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Todd
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The canyon one for 2600 comes with a pike.

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 21:20
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I sold my 100mm travel hardtail because I bottomed it out so much, and bumping to 120 was going to make the thing ride like shit (I tried it).

I can't imagine riding local trails with less than 120mm.

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Wed, 10/18/2017 - 21:33
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #9903)

oogens wrote:
Raising the bb on an already high spencer is a bummer, as is shortening the reach on what I presume is already a short spencer (not built around a 50mm-ish stem.

that's kinda what an angleset is for, letting you lengthen the fork without raising the front

oogens wrote:
If your pokes is a longer one that was already shimmed down to 100, I'd say try 120 if it's as easy as pulling off a clip/moving a pin on the air spring next time you change bath oil. If it requires buying a new spring/air shaft, I'm less into it.

agree

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Wed, 10/18/2017 - 22:51
deadforkinglast
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That Anthem could be cool slacked out with bushings and not raising the front end of the spencer. My only concern would be that the reach will get a bit shorter, which could make it suck a bit, but I'm not really sure how much that will change or if you should be worried about it.

Thu, 10/19/2017 - 00:06
Viggen
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Holy Ano Batman Stoppy Jobbers™
I'm in love and a total fanboy two/three rides in.

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Sun, 10/22/2017 - 10:54
yonderboy
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I'm actively considering travelling to the Åre Enduro next year. The festival would make it worthwhile for the supwief to come along, and I might be able to leave the kidlet with my sister in Berlin.

Sun, 10/22/2017 - 14:15
Viggen
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(Reply to #9907)

yonderboy wrote:
I'm actively considering travelling to the Åre Enduro next year. The festival would make it worthwhile for the supwief to come along, and I might be able to leave the kidlet with my sister in Berlin.

DO IT! I'll show a mighty good time and:
You both could stay at my place for exactly 0 doll hairs for your stay during the festival. I have a spacious guest room for you!

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Sun, 10/22/2017 - 15:31
deadforkinglast
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Put the Chesters on the ibis and went over to McLaren park to check out the new spencer park. There's a little skills trail around the perimeter of a pump track. I still suck at pump tracks and also at riding bikes, but this should be a fun new development.

A 5" travel spencer with 2.8" tires is probably not the best for this little park though. Probably need to put my chameleon back together for maximum fun.

Also found some super fun trails I hadn't ridden before. I think I've got a new before-work riding spot.

I also pr-ed everything by a lot, up and down. I have been sick for weeks and have hardly ridden at all, so I'm gonna chalk that up to the new pedals.

Fri, 10/27/2017 - 17:51
deadforkinglast
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Spent more time getting the suspension dialed on the Mojo. Maybe it's the 2.8" tires, but I am really liking this spencer pretty firm, with very fast rebound, which is different from how I've liked my full-suspension bikes to feel in the past. When I got the spencer, I set it up with the fork around 20% sag and the rear end at 30%. Over the summer, I moved the front to about 15% and the rear 25% and now I'm running the front at about 13% and am keeping the rear around 25%. It seems to really bring out the poppiness and liveliness of the spencer.

I think the combination of the huge tires and the very sensitive low-speed compression damping of the fork in full-open mode gives enough traction on the front that I am getting away with running a stiffer spring rate without feeling like I am giving up anything.

Suspension setup DQs: Is it better to combat brake dive with spring rate or low-speed compression? I have been running the fork (Performance 34 Float with the GRIP damper) full-open, which I think is how Fox intended it to be run, since it has three big detentes at Open, Medium and Firm, but it does have incremental adjustments in between. I've been increasing the spring rate so that I can sit a bit higher in the travel, which I enjoy, but brake dive is something I still am trying to balance with ride height and traction. It also seems like a faster rebound might make brake dive less pronounced-feeling since the fork doesn't stay packed down as much? I'm admittedly going off of hunches and what I think I'm feeling, but if anyone has good guidance here, that would be useful.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 17:05
aerobear
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^ Prob the giant tires affecting how you like the suspension. All my rides on plus size tires (i haven't ridden the mojo no plus tires, just a couple other random bikes at demos) have been far from lively with fairly stock suspension settings, so it probably takes dialing it in. But i am useless with suspension.

My mtb DQ: I'm trying to avoid oogensing my face doing jumps, so i think i should get a full face (my birthday's in about a month, so i could probably get one together with bday money). If i'd be using it for jumps and DH spencer park stuff, any reason to get a convertible model or just stick to the regular deal?

also giro has some nice looking colors in the disciple..


crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 17:13
Viggen
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The Giro will be fine but why not try and find a "enduro"-style full face with detachable shinguard when you're at it? Sales going on every where and all.
Don't know if you ever plan on racing/"fun-riding" some enduro comps. All I know is that I love my Giro Switchblade and only need to grab one helmet no matter what riding I'll be doing is really nice!

