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oogens
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unless the video is sped up i don't think that bike is overkill at all

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 21:37
deadforkinglast
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I mean, it looks about as technical as Downieville in the rocky bits and it looks like there's a fair bit of pedaling involved. Technical, for sure, but, like Downieville, I bet the fastest guys through that bit are on shorter travel bikes.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 21:48
timberland boots
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Size of rocks always looks way smaller in helmet cam. The gnarliest sections of pietzmarisberg posted the other day in photos look no bigger than roots on helmet cam runs from the timed practices yesterday

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Sat, 03/17/2012 - 22:08
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Rocks or not, he seemed to be going quite fast. And that big rock ledge drop at :14 was awesome, the way it's sort of blind and if he continued the way the trail pointed him coming into it he would've launched into open air.

Is Downieville that exposed, where one wrong hit could launch you sideways off a steel side-slope? Also, that rock garden looked mean, with drops and jumps inside of ti, and instead of launching into space you get launched into a desk-sized boulder. I was able to find some Downieville DH video, but not sure if they're the right sections. some gnar, some fast guys, some stuff similar to the vid Fred posted, but nothing that exceeds it.

/not DHer

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 22:38
oogens
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bucher ranch is the rockiest part of downieville i've been on, with the waterfall being definitely the hardest part. that said watching videos of people on that trail looks a lot easier than actually riding it. that leads me to think that this peruvian dude is on some crazy stuff.

also how quickly he accelerates in the beginning leads me to think it's a fair bit steeper than it looks.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 01:05
motorbacon
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(Reply to #406)

deadforkinglast wrote:
I mean, it looks about as technical as Downieville in the rocky bits and it looks like there's a fair bit of pedaling involved. Technical, for sure, but, like Downieville, I bet the fastest guys through that bit are on shorter travel bikes.

oh shut up. your epeen aint getting any bigger.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 03:12
deadforkinglast
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Sure ain't. Just sayin, it's like guys who ride bigbikes in Santa Cruz. Over gunned, for sure, but they're probably having hella fun.

Whatever. Trail looks fun.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 14:41
Larry Winget
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I mocked up my MTB with my newly laced wheels last night. A 29er sans tires looks hilarious.

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Sun, 03/18/2012 - 20:42
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Did my first short track mountain bike race today. It was super fun, though it pretty well kicked my ass after spending all winter snowboarding and pretty much only commuting as far as bike riding goes. Also snowboarding for 6 hours yesterday definitely didn't help.

Anyways, the course was pretty rad. We did three laps of the 4-5ish mile loop. Good mix of flowing single track, semi-techy and rooty single track, and some good double track. I rode my rigid SS. Worked out pretty well on this course, though there were definitely spots that I could've descended faster with some suspension I think. Only two sections where I had to run cause it was too steep. There were also a couple of really long flat sections that I spun out on. I got 6th out of 11 people in my age group. Nothing to write home about, but a good kick off my season, in my book.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 22:38
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Did 3 days of camping and mountain biking in Fruita, Colorado for the last few days. All the photos are from Fruita, Grand Junction, or Western Rim (Utah). Shit was a complete blast, and some of the nuttiest riding ever.

This was from our campsite. Fucking amazing.




So freaking steep


Welcome sign for Fruita


Horsethief Bench (google that shit)


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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 00:07
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(Reply to #411)

tarckeemoon wrote:
All 29ers look hilarious.

FTFM ;)

Josh, Jamey, so rad.

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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 00:35
JonnieGonePlaid
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(Reply to #412)

curiousincident wrote:
prolly urite but i need that extra padding in the event of crash. for to protect this pretty face, you see.

how much were those china lights you got/do you think you'll be able to ghetto mount to helmet?

kind of just thinking i'll get a minewt 300...

If you're talking about the helmet mounts for the MagicShine, I used to be a dealer and have dozens of helmet mounts in a box with extension cables.

