Tarck Arts and Carfts. Post your home-built bikey stuff.

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Tiny pink toolroll by Tysasi, on Flickr

A new toolroll, in the sort of conservative color scheme I like to use on my bicycles. Spandex + cordura; 1 tire pocket, 3 tool pockets.

Fri, 01/02/2015 - 18:31
chazzwazzer
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sassy!

Bars down, levers up, that's the way tarck likes to 'sup...

Fri, 01/02/2015 - 19:12
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Fri, 01/02/2015 - 23:22
thurston
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Want!

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Fri, 01/02/2015 - 23:35
Orc
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PM me.

Fri, 01/02/2015 - 23:51
NOVELTYNAME
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Lol

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 00:05
Orc
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One pink piece of rando luggage deserves another.

9×6 bag with slit pockets and one huge rear pocket (so that the main compartment won't be fouled by the born-again Trek's handlebars.) Not completely finished (I need to clean up some of the trim and sew a couple of triangular earflaps to hold the cargo down, but I'm riding a 200k later this morning and wanted a fitted bag instead of the larger (and ill-fitting) that I've been using on it for the last couple of weeks.

Note that the seams go inward so I don't have to fuck around with applying goddamn tape to the seams.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 03:09
chazzwazzer
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Reading Orc talk about bags reminded me of something I was trying with the Thule Pack N Pedal stuff and I wanted to share. I'd really like to start welding bags a la Ortleib but without having access to a fabric welder, I decided to modify an off the rack system as well as I could as a very rough proof of concept. The Thule system is gorss in its natural state but I thought it showed promise. I purchased one of their handlebar bags and the handlebar mount which comes with two removable mounting points:

http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/luggage-and-bags/bike-bags-and-racks/handlebar-products/thule-pack-n-pedal-handlebar-mount-_-pp_100037

http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/luggage-and-bags/bike-bags-and-racks/handlebar-products/thule-pack-n-pedal-basic-handlebar-bag-_-pp_100080

I won't post all the pictures here (flickr link at the bottom) but the basic idea is that I took one of the the mounting points and without making any permanent modification to it (for now), attached it to my crappy rack via bolts through a metal strap. It worked surprisingly well.

Pros:
- The Thule mount/lock itself is quite stiff and has little if any slop
- Locking and unlocking the bag is easy
- The bag is totally waterproof
- The bag is of a sufficient volume for my current level of rad-getting
- The mount receiver inside the bag appears to be removable and (ideally) able to be transferred to another more suitable bag in the future

Cons:
- The shady secondary attachment I made had a lot of lateral flex with just a 5lb load (duh?).
- Noise! The bag has a plastic form inside to hold its shape which when sandwiched between a ulock and crappy rack make a ton of noise over bumps. One of my brake bolts loosened as a result of all the jarring although it may have been a due to a poor job tightening before bag install. I have some rubber tool chest liner that I will try adding as a silencer.
- The bag is a stiff roll top (not easily accessible while riding) and has no map pocket. I have modifications in mind that will solve these issues, at least on this bike.
- I'm doing this on a CX bike. Ideally I'd buy some cantis and put my 45 Nomads back on but I can't clear the fenders and the 45s now. The larger low pressure tire seems to help a lot with steering dive while loaded. Or I'll just buy a Norda.

Future plans:
- In the near term I want to carve up the bag so that it closes like a rando bag. This means cutting off three sides of the bag above the point where the plastic form ends, leaving only the front as a lid. I think it would be easy to affix a map case on top of that. I expect to have to add stiffener to the sides of the bag as well if I add a shock cord to the lid and pull it back over my stem. Currently the bag height is perfect due to the idiotic height of my front (nee rear) rack on this particular bike.
- The mounting points' main body pieces are something I'd like to try and 3d print alternate versions of. We have a 3d scanner and printer at work I can use for this. I'd like to print a mounting body (perhaps two piece) that can be clamped onto the tombstone of a traditional rack. This will take me some time to do because I'm busy (lazy).

Full photo set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123174717@N08/sets/72157650084277596/

Bars down, levers up, that's the way tarck likes to 'sup...

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 23:35
Blakey
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Interesting.
I put a chrome duffle on sup's townie, similar welded construction, roll top, super light. Needs a better quick on/off mod, but otherwise good.

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 23:48
Orc
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(Reply to #310)

For what it's worth I've done randonneuring -- LOTS of randonneuring -- using one porteur bag or another. The rolltop (if it's rolled backwards instead of forwards) is not that much of a problem; I simply loaded the bag with the important stuff (food) on top so if I didn't tie down the rolltop I could just work my hand in and grab handfuls of food when needed.

And a wider rack will keep the thing from aggressively flopping to one side or another.

Sat, 01/10/2015 - 00:21
Larry Winget
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Any fore/aft waggle or is the plate stiff enough to prevent that?

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Sat, 01/10/2015 - 00:21
Orc
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Not significantly for me; if I keep the back of the bag tied down (with either a tightly fitting loop around the tombstone or straps) and have any sort of rigidity on the bag the worst that happens is the front panel bulges out when the contents try to slosh around.

Sat, 01/10/2015 - 00:26
chazzwazzer
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(Reply to #313)

Orc wrote:
For what it's worth I've done randonneuring -- LOTS of randonneuring -- using one porteur bag or another. The rolltop (if it's rolled backwards instead of forwards) is not that much of a problem; I simply loaded the bag with the important stuff (food) on top so if I didn't tie down the rolltop I could just work my hand in and grab handfuls of food when needed.

And a wider rack will keep the thing from aggressively flopping to one side or another.

I should have been more specific, this particular roll top seems ill suited for in and out usage. The fabric is relativley stiff and being a small bag it doesn't have much weight to crumple under. I could open it up and stand it upside down on the opening. Over time it may soften.

My goal was much less about discerning the bag's usefulness and more the about the sturdiness of the clamp/lock system and whether or not I could use it elsewhere as parts. In this regard it was a successful test.

Bars down, levers up, that's the way tarck likes to 'sup...

Sat, 01/10/2015 - 01:35
chazzwazzer
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(Reply to #314)

tarckeemoon wrote:
Any fore/aft waggle or is the plate stiff enough to prevent that?

Not that I could feel or see. The only wiggle was just the bag sliding left or right slightly, due to the fact that the mount is attached to the plate with only one bolt in its center. If I'd attached the mount to the plate with a bolt at each edge of the mount it would've been much stiffer. Again, the plate is total throwaway just to test the idea. I'd love go mockup a tombstone next with some bent tubing.

Bars down, levers up, that's the way tarck likes to 'sup...

Sat, 01/10/2015 - 01:46
Andrew_Squirrel
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Great report, thanks!

Sat, 01/10/2015 - 14:55
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #316)

chazzwazzer wrote:
In this regard it was a successful test.

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:49
Andrew_Squirrel
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Jimmy made some SW8 bottle openers for the Bike Swap.
Everyone was really excited about them.
Thanks Jimmy!

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 02:24
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Jimmy gave me a Deore one, but it's lost in the post-swap bike parts shuffle. I will report on it shortly.

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Mon, 02/09/2015 - 03:47
Shortpants
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I made a few of them. They're aluminum so if you're sloppy they get eaten up quickly.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 04:11
emor
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I got a 70s era SunTour one that I enjoyed a few times yesterday.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 10:27
turpencat
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I have an aluminum bottle opener that is very eaten up. One of these would frighten me.

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If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 15:02
emor
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I've been using a 1" CK headset spacer since 2007 and it's worked ok. No one else can figure out how to use it to open a bottle, though.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 19:01
randsome beast
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Same as a lighter right?

Ferg needs to invent a universal beer saber in time for March 1.

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RANDO LIFE IS LIFE ON THE EDGE

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 19:09
emor
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Basically, but it really stumps folks.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Mon, 02/09/2015 - 23:45
JUGE FREDD
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gurl extended the left pocket of my dukes to take my phone:

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 01:00
johnasavoia
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I have seriously almost lost my phone on some sweet fixie descents because of daisy dukes x phone flapping, should ask supfiance to do this.

Thu, 02/19/2015 - 08:33
jimmythefly
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Mud flaps from old VHS tape covers. Excellent Adventure and Men in Tights seemed good cycling relevant ones to test the concept with. In the end I went with Empire and ROTJ. Would like to find episode IV, love that art.

At $0.50 apiece from the goodwill I now have a small collection for future use.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:44
buffoon
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Excited to see JTH's name in this thread. Was not disappointed.

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a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Fri, 06/19/2015 - 13:07
Blakey
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That is great. You are going to be putting smiles on the dials of wheel suckers

Fri, 06/19/2015 - 22:59
jeffro
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A single 30x36 sheet of corroplast is enough to origami a basic front box thing. Put a flashlight in it to turn into lantern. Winged this. V2 will use slots and tabs and less packing tape. Ideally, these could be die cut and flat packed. Not really a rando bag so much as a commuter thingy.