ALSO: "convertible" models are hella better ventilated and usually a great bit lighter than a standard ff with fixed chin bar.
20 vents and 1120 grams for the Switchblade and 14 vents and around 1300 for the Disciple.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Sun, 10/29/2017 - 18:20
aerobear
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i included that in my question, but maybe not so obviously. basically just wondering if there's any reason NOT to get a convertible like the switchblade or bell 3r?
and hoping new colors in the switchblade (i think those disciple colors are new??)..

i would put myself in the "enduro-curious" category for next year, depending on what spencer i decide to get for next season. more worried about being safe-ish on the dirt jumps for the time being.

crowding wrote:
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Sun, 10/29/2017 - 18:52
yonderboy
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I own a Super 2R and a Transfer-9, but I pretty much only ride in the Transfer-9 anymore.

Strictly from a cost-benefit standpoint, the convertible helmets are really expensive if you ever think you'll crash hard. You can basically get two regular full face helmets for the same price as a convertible, not taking into account crash replacement. I have a buddy that's wrecked three Super 2Rs this season.

The Fox Proframe does a pretty good job of splitting the difference. Bell has the Super DH helmet as well, but for the price you might be better off with a carpet fiber helmet.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 19:16
aerobear
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There's only a $30 difference between the switchblade ($250) and a disciple ($220). The fox proframe is also the same price as a switchblade? The Bell Super 3r is $230 and the Transfer-9 MSRP is $200. So i am not quite seeing the double in price. The pricing seems pretty consistent (and i'm not paying retail anyway) between brands..
Fox has the $130 "rampage race" helmet, but it looks to be super poorly ventilated.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 19:38
yonderboy
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I guess the price gap has closed since I last looked. The previous year's models had a $100+ gap in price before. The popularity of the convertible helmets might be driving the price down, too.

I forgot that 7iDP has a nice full face with 17-vents in a few TAF colorways. I haven't tried one on, but I've heard good things about their half lids.

Sun, 10/29/2017 - 20:13
oogens
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i have a super 2r, that thing sucks for comfort. the full-9 is way more comfortable, and in general feels way more robust.

the new convertible helmets are maybe dh approved now though. that was kinda the main con before, less comfort and more heat without any real guarantee it would protect your face (the old urge archi-enduro had a case or two of de-gloving caused by the chinbar).

fwiw, face healed way faster than i expected haha. meant to post the two week update last night

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 01:48
Viggen
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All good convertible helmets are forced to confirm to: CPSC, EN-1078 and ASTM-1952-DH standards because our rowdy grrrls and bros on the EWS circuit tends to want to compete in a helmet. So maybe a couple of seasons back that wasn't the case, today the have equally as good protection as a full on DH bucket but with better venting. Also the obvious choice if you are as you say "enduro-curious".

There is absolutely no reason for you not to get one, just be sure to try them on and make sure they fit your head etc..

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Mon, 10/30/2017 - 04:46
Rentable Faxmachine
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I've used the 2R and 3R, and while the 3R is an improvement over the 2R comfort-wise, it's not all that comfortable.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 10:59
liquify
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I'll weigh in saying the 3r is plenty comfortable. Even rode a few transitions at Snowshoe without taking chin bar off. Most annoying thing about full face helmets is the cheek pads. I put on the fox proframe and it didn't feel that much different from the 3r. The claustrophobic feeling of the fullface isn't magically remedied by more face holes.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 11:47
aerobear
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(Reply to #9920)

oogens wrote:
i have a super 2r, that thing sucks for comfort. the full-9 is way more comfortable, and in general feels way more robust.

the new convertible helmets are maybe dh approved now though. that was kinda the main con before, less comfort and more heat without any real guarantee it would protect your face (the old urge archi-enduro had a case or two of de-gloving caused by the chinbar).

fwiw, face healed way faster than i expected haha. meant to post the two week update last night

i think the overall consensus that i've read is that the 3r is a fair bit better than the 2r, so i try to take perspectives based on the 2r with a grain of salt. it'd be a hard sell to convince me to get that over a giro anyway, only because the last few helmets i've owned were giros.

i hear faces heal way faster than anywhere else on the body, which is pretty nice. a coworker smashed his face in sometime last year and i was shocked how quickly it healed seeing him every day.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 15:58
jamesacklin
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I will never visit this thread again, but I'll just pop in to say: I've been riding some of our local trails very slowly on a borrow-gifted SS Gary Fisher Rig (2006) with horrible Guide brakes, a dual-air Reba, and tubed tires and I like it a lot. I still can't ride a lot of stuff but I feel like I'm slowly getting the hang of it and hope to join y'all in MTB Valhalla at some point in my life

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 20:00
liquify
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When you want something new, come to State College. Have a room. Next year will have more space if house is good to go.

Mon, 10/30/2017 - 21:17
wickedwagon
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Arkansas is legit. Rode in Bentonville and Bella Vista. Light rain all day, today which would cause trails to be a no go for 3-4 days, no problem here except the rocks were slick. I liked Bella Vista's Back 40 system more than Bentonville. Mojo cycles is a really cool shop too.

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Mon, 11/06/2017 - 23:45
Viggen
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So this happened...