Also, patapsco is a damn fun course, there's a race held there sometime in early spring each year, makes for one of the better XC races in the area.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:03
bobbythehawk
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Said race was on saturday.

placed 6th in single speed. KOM'ed the first climb. Bout 9 min off the single speed leader, who was weeeeeeell into the fast guys from expert geared. Ended up finishing in 2:05 - course was something like 22 miles and 2200 ft climb.

fun course, but i fractured my pinky on ridge trail. Very last climb of the day, and my legs just said FUUUUUUUUU and locked. Couldnt unclip, just teetered over, and put my hand out like an ass. Made the beer taste that much better :)

OH and let me get at some of those mounts. Could you spare 2 or 3 and some xtenze cords?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:54
JonnieGonePlaid
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(Reply to #414)

richbobby wrote:
Said race was on saturday.

placed 6th in single speed. KOM'ed the first climb. Bout 9 min off the single speed leader, who was weeeeeeell into the fast guys from expert geared. Ended up finishing in 2:05 - course was something like 22 miles and 2200 ft climb.

fun course, but i fractured my pinky on ridge trail. Very last climb of the day, and my legs just said FUUUUUUUUU and locked. Couldnt unclip, just teetered over, and put my hand out like an ass. Made the beer taste that much better :)

OH and let me get at some of those mounts. Could you spare 2 or 3 and some xtenze cords?

Nice, I think I came in around 22nd out of about 80 riders in Sport last year. Super fun course to race.

Once I get to Seattle and unpack I'd be happy to mail some of those jams your way. Right now they are in an unlabeled box and there's no way I could find them.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:43
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(Reply to #415)

richbobby wrote:
Said race was on saturday.

placed 6th in single speed. KOM'ed the first climb. Bout 9 min off the single speed leader, who was weeeeeeell into the fast guys from expert geared. Ended up finishing in 2:05 - course was something like 22 miles and 2200 ft climb.

fun course, but i fractured my pinky on ridge trail. Very last climb of the day, and my legs just said FUUUUUUUUU and locked. Couldnt unclip, just teetered over, and put my hand out like an ass. Made the beer taste that much better :)

OH and let me get at some of those mounts. Could you spare 2 or 3 and some xtenze cords?

Patapsco must be a blast on the SS.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 14:38
timberland boots
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Watchin the Replay of the DH World Cup last weekend, Rob Warner is calling it again and my girlfriend comes over from the other room and asks "what is all that yelling???"

For anyone interested,
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Pietermaritzburg-World-Cup-replay-2012.html

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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:00
oogens
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goddamn, so in love with my new bike. i'm usually looking for ways to spend money on shit like this, but the only thing i really find myself missing is a adjustable height seatpost

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:04
jr
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Should I get this:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/ZXOO456EVO/on_one_456_evo_frame_and_rockshox_fork_bundle

A slack-ass 29er with a long travel fork seems like it would be hella fun. I'm not stoked on the non-tapered headtube, though. Should I just go for a Scandal instead and get a fork separately? Or what about the Honzo?

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:04
JonnieGonePlaid
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(Reply to #419)

johnnyraja wrote:
Should I get this:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/ZXOO456EVO/on_one_456_evo_frame_and_rockshox_fork_bundle

A slack-ass 29er with a long travel fork seems like it would be hella fun. I'm not stoked on the non-tapered headtube, though. Should I just go for a Scandal instead and get a fork separately? Or what about the Honzo?

Similar to my Canfield Yelli screamy. I really only liked riding that type of bike on smooth flowy trails with decent jumps. But, if you have a good amount of smooth flowy trails that pop you off the ground a good bit it is a hell of a fun style bike to ride.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:48
jr
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Our trails are pretty flowy but also pretty rooty. Not horribly so, though.

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 14:39
JonnieGonePlaid
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I think the fact that it's steel, vs. my boxed aluminum seat stays, should make a big difference.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 15:09
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #422)

johnnyraja wrote:
Should I get this:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/ZXOO456EVO/on_one_456_evo_frame_and_rockshox_fork_bundle

A slack-ass 29er with a long travel fork seems like it would be hella fun. I'm not stoked on the non-tapered headtube, though. Should I just go for a Scandal instead and get a fork separately? Or what about the Honzo?

the 456 line from On-One is all 26"

get a Scandal

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 15:57
jr
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Sonofa...I guess when I don't see it specified I automatically assume 29er

miguelaron wrote:
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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 16:04
akasnowmaaan
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(Reply to #424)

johnnyraja wrote:
Should I get this:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/ZXOO456EVO/on_one_456_evo_frame_and_rockshox_fork_bundle

A slack-ass 29er with a long travel fork seems like it would be hella fun. I'm not stoked on the non-tapered headtube, though. Should I just go for a Scandal instead and get a fork separately? Or what about the Honzo?

