Resist Nomad Tires

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stronglight1047
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Resist Nomad Tires

here are my first impressions of the nomads. please feel free to add your own experiences.

i measured the actual widths here: http://tarckbike.com/node/17907#comment-941200 i found that the 35 measures about 31mm on a 20.5mm (outside) rim, and the 45 measures 39mm on a 20mm rim.

due to frame restrictions i'm running a 35 in the rear. the front is a 45: http://tarckbike.com/node/10513?page=939#comment-941208

i have only put 2 rides, about 30 miles total on these so far, on road, broken pavement, and a little sand and mud, maybe 1500ft of climbing. and, i can only gauge them subjectively. i had non-TG paselas (32 rear, 35 front) on this bike previously, and these feel very similar. i am able to run the 45 at lower pressure (45psi?) than the pasela 35 (55psi?) previously on the front, and it feels about the same as the pasela with no apparent loss of speed, but better shock absorption. they were especially good on the broken abandoned roads and loose gravel in griffith park, and felt confident on the descents.

i did not check actual weights, but the factory says the 35 weighs 397g and the 45 is 519g. for comparison, non-TG paselas are 390g (32mm) and 490g (35mm). i have a nearly identical bike set up with 650b pari-moto 38s. that is a 290g tire, half a pound lighter(!) than the 45, and as much as i hoped the 45 would be the 700c equivalent of the pacenti, no surprise, it's not (maybe that's a kojak? don't know). however i wouldn't worry about damaging the nomads like i sometimes do with the pacentis. in fact i found myself looking for ruts and potholes while climbing just to see the 45 soak them up.

summary: these are very similar to paselas (non-TG, fukka TG pasela). if you already have pasela 32's, the 35 didn't give me any real improvement in feel, so i'd say don't bother until you need to replace what you have. if you can fit the 45s, they are a good choice especially given the price ($25-ish). the appearance is also far more modern than the pasela, which may be a plus for some bikes.

Fri, 03/23/2012 - 14:16
Sneaky Viking
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stronglight1047 wrote:
i did not check actual weights, but the factory says the 35 weighs 397g and the 45 is 519g. for comparison, non-TG paselas are 390g (32mm) and 490g (35mm). i have a nearly identical bike set up with 650b pari-moto 38s. that is a 290g tire, half a pound lighter(!) than the 45, and as much as i hoped the 45 would be the 700c equivalent of the pacenti, no surprise, it's not (maybe that's a kojak? don't know).

good review. this is what I wanted to know.

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Fri, 03/23/2012 - 18:52
Larry Winget
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Yeah. Thanks. Still planning to buy the 45s.

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Fri, 03/23/2012 - 18:54
Orc
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I've taken my bike with 45s out on a couple of brevets and/or populaires, and they're actually pretty good. I guess they're heavier than sin, but the bicycle they're on is nothing of a lightweight, so I can't tell. But what I've found in their favor is that they're pretty free-rolling as long as there's no wind to make them into sails, they corner about as well as Rivendell Rolly-Pollys do, and they do a pretty good job of converting sections of cobblestone into nothing worse than chipseal.

At $25 they teeter on the edge of being a steal. I need to put another 200k or so onto them to see if me ending up exhausted is because of the tires (or the general weightiness of the bicycle they're on) or me just being out of shape because I've not been riding at all during the week for the last few months.

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 03:10
imoscardotcom
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thanks for the review

stronglight1047 wrote:
(non-TG, fukka TG pasela)

why?

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 10:39
stronglight1047
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Ride quality is terrible imo.

edit: that said, i am an admitted tire snob, and i live somewhere that doesn't require TG protection, gatorskin, etc. if i were getting flats all the time i'd probably have a different opinion.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 16:44
Patch
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Buyin a pair of kojaks atmo.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 16:01
tjayk
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looked at these briefly at work today just to see if they were available. retail price is low, wholesale price is high... so make sure you pay full price at the lbs.

p.s. availability is low on 35c black, 45c tanwall - the others are sold out.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 21:46
k_phombear
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how about doing 360s off of six-set stairs?

