tarck measures shit thread (tires, etc...)

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Larry Winget
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tarck measures shit thread (tires, etc...)

I think it's time this subject had its own thread. These kinds of questions seem to come up pretty frequently.

Buffalo Bill - Don't you help maintain a spreadsheet with a buttload of tire measurements?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 02:25
JUGE FREDD
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Just 650b tires: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhJ3Eg2EndMUcFpsLUVBTm5XWWk3aGlEVXZfS2pvTHc#gid=0

I haven't found any similar efforts for tracking dimensions in other rim sizes.

There is one for 29er tires that just tracks weights: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApcNMgTrSzkTcmpCbmF5Y0Q0cmd6VGdTN0JsUWotQnc#gid=0

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Wed, 03/07/2012 - 03:27
jimmythefly
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Eventually, I swear I'll get this into google spreadsheet form. There are also several tire/rim combos at home that I have yet to measure. For now here's a bunch of stuff, both mine and gathered from friends. Please add to it.

AW=actual measured width
AH=actual measured height
RW=rim width
HoW=height at widest point. I think I'm the only one who measured
this, mostly just matters for knobbies when trying to figure out if
the wide spot is at the casing center or up on the corner knobs.

559 Pasela TG 26x1.5: aw35 ah34 rw22.5 (cr18)
Specialized Turbo 26X1" 22 mm on 19 mm Sun rims
26x1.25 Paselas 31 mm on 19 mm Sun rims

571 Continental Grand Prix 650x23c 23 mm on 19 mm Sun rims

584 Grand Bois Hetre: aw41.2 ah39.2 rw23.1 (synergy)
Mitsuboshi Trimline: aw36.5, ah36.5 rw23.1 (synergy)
Grand Bois Cypres: aw30.5 ah28.5 rw22.5 (velocity a23)
Pacenti Paris-Moto AW 38.5mm (Velocity Dyad rim)

622 Vittoria Randonneur Pro, 35c: AW 34 mm (Velocity Aerohead rim)
Vittoria Rubino Pro, 28c: AW 26 mm (Velocity Aerohead rim)
Jack Brown green 33.3mm AW33mm on:mavic ma3: AW32.6mm on:redline monocog rim
Pasela tourguard folding, 32 : AW 30.7mm on:cr18 AW 31.6mm on:mavic open sport
Panaracer T-Serv 700x32 AW30 AH29 HoW15 RW18 (Matrix ??? ceramic)
Panaracer Urbanmax 32mm AW:31.5mm on Delgado crosses
Pasela 32mm non TG AW:30.5mm on cr-18
Pasela 35mm non TG AW: 35.5mm on salsa Delgado Cross and Velocity Dyad
Panaracer T-Serv 700x35 AW36 AH33.5 HoW18 RW22.5 (Sun CR-18)
Schwalbe Kojak 700x35 AW31 RW19 (Mavic Open4CD)
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme, 42mm AW40mm on cr18

Bontrager Dry-X TLR 29er 700x44/29x1.75 AW47.5 AH46.5 HoW35 RW26 (Salsa Delgado 29er race)
Bontrager XR-1 Team Issue 29x1.9 AW48mm AH45mm RW24mm (new zero miles)
Bontrager XDX TLR 29er 29x2.1 AW56mm AH53.5mm RW26mm
Specialized Borough XC Pro 700x42 AW42.5 AH39 HoW26 RW26 (new few miles)(Salsa Delgado 29er race)
WTB Nanoraptor 52/50mm AW50.2mm on bikesdirect 29er rims

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:36
NoahGenda
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Cuz I met you and you are a rad dude I help; All above info included. I will edit this when i grab my measurements from home.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AquGGB-a4RW8dDdVU1hhTG9MQXotb1d0UU91dXB6Y2c

The best type of fit advice is internet fit advice.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:57
Larry Winget
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smiley

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Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:56
jimmythefly
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(Reply to #5)

tarckeemoon wrote:
smiley

Many thanks!

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 15:11
jimmythefly
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deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:26
aek
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Tarck is about owning a nice set of calipers.

doofo wrote:
tarck eats ur soul one lol at a time

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 05:44
tehschkott
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is it bigger than a babys arm?

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Sat, 03/10/2012 - 03:28
curiousincident
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(Reply to #9)

aek wrote:
Tarck is about owning a nice set of calipers.

speaking of which, where is the easiest place that's not the internet to score a cheap set? i can't remember ever seeing any during my perusals of your average small town hardware store. definitely not a harbor freight in sight...

home depot, perhaps?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:05
aek
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Surely they'd have some at almost any hardware store. Maybe you just gotta ask.

doofo wrote:
tarck eats ur soul one lol at a time

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:14
hambeki
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(Reply to #11)

curiousincident wrote:
aek wrote:
Tarck is about owning a nice set of calipers.

speaking of which, where is the easiest place that's not the internet to score a cheap set? i can't remember ever seeing any during my perusals of your average small town hardware store. definitely not a harbor freight in sight...

home depot, perhaps?

I'd skip the depot and go to a smaller joint, like an Ace or a True Value.

MoonCat wrote:
All bikes are really just overpriced crosschecks with different geometries.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:13
turpencat
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harborfreight

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:47
biek

ebay

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:31
Patch
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(Reply to #14)


evo corsa by wheat flakes, on Flickr
Anyone got a michelin pro race 3 25mm on a23/HED Belgium/Archetypes/TB-14?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:53
hambeki
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"My johnson is 12 inches long."

"Interesting, but it doesn't sound like a band name."

MoonCat wrote:
All bikes are really just overpriced crosschecks with different geometries.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:36
stronglight1047
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resist nomad 45 on an MA40 = 39mm


resist nomad 35 on an open pro = 31mm.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 18:08
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #17)

stronglight1047 wrote:

resist nomad 45 on an MA40 = 39mm


resist nomad 35 on an open pro = 31mm.

Awesome. Thanks for posting that.

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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 18:10
motorbacon
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Whoa. 35 nomad on a OP that probably measures around 18mm internally. Giggity. Wonder what it'll measure out to on a 22m rim.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 19:28
Orc
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(Reply to #19)

motorbacon wrote:
Whoa. 35 nomad on a OP that probably measures around 18mm internally. Giggity. Wonder what it'll measure out to on a 22m rim.

If it's measures anything like a 45 nomad, it will be in the ballpark of 32 mm. And it may depend on the psi; on my project bike, the 45 nomad + A319 is 43mm wide at ~40psi, 42mm at 60psi.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 21:38
tehschkott
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I bought the cheap carbon Chinese rims and they showed up today. These are the wider 29er rims. I used some Stans Flows 29er rims for comparison. ERD 603


Chinese Carbon 29er Rim - External by tehschkott, on Flickr


Stans Flow 29er Rim - External by tehschkott, on Flickr


Chinese Carbon 29er Rim - Internal by tehschkott, on Flickr


Stans Flow 29er Rim - External by tehschkott, on Flickr
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IMG_2667 by tehschkott, on Flickr


IMG_2668 by tehschkott, on Flickr

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Sat, 03/17/2012 - 02:55
Larry Winget
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What size seat collar does a Bianchi Milano take? I needs to get one of these typa things cuz jackass no rack eyelets on the chainstays.

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:03
NoahGenda
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New bike day! Tires have ~50 miles of use.

IRC SERACECX 2.1 Tubeless measure 1.898 @40psi
Mavic x317 disc with an .924 exterior

The best type of fit advice is internet fit advice.

Fri, 03/23/2012 - 18:41
JUGE FREDD
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Y U NO METRIC?

I mean it's nice that you were precise to the thou, showing that you're doin it for real

but c'mon use the measurements of those who measure shit

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 02:25
NoahGenda
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sorry was measuring 1/4" keyways for work and forgot (honestly didnt even think of it) to switch.

NoahGenda wrote:
IRC SERACECX 2.1 Tubeless measure 41.21 @40psi
Mavic x317 disc with an 23.47 exterior

The best type of fit advice is internet fit advice.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:28
curiousincident
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(Reply to #25)

Orc wrote:
motorbacon wrote:
Whoa. 35 nomad on a OP that probably measures around 18mm internally. Giggity. Wonder what it'll measure out to on a 22m rim.

If it's measures anything like a 45 nomad, it will be in the ballpark of 32 mm. And it may depend on the psi; on my project bike, the 45 nomad + A319 is 43mm wide at ~40psi, 42mm at 60psi.

my 35 nomad on tb14s at ~50psi measures to 33mm on the button.

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 19:32
bobbythehawk
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(Reply to #26)

Buffalo Bill wrote:
Y U NO METRIC?

I mean it's nice that you were precise to the thou, showing that you're doin it for real

but c'mon use the measurements of those who measure shit

i was in your camp forever. Then i started using manual milling machines...

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 20:10
Patch
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are you JP Weigle millin your tires? The fuck man? Context.

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 08:55
bobbythehawk
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(Reply to #28)

Patch wrote:
are you JP Weigle millin your tires? The fuck man? Context.

Sorry i'll rephrase - all the people i know that actually measure shit ie. engineers, fabricators, machine shops, etc all use standard

fractions how do they work

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 10:10
wickedwagon
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50mm kenda karmas measure 51mm on 30mm rims.

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BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Thu, 03/29/2012 - 18:05
white folks
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(Reply to #30)

richbobby wrote:
Patch wrote:
are you JP Weigle millin your tires? The fuck man? Context.