Or you could buy my Niner RIP9 20" with a Fox F29 tapered fork for a Tarck brodeal

It's not slack but it's as burly as you can get for a fast all-mountain bike

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 16:36
jr
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Make it same price as that On One package and brother, you got yourself a deal!

miguelaron wrote:
obese and unamerican
is your name Fat Albert Queda by any chance?

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 16:38
akasnowmaaan
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Lemme get back to you on that. That might happen.

Should have said it was just a cross check with different geometry. - Todd

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 16:48
timberland boots
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First day back on the trails this season, and first time really getting to run the new fork through it's paces. Few things;

1 - People are not exaggerating when they go on and on about marzocchi small bump compliance. Blown away by this, fucking stunning how smooth the fork is.

2 - longer fork raked out the geometry of the bike a good deal (69.5 HTA to 68 HTA) and it's noticeably better in a couple ways. Feels more stable at high speeds and it corrected the stupid low bottom bracket this thing used to have. Previously you couldn't really pedal this bike for shit over any kind of obstacles, now you can. Extremely pleased about this as there's a couple rock gardens that are on flat ground that are much much easier. Stability doesn't seem to have been effected at all either, so I'm comfortable saying this is the bottom bracket height the bike should have shipped with, and in general the 120mm fork is just too short

3 - Suddenly I can manual just fine. Go figure.

4 - Riding on a new section of trail, didn't see this little sudden dip in the trail and had too much weight on the fork. Hit the incline, fork compressed down to bottom out and the wheel stopped. All my momentum went into the fork, then I pitched forwards over the bars as the fork rebounded and got hella air while going OTB

All in all, fuck yeah mountain bikes

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:00
SUPERVEEPS
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XPoast from PYB:

Finally got my Avalanche built up and took it for a couple rides. It started off as this when I picked it up from a friend:

And I rebuilt it as this:




Ditched the Bomber 2 because I read too much stuff about them cracking at the stanchions. I may put a RockShox Recon or something on there at some point so I can give my wrists some relief and tackle rock beds with more ease. Any recommendations for a fork that doesn't suck but is also not overkill? Surly fork was free so that's what I'm going with in the meantime.

Stuff I added:

-Total rebuild of all components except the hubs
-XTR rear hub laced to NOS Made in USA CR18
-Vintage Carbon ATACs
-saddle, post, NOS EA50 bars, grips, endcaps
-FSA ThePig DH Pro headset
-Surly 100mm susp. correct fork
-New decals from ebay, clearcoat
-chain, cables and housing

In summary, tons of fun. This is my first real MTB, and up until now I've been confined to easy trails with a SSCX bike. I'm also surprised at how well it fits right off the bat, I only had to scoot the saddle back a bit in the rails and tweak the height by a cm to get it dialed in perfect. The main thing I need to get used to is how changing center of gravity drastically affects the handling and traction, especially while climbing.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:27
Russell
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So jealous rich, it's gonna rain Thursday and Saturday. Your fork did seem magic at the mtb park, watching the bike bobble down the mini rock garden while you sat totally smooth was a mindfuck. Glad you walked away from the crash but you ain't helpin me get over my rigid fetish.
EDIT: DAT GT

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:31
deadforkinglast
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Smitty, that sounds hella fun. Once my car is out of the shop, I need to go ride my full suspension.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 21:33
jr
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Well fucking done, veeps

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is your name Fat Albert Queda by any chance?

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Tue, 03/20/2012 - 22:18
Larry Winget
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(Reply to #432)

johnnyraja wrote:
Well fucking done, veeps

This. Looks like a fun bike.

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 03:03
timberland boots
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(Reply to #433)

Russell wrote:
Your fork did seem magic at the mtb park, watching the bike bobble down the mini rock garden while you sat totally smooth was a mindfuck

Bro, I was standing. Sitting down over obstacles is some bullshit smiley

Veeps - Recon is a good choice as long as you get one with a MoCo unit. XC32 (used to be called the Tora) is likewise pretty good, again if you get one with a MoCo unit. If you want to go cheap as shit there's also the option of getting a Marzocchi DJ fork (as long as it's not a 2008 or 2009) which I've seen specced on a few entry level XC bikes and can be found used on pinkbike classifieds for 100-150 bucks.