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 04:08
Sneaky Viking
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prolly just dropped what might be the greatest tire review of all time:

some dingus in the comments wrote:
I've been thinking about trying to snab a pair for my Cross-Check. How fast do they roll?

prolly wrote:
I mean, they're tires. You push the cranks and they roll.

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/04/i-couldnt-resist/#disqus_thread

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 08:13
Patch
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Kinda awzum actually.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 09:17
Sneaky Viking
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I got a set of black 45s for the Crux. took 'em out today for tarck century.

they felt great. this bike has previously had tan Pari-Motos. I felt like the Resists compared very favorably... like 90% as good. Ran over some glass and no flats. I was running about 70psi.

very very happy with these for the price.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 17:02
stronglight1047
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45s back in stock at QBP

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 14:57
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #13)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
they felt great. this bike has previously had tan Pari-Motos. I felt like the Resists compared very favorably... like 90% as good. Ran over some glass and no flats. I was running about 70psi.

what's your total weight with you + bike + gear?

70psi is more where I would start for a 42mm rear tire if the whole combo added up to 300lbs (~55psi rear for 250lb, ~42psi for 200lb)

and those are the upper end, what you'd pump it up to initially and let drop from there over time until you feel slow 10-15psi later

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Mon, 04/16/2012 - 15:56
Sneaky Viking
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260-270ish with bike.
winter + pregnant wife = I got fat as shit.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 20:34
jimmythefly
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Imma echo Fred and say it's worth it to try 55 or 60 psi rear with a bit less in the front. That's what I've been running my 700x42 Specialized Borough CX tires at, and honestly they start to feel really good around 50-55, too. I run a front rack that carrys a bit of weight usually, if not I'd let the front go even lower. I'm worried about pinch-flats because my commute has some really nasty square-edged potholes on it (that seem to move/shape-shift almost daily -I swear they're sentient).

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Tue, 04/17/2012 - 12:29
Larry Winget
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I've been running the 45s for about 3 weeks now. I tried them higher at first but I have to say 45 for the rear and 40ish in front feels best so far. Me plus commuting gear + bike is probably about 210.

I think if I rode more aggressively on this bike I'd want to go higher as they're very lightbulby on the narrow ass Araya rims on the Gordon and would feel squirrely leaning the bike over very hard.

Haven't had them long enough to comment on durability, but they feel pretty damn nice for the price. They do a really awesome job smoothing out the ride with the trailer and I'm looking forward to having softer tires with bigger contact patches for winter commuting.

Provided these don't have any long term durability issues I'd totally buy them again.

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Wed, 07/25/2012 - 16:27
pirate
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How do these guys handle in the rain?

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Thu, 10/11/2012 - 18:08
Sneaky Viking
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put some 35s on the bike I normally have the 45s on.
seems a little obvious, but man they 35s feel a lot faster.
tho not as cushy.
duh.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Thu, 10/11/2012 - 19:51
johnasavoia
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(Reply to #19)

Went from 32 TG Paselas to the 35 nomads about 1 1/2 months ago, running at 85psi cause fat, and so far have had a puncture on each, glass shard both times right in the middle of the tread. Kinda bummed but guess I'm unlucky cause all I hear is good things. Neither puncture was big enough to need a boot, but still...

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:15
Larry Winget
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85 psi?

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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:32
Orc
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I'm riding 28mm nomads on my midlifecrisismobile, and I seem to be getting, on average, a flat every 500 miles on the rear wheel (picked up a piece of tire tread right after installing them, picked up a cotter pin from a pile of gravel, picked up a shard of glass riding out to Ripplebrook last month, picked up a shard of glass on a local street just the other week, and ate a staple last night.) I ride them at 90-100psi normally, 'cuz that's their sweet spot for 175 pound me.