Sorry i'll rephrase - all the people i know that actually measure shit ie. engineers, fabricators, machine shops, etc all use standard

fractions how do they work

up top, hi 5

distracted by ass pain

Fri, 03/30/2012 - 00:46
hiljentaa
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Continental Grand Prix 4 Season 28c mounted on H+Son TB14 after ~500 miles.

Rear @ 85 psi - 27mm wide.

Front @ 55 psi - 26.5mm wide.

Really loving these tires at these pressures. Wish they were a mm wider, but I have heard reports of them growing to 29mm after more mileage. I should mention that they initially measured 1-1.5mm narrower when new.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 11:27
Patch
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Width of my 35mm Kojaks on a 19mm rim was 30, as opposed to 31.
The width of my grand boyz Cyprés 30mm on that same rim? 30.

Fri, 04/27/2012 - 09:42
asterisk
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Width of 28mm Clement Strada LGG (dual compound) on Open Pros: 26.5mm at 100 psi
This is straight out of the box with a driveway spin, will update after a few rides.

They replace 25mm Maxxis Detonators which were around 25.3mm on the same Open Pro.

Tue, 07/17/2012 - 21:29
mr. fop
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38mm randonneur hypers on tb-14s measure 38mm according to my janky calipers.

Tue, 07/17/2012 - 22:54
asterisk
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T-rout reminded me...
32mm Randonneur Hypers on Mavic Open Sports at 75psi measure 32.7

Tue, 07/17/2012 - 23:18
stronglight1047
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pro3 race 25's on H+ archetypes at 90psi measure about 27.3mm

edit: after a few days/rides these are now over 28mm. FGM.

Mon, 08/20/2012 - 15:01
Rusty Piton
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Does anyone know where I can get the specs on shimano XT 6 bolt hubs?

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Mon, 08/20/2012 - 17:00
jimmythefly
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Here?
http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/us/index/tech_support/tech_tips.download.-Par50rparsys-0034-downloadFile.html/07%29%20Hub%20Specs.pdf

Also, here, some good stuff under "specifications (at the bottom). Confirms "flange diameter" listed in above PDF is spoke hole PCD dimension for wheel building.
http://si.shimano.com/publish/content/si.html

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 01:17
Patch
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(Reply to #39)

stronglight1047 wrote:
pro3 race 25's on H+ archetypes at 90psi measure about 27.3mm

edit: after a few days/rides these are now over 28mm. FGM.

Gonna get this combo on.

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 05:47
imoscardotcom
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FGM?

Tue, 08/21/2012 - 10:21
Larry Winget
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Here's a list of rims with corresponding Veloplug sizes.

http://www.bikesweets.com/Articles.asp?ID=245

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Thu, 08/30/2012 - 17:46
Orc
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28mm Resist Nomads on Open Sport rims; 29.5mm @ 100psi


28mm Resist Nomads on Open Sport rims by Tysasi, on Flickr

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 02:10
Orc
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Hutchinson Confrérie des 650b on Velocity Synergy rims; 32 += .2mm (no pictures because the battery expired in my digital calipers)

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 16:46
jimmythefly
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Holy shit. Digital calipers that take pictures of what they're measuring and include a little watermark of the measurement in the pic frame.

Off to million dollar ideas thread!

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 18:31
Orc
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(Reply to #45)

I wish, but sadly all I've got is a crappy Park caliper with a big plastic wart that blocks my view of the actual measurement. It eats batteries like there was no tomorrow, and pretty rapidly gets to a point where the readout starts blinking at anything; I can get the measurements off it if I use my eyes, but it's catch as catch can with a camera.

(Bonus measurement! Rivendell Nifty Slothies on Velocity Synergies; 32mm.)

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 18:38
halbritt
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...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 18:42
Brian W.
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(Reply to #47)

teach me how to douggie wrote:
richbobby wrote:
Patch wrote:
are you JP Weigle millin your tires? The fuck man? Context.

Sorry i'll rephrase - all the people i know that actually measure shit ie. engineers, fabricators, machine shops, etc all use standard

fractions how do they work

up top, hi 5

Also, SCOTT! There is a harbor freight in east Towson. you can get a digital caliper for like $15.00 (on sale right now). go get one!

(sorry no measurements to share, ill be back....)

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 03:36
Shortpants
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(Reply to #48)

*lasts one measurement.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 04:25
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #49)

Most of these cheap-O digital calipers drain the hell out of the batteries in the quiescent mode. I think it's just inherit to their bad design. Luckily mine came with a decent case that actually has battery "storage holes" cut in the foam. I just take my battery out after every use and they seem to last 1,000x longer. This would be a hassle if they had a screw-down battery lid but most of the units I have seen have quick access battery compartments.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:52
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Sat, 09/29/2012 - 12:34

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