Corroplast rando by Jeffrey Carson, on Flickr

Sat, 07/11/2015 - 20:20
johnasavoia
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I want one

Sun, 07/12/2015 - 10:17
ShartAttack
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Nice! A rando Donkey Boxx

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 12:47
jimmythefly
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Can we see some up close construction pics? I made one but used overlapping joints and the "sewed" it together with small zip ties. Next one will perhaps be hot-glued.

Have been thinking (but not actually doing) about rigid/fabric hybrid with glued seams. It seems redundant to have a plastic stiffiner inside a fabric covering, why not judt have the single stiffener layer at that location?

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 13:12
jeffro
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Yeah, I'll take some more pics. It's a rough first attempt. The strap for the tombstone is comically lame. But because the box is oversized enough for the top edge to be resting against the bar, it's kind of triangulated and seems super secure. Not sure that I even need to fasten the front bottom edge to the rack.

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 15:36
VT regularbike
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Why not just use a post office bin and make a lid for it?

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 19:24
NOVELTYNAME
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coz artisnal

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 19:50
cheese
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because property of the gotdang U. S. gummint, that's why. Misuse of postal property, 3 years and a bong.

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 19:50
jeffro
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Postal bin way too big.

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 20:39
VT regularbike
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Just sticker over the logo

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Mon, 07/13/2015 - 22:51
jeffro
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Sticker ain't gonna make it smaller doe. The sheet stock was only six bucks. This reminds me I promised moar pics.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:04
jeffro
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Untitled by Jeffrey Carson, on Flickr
Untitled by Jeffrey Carson, on Flickr
by Jeffrey Carson, on Flickr

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:23
emor
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I like it

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:54
crowding
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Awesome. How's the noise level?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:30
jeffro
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Depends on the cargo. Carrying my work clothes and lunch it's fine. Carrying small, hard, loose items it's a drum.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 07:27
jeffro
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Got pretty serious about my helmet spot game for last night's trail ride.
Untitled by Jeffrey Carson, on Flickr

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 19:12
Andrew_Squirrel
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Went to Seattle Fabrics this past weekend to get some replacement bungee cord for my new Swift Ozette.
I dunno if anyone else feels this way but I find Swift's stock bungees to be utterly terrible. They seem to have a max stretch length not much longer than the at-rest length. I've also noticed they are able to untie themselves when stretched. Already lost 2 bungees in a few weeks JRA!
While I was walking around Seattle Fabrics I was drawn to some perfectly matching Magenta 1.5" webbing. I knew it was destiny so I picked out some fancy plastic hardware for making a shoulder strap. They also had this neat plastic clip piece used to hold excess strap which is exactly what i've been dreaming about. Now when I stuff the shoulder strap in the bag I can make the entire bundle taut to keep it from sneaking out the sides of the Ozette and protruding into my brake lever safety bubble.

I also prototyped some pull-tabs for the Ozette bungees. It keeps the bungee wide and flat so it can easily drop into the wide metal slot for quick one-handed operation while riding. It's working okay so far but not perfect.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 13:47
Rusty Piton
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That's awesome Andy.
I just added some ortlieb hardware from a busted pannier to the bottom of my swift for a better connection to the HC rack.

emor wrote:
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Tue, 08/25/2015 - 11:56
Andrew_Squirrel
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Rad, excited to hear your report on day-to-day use once you've ridden for a bit.
Seen this done 3 different ways and everyone seemed reasonably happy with the outcome.

Now that i've been doing loaded offroad riding with the HC rack, Swift velcro and Berthoud decaleur I realize that there really needs to be better front retention since the bag is pivoting vertically from the tombstone/decaleur. Every time I come to a rest after descent the two front velcro loops are completely unattached.
Wondering if Swift should've waited before going from Version 1 to Version 2 style which they switched to when making my orange bag per my request.
I think a few Tarckers have Version 1 with the wide velcro webbing band in the center front.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:48
cheese
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Nice work, both of you.

Rusty, does that mean the DS is 'down' relative to the Ortlieb clips?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:49
Rusty Piton
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Yeah driveside is "down".
I loop the tombstone and then click the clips over the rails.
Previously I had been running it with no decaleur, the velcro and a bungee going under the rack from side-loop to side-loop.
This eliminates the need for the bungee.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:08

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