I suspect that they are not the best tire in the world for the debris season and a more sane solution for my winter urban randonneuring might be to get some horrible klunky armoured tire for the rear wheel, but the Nomads are so ridiculously fast, sure-footed, and smooth that I'd really hate to pull the rear one in favor of a Ruffy-Tuffy.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 14:47
Sneaky Viking
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(Reply to #22)

Sneaky Viking wrote:
put some 35s on the bike I normally have the 45s on.
seems a little obvious, but man they 35s feel a lot faster.
tho not as cushy.
duh.

tried out the 26x2.25s... kinda meh on them.
they're about like the 60 big apples, in most respects.
they feel sorta sluggish in the same way the 60s do too, tho.

I wish they were available in 26x1.7 or 1.9
that would be a nice tire.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 19:40
Eric Estlund

Or a 26x 1.25-1.5.

Digging my (low milage) 28's, and just put the 35's on my wifes wasacrossnowacommuter bike. She has hated everything above a 25 she's tried since I've known her. Will be interested to hear her thoughts on the fatty rubber.

I dig you guys are pushing 45's on daily pavement. I'm not into it, but happy to hear others are.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 01:24
Larry Winget
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My bike can fit em' plus fenders so why not?

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Thu, 10/18/2012 - 02:16
Sneaky Viking
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eric, my feeling on 26x1.25 is that they make bikes built for 26x2.0-ish handle like shit.

im(current)o 1.7 is the sweet spot, balancing speed and retaining handling, on older mtb frames.
obviously doesn't apply to 26 LHTs or small customs built for 26.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 07:56
hiljentaa
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Are there any decent quality 26" x 1.6-1.8" tires available? I.E. not bombproof touring tires.

I don't have a 26" bike - just curious.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 09:27
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #27)

hiljentaa wrote:
Are there any decent quality 26" x 1.6-1.8" tires available? I.E. not bombproof touring tires.

I don't have a 26" bike - just curious.

Didn't Johnny Heiny have some 559 "hetre like" tires made?

Edit: http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_26_175.html

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:26
halbritt
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I'm tempted to throw some 45s on the Poprad.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:56
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #29)

eric_s wrote:
hiljentaa wrote:
Are there any decent quality 26" x 1.6-1.8" tires available? I.E. not bombproof touring tires.

I don't have a 26" bike - just curious.

Didn't Johnny Heiny have some 559 "hetre like" tires made?

Edit: http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_26_175.html

Alex W. Had a pair of those on his travel bike -I think tehschkott may have used them on that bike, too?

Kojak 2.0s are supposed to be pretty hot.

IMO Conti Town and Country's in 2.1 (not sure of actual width -narrower I think) are surprisingly fast/nice with a reasonably supple sidewall. Much better than other similar-looking tires. They make a 1.9, too, but I've not tried that.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 18:20
eric_ssucks
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Three months on with Nomad 35s. Measure a little smaller than that on dyads. I was running them at low PSIs because it feels good, man, and I was not pumping them up when the ferry left in 10 minutes, but then i hit a pothole and cracked a rim. Tire is fine. The rubber compound is not particularly sticky, making cornering in the wet/across paint/asphalt-concrete transitions less than confidence inspiring, but I haven't gone down yet. Pretty puncture proof, but talk to me once they get more worn.

All things considered, a good buy for less than $50 at my door for two tires.

And by low PSIs I mean in the 30s to low 40s. Really I need 50s to low 60s, depending on load that day.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 18:01
Bahamontes
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(Reply to #31)

halbritt wrote:
I'm tempted to throw some 45s on the Poprad.

Do you think they'll fit?
I have 38s on mine and don't think I could go any bigger out back #twss

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:00
halbritt
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(Reply to #32)

Bahamontes wrote:
halbritt wrote:
I'm tempted to throw some 45s on the Poprad.

Do you think they'll fit?
I have 38s on mine and don't think I could go any bigger out back #twss

45s aren't 45mm. I've read they're 38. That said, after some careful examination of the straight chain stays, I concluded they wouldn't fit.

Sticking with Jack Browns for the time being. Gonna throw some Nomads on Pookie's new ride.

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Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:26
JUGE FREDD
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they're more like 41-42mm IRL

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Sat, 07/13/2013 - 19:34
emor
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My 45s were 41.5 immediately after mounting to CR18s.

I used the 45s on my recent bike camping trip. I really liked them, as they are cheaper, lighter, and ride better than the Marathons I've been using for years. They performed well on the extremely rough section of Skyline Road between Olallie Lake and FR46 (wish I could say the same of my POS front wheel).

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Sat, 08/17/2013 - 13:30
Eric Estlund
(Reply to #35)

Super late to respond to this, but my desire for the 1.25/1.5 is for bikes designed for that size, not for mtb conversions.

Fri, 08/30/2013 - 18:37
Todd
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Been rolling on "45s" for like 6 months, they are rad for road and non agressive gravel. They really have poor traction in cornerns on gravel and let me down on steep grades on dirt/rocky/gravelly shit. Not adventure tires, but really I knew that when I got them.

Fri, 09/06/2013 - 12:32
Orc
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I've found that the narrower ones are much more surefooted in gravel; I'm a cautious descender, so I can't speak of how they work on fast descents, but I've had some pretty exciting fishtail moments which did not end up with me eating it in the middle of the road because the 28s had enough grip to save my butt (until I went off the side of the road; Nomads don't grip air worth shit.)

Fri, 09/06/2013 - 22:25
circuithero
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How would you compare the pucture resistance on city roads to GP4seasons? Either these or 28mm GP4000S IIs are in my immediate future.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 01:00
Orc
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I have never tried GP4seasons, so I can't say. But when I started riding Nomad 28s I was getting a puncture every 5-600 miles, though now that the roads are cleaner I've been going more like 1000 miles between flats.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 03:15
johnasavoia
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Replaced my rear 35 after about 800 miles of shitty Boston roads and a good amount of gravel/dirt/singletrack fucking off. Tire had lots of life in it except for one big puncture that kept flatting me despite a dollar boot, for how cheap they I can't complain. Front of the same vintage looks to have much much more life left in it.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 08:45
Todd
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Got my first puncture on the rear today, some real sharp glass stuff, this is after about 1,800 miles or so. tires really dont show much wear.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 09:52
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #42)

circuithero wrote:
How would you compare the pucture resistance on city roads to GP4seasons? Either these or 28mm GP4000S IIs are in my immediate future.

I haven't ridden the 28mm Nomads yet, but I did put ~2500 miles on the 28c (26.5mm) GP4Seasons last year on a lot of dumb stuff and only got one flat - staple through the sidewall while cornering. They still have a fair amount of life left (particularly the front tire), but I just don't have a reason to ride them anymore.

Good tires for flat resistance, but not very supple. I probably won't ride them again, but I don't regret purchasing them at all.

Sun, 09/08/2013 - 01:56
VT regularbike
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The lady didn't have much problem with her nomads until she spent a month covering for a friend who delivers edible arrangements downtown. She averaged at LEAST a flat a week on them. The tires didn't have a worn out tread at all but they were cut to fucking hell. Don't really recommend for riding in the c(sh)it(t)y.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Mon, 09/09/2013 - 13:33
circuithero
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Tell the lady we still need a rematch.

Mon, 09/09/2013 - 20:12
VT regularbike
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Too late unless you want to come to seattle.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Tue, 09/10/2013 - 17:16
m4bandit
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(Reply to #46)

VT tallbike wrote:
Too late unless you want to come to seattle.

Whaaaat?

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Thu, 09/12/2013 - 15:11
liquify
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She moved to seattle for job, VT to follow later.

Thu, 09/12/2013 - 22:13
Orc
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I finally wore through a Nomad this weekend, after ~3200 miles of riding, including a couple of hundred miles of gravel. No explosions or anything interesting, but when I flipped the bicycle over to futz with the brakes I noticed that there were small sections of the casing showing through along the centerline of the rear tire. The front tire retains more tread, so I haven't bothered to swap it out yet.

I continue to be extremely pleased with these tires.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:59
Andrew_Squirrel
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DQ: Do you notice you get more even wear between front/back since you seem to have a reasonable load on the front most of the time?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:08
Orc
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Nope; the rear tire still gets substantially more wear than the front. I suspect that some of this is an artifact of the rear wheel being in the debris stream from the front tire, but I can't say for certain.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 13:06

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