I entered a lottery that Joe behind Starling held, where you'd by a custom stem top-cap (for 25£) and have the chance to win a place in his 2018 custom frame build list. So it seems like that Reign SX I own will be pretty "short lived" for being one of my bikes any way. Which could be both bad and good. He has two (well three) frames he builds and I get to choose from:
The Swoop - the original Starling spencer, a slack/rowdy 155mm enduro/trail spencer.
The Murmur - 135mm aggressive 29" trail spencer.
The Beady Little Eye - his newest crazy project. A dedicated FS SS with a standard bb and no eccentric-bb/chain tensioner shenanigans.

That's a pretty easy choice for me since I'm more of the rowdy/one-spencer-to-rule-them-all type of rider. This one will really really be a keeper and the final key in making all of my bikes made out of steel. Onward! A Swoop It'll be.
So this is his recommended, tried and tested geo. He's on Mk 4 since the first iteration.

Compared to my Reign SX:

So no I of course start to think about finishing kit, colours and what not. I think I'm already set on a colour (there really is no other for a custom frame from the UK): British racing green - metallic.
The purple Hope stuff I started hanging on the Reign will surely be transfered to the Starling, I really like the tried and tested "Hulk combo" of those two colours. Probably want to get a pair of purple Hope cranks from him and maybe some other parts. He has an OEM acc. for Rockshox and DVO suspension wise, but I don't really know what I want to hang on it. Nothing to cheap but I don't wanna go I N S A N E either, sensible and good stuff is more relevant since I'll be racing it and probably abuse it some what around my locals trails/spencer park.
This is a complete Swoop Mk4, for your viewing pleasure:

Let the build list commence! All your input is greatly appreciated :*

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Tue, 11/14/2017 - 16:09
aerobear
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congrats, vig.

i'm the least opinionated on tarck when it comes to the rest of the details, but excited to see how it turns out.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Tue, 11/14/2017 - 21:55
Viggen
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Thanks! I'm pretty much stoked beyond anything. Any opinions are good opinions even though they are the least opinionated!

Started trading some mails with Joe, bouncing some ideas and what not. I really would like to visit My Framebuilder in Bristol during spring, get round to visiting Hanna at Rapha HQ as well. Could be a great trip and memory for life.

Started throwing some of Starling's basic Mk4 numbers into bikeCAD even though I'm not familiar with the program at all. This is where I'm at right now with no real clear thought. So yeah. Kinda looking at the Reign SX I ride now and what I'll be able to tweak to take the spencer to a more forward geometry style with out going full on bonkers:

Whippin Skidz wrote:
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Wed, 11/15/2017 - 18:34
Todd
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That is going to be rad Vig.

Wed, 11/15/2017 - 20:56
JUGE FREDD
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getting to pick your reach independently of the seattube length should be great

maximize your dropper experience

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Wed, 11/15/2017 - 22:13
Viggen
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Thanks Todd/Fred!

I'm starting to look into suspension options and if I go down the used route another Fox 36 Elite Performance would be awesome. But getting a brand new Mattoc Pro 3 for even less than a used Fox is really a no brainer.. I had the first iteration of the Mattoc on my Trance and really liked it and with the upgrades they launched a long the line. Particularly both the IVA and IRT makes it one hell of a fork for tinkering with and a amazing bargain. Rear shock wise the CC DB-Inline coil looks tempting, though Joe has a DVO Jade (he also has OEM contract with DVO so price could be real good) coil in the mail that he's going to try out and report back on!

Yeah there will be room for a 170-180-200 dropper for sure, the nice thing with a straight seat tube is I won't have any problem with "maximum insert length" due to linkage/pivot shenanigans :) Current Top of saddle to CC-BB on my Reign is 780mm. Shortest ST Starling would do is 340 mm and add a slammed 200 dropper to that and saddle would end up at 540 + dropper collar from CC-BB. So yeah long dropper will be long.

I'm going to try and roll around on some friends bikes with different reach from my current pretty modest 453mm on the Reign SX.
I ride a L for reference.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 09:41
aerobear
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been looking at getting a bigger spencer for next year and seeing how i like it. y'all have any opinions on the new altitude?
http://www.bikes.com/en/bikes/altitude/2018?tid=72

it's looking kinda good right now.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 20:32
Face
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Buddy of mine has an older one and loves it.

I'm of the opinion there are no bad enduro/all mountain/trail bikes out there right now from the well known manufacturers. There's some bad components and some questionable specs but so long as you get the right geometry and travel for your size, riding style, and trails you'll have a blast.

Also, most 6" bikes out right now pedal better than 4" bikes did 5-10 years ago so you can really go as squishy as you want without much drawback.

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Thu, 11/16/2017 - 20:39
aerobear
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The climbs are steep enough here that i am sure on occasion the slacker head angle will be noticeable, but i'm willing to make the sacrifice to see how much more I like it going down. Just going from my last spencer (67.5 HTA) to the mojo (66.8 HTA) felt way better for me, felt much more confident steering it.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 21:03
Face
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Yep! Also, when you're loading up the front to keep that wheel on the ground it'll effectively steepen the HTA, especially if the spencer is more plush.

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Thu, 11/16/2017 - 21:12
aerobear
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additional spencer to give thