to stay away from Archs anyway. Been tossing around between FRM XMD 388s and DT's XR 400. The new Alex Evo Super Comps are tempting as well, but sleeved and no feedback anywhere yet.

Hoping Ultremos will be more true to size than Conti's.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 13:05
Endpoint
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I don't think the DT rims have that low bead socket. Most DT tubeless stuff I have seen is like Bontrager and relies on janky rim strip.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 13:17
NKOTB
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Hmm. Just out of curiosity mounted the 28 Durano and Ultremo on a CR18 rim. Fresh out of the box. The Durano measured pretty much 27mm @ 6 bars. Ultremo came bit over 28 at the same pressure. Crammed 'em both up to 8 bars and Ultermo came in around 29 mm and Durano 27,5.

Tue, 01/22/2013 - 13:42
Rentable Faxmachine
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Just mounted a 28mm Durano on an Archetype, and it measured 28.65mm at 100psi (fresh out the box). Weight was 282g. Will be riding them this weekend.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 20:40
biek

michelin pro4 25c
they have both "endurance" and "service course" version

what difference is?

anyone compare them to pro3 25c?

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u mad bro?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 20:53
stronglight1047
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have all 3, can't really feel much of a diff.

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 23:11
k_phombear
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has anyone actually ridden the 28c nomads?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 04:36
Blakey
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Orc?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 06:10
Orc
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(Reply to #129)

Yes, for about 3000 miles. They're the best tires I've ever ridden on, and I've been stockpiling them just in case Resist goes belly up or is taken over by someone who doesn't want to sell tires. They do run large, though; on Archetypes & Open Sports they measure 29.5mm @ 90psi.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:05
VT regularbike
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I put them on the ladies whip and she likes them a whole lot more than the 23c front gp4k front gatorskin rear that they replaced.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 07:39
jamey
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Just started riding Nomads in the 35sizeway and loving them. On a wider rim they are pretty much true to size.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 09:25
Orc
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(Reply to #132)

How wide are you rims? I've found that the 35s and 45s run narrow (the 35s come in between 31 and 32mm depending on the rim, the 45s I've only run on Alex Y2000 and Mavic 719 and on both of those they come in between 42 and 43mm) but the 28 goes against the grain and runs wide.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 10:09
k_phombear
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(Reply to #133)

Orc wrote:
Yes, for about 3000 miles. They're the best tires I've ever ridden on, and I've been stockpiling them just in case Resist goes belly up or is taken over by someone who doesn't want to sell tires. They do run large, though; on Archetypes & Open Sports they measure 29.5mm @ 90psi.

perfect

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 16:26
Endpoint
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Took off the worn out Roly Polys yesterday and mounted up the 28c Resist Nomads. Measured out to 30mm on tb14 rims. Rode to work and back on them so far. Feel just like the Rolys for half the price.

Checked size of the Eroica tires on TB14 rim as well to make sure they actually clear chainstays before I get any more hot and bothered by them. 31mm. Will probably get a ride on them finally next Saturday for the Tappahannock 200k, with latex tubes of course.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 20:55
imoscardotcom
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(Reply to #135)

stronglight1047 wrote:
28mm Vittoria Rubino Pro 3 on sale at Comp Cyclist. Anyone ridden them?

I just got some 28c rubino pro techs off ebay for poop cheap. will report on em soon

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 13:30
pirate
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Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
Just mounted a 28mm Durano on an Archetype, and it measured 28.65mm at 100psi (fresh out the box). Weight was 282g. Will be riding them this weekend.

How do you like these?

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Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:07
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #137)

pirate wrote:
Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
Just mounted a 28mm Durano on an Archetype, and it measured 28.65mm at 100psi (fresh out the box). Weight was 282g. Will be riding them this weekend.

How do you like these?

I don't have a lot of miles on them, but they ride nice and smooth. Currently running them on Pacenti SL23 rims, so they're a tiny bit wider than on the Archetypes (Pacenti's measure 24mm).

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:25
Rentable Faxmachine
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Rode the Duranos on some dirt trails today, and they handled nicely (despite being over-inflated).

Sat, 03/30/2013 - 18:15
awwsheeet

i love 28mm, 35mm is even better

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:47
Patch
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Vittoria is now making Open Pavés in 27mm. Kinda bummed I just bought some michelin pro race 4s.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 04:51
Endpoint
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Finally got around to putting the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas on the bike.

They are the shit.

That is all.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 08:03
Blakey
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(Reply to #142)

bradencbc wrote:
Finally got around to putting the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas on the bike.

They are the shit.

That is all.

Next on the list once I wear out 700x30 GB & 700x27 P-R then, unless I accidentally some EL GB tyres.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 08:21
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #143)

Patch wrote:
Vittoria is now making Open Pavés in 27mm.

bradencbc wrote:
Finally got around to putting the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas on the bike.

Want to try both of these and Ultremo ZXs so bad. I need to put more mileage in to wear out my GBs first.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:35
Blakey
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(Reply to #144)

hiljentaa wrote:
Want to try both of these and Ultremo ZXs so bad. I need to put more mileage in to wear out my GBs first.

Oh ffff, I forgot about the 28mm ZXs too.

fatroadietyrelife

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:41
Rusty Piton
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Guy i put noman 28s on tb14s and they measure 32mm
BONUS!!!

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:49
Rusty Piton
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(Reply to #146)

Blakey wrote:
bradencbc wrote:
Finally got around to putting the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas on the bike.

They are the shit.

That is all.

Next on the list once I wear out 700x30 GB & 700x27 P-R then, unless I accidentally some EL GB tyres.

They are absolutely the shit.
Best rolling tire I've ever ridden.
Just don't try to ride them in the rain.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 09:55
hiljentaa
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Why no rain? Poor wet-traction, or because of picking up debris?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 10:10
Rusty Piton
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Picking up debris.
The traction was great but I got 3 flats in 2 days of commuting in the rain.
Replaced em with nomads.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 10:25
stronglight1047
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has anyone measured eroicas on a tb14 or archetype?

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 10:48
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #150)

Good news about the Nomad 28s really being 32s(?) - sounds like those will work great on the Trek when I put fenders on it.

Been googlin' around - now I kind of want to try those GB 32s on my Rex. Normal in the back, EL up front?

Thinking how awesome it would be to have two wheelsets - 32h TB14s x 32mm GBs and 24/28h Archetypes x 28mm Ultremo ZXs.

Not fast enough to justify doing that, but it'd be fun.

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 11:22

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