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 09:21
GrandmaJordan
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Get me into an entry-level mountain bike? Everyone I know is riding mountain bikes right now, and I am thinking about joining them. I have pretty much no experience, so I don't want to spend a whole whack of money, and ideally, I could find something used... any recommendations? Things to look for/avoid?

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 09:52
jr
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I would start with a hardtail, front sus something or other. You can score all sorts of nice used bikes in this category for 600 to 800 bucks, often less. I would look for something with a decent fork and disc brakes. Just search ebay for used mtbs in your size, see what stands out to you, and post them here and we'll further advise you.

miguelaron wrote:
obese and unamerican
is your name Fat Albert Queda by any chance?

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:02
timberland boots
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Cheap and not too shitty means a hard tail.

Things to avoid are if you see the words "Suntour, Duralux, Dart" anywhere in the fork description. Look for a used hard tail with at least a 100mm fork and you should be able to find something cheap to fuck around with. If you can find something with a slacker head angle (70 or less) I'm of the opinion that these bikes are much easier to ride, particularly over really steep stuff. Dick brakes are greatly preferable to cantilevers too if you can swing it. Don't get a dirt jump frame.

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:03
timberland boots
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(Reply to #437)

johnnyraja wrote:
I would start with a hardtail, front sus something or other. You can score all sorts of nice used bikes in this category for 600 to 800 bucks, often less. I would look for something with a decent fork and disc brakes. Just search pinkbike.com for used mtbs in your size, see what stands out to you, and post them here and we'll further advise you.

FTFY

Fuck ebay. Honestly guys, for MTB classifieds the listings on pinkbike have more postings than every other classified site combined.

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:04
GrandmaJordan
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http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/997629/

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1048516/

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1042368/

Any of those look decent?

Also, I found this, where the guys says he went for a ride without a chain: http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1002914/
There are a lot of those Specialized Rockhoppers for pretty cheap; are they any good (when they have chains)?

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:52
jr
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As long as that Rockhopper is an Expert or a Pro, not a Comp, it should be pretty decent for the money. The Dart fork on that second Norco is, as Smitty said, garbage.

miguelaron wrote:
obese and unamerican
is your name Fat Albert Queda by any chance?

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:58
jr
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Actually I'm pretty sure that Hopper is a comp, so avoid it.

miguelaron wrote:
obese and unamerican
is your name Fat Albert Queda by any chance?

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:59
timberland boots
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jordanpattern - Might be easier if you limit your search to California, unless you're actually planning on going to Alberta to buy a bike

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/list/?region=3&category=2&countryid=194&provid=18

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:07
GrandmaJordan
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Right - I have family in Alberta and in Vancouver/Vancouver Island, so I figure if I find a great deal on something there, then it might be worthwhile to get them to pick it up for me. I didn't see much in California in my size, but I'm checking Ebay now...

Thanks for the help - I appreciate it!

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:13
timberland boots
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The following are pretty rad and in California;

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1040921/

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/953587/ (ask what fork that is, looks to be a marz which should be ok as long as it's not an 08 or 09)

And I'ma keep trolling the buy/sell California for you 'cause nothing goin on at work at the moment

EDIT: Oh shit, if you've got family in Vancouver you've more or less got access to the best selection of pinkbike classifieds anywhere

EDIT 2: This is also pretty rad
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1019811/

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:20
GrandmaJordan
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I'm 5'6 - do you think that first one might be too small? If not, I might give them a call...

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:18
jr
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I'd ask what those brakes are on that Marin, too.

miguelaron wrote:
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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:22
timberland boots
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15 is their medium (if you went small, medium, large and XL) so I think it's likely enough to fit that you should try it out. It's a pretty excellent bike if it does fit you though. Would strongly suggest "buy that one" if you sit on it and it feels right.

Effective TT is 548mm so if you're in that range on a road bike (mountain bikes fit slightly different) it might work for you.

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:28
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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:52
GrandmaJordan
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Thanks, guys! CC, I think those are a bit out of my price range for now. They all look great, and I know they're good prices, but until I get more of a feel for mountain biking, I'm hoping to spend somewhere in the $600-$800 range.

I think I'm going to go check out that Marin...

Also, is there anything wrong with a bike like this? http://www.cannondale.com/2012/bikes/mountain/hardtail/trail/2012-trail-5-20792

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:33
timberland boots
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Shitass noodle fork and steep head angle. Blech

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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:39
GrandmaJordan
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Wed, 03/21/2012 - 14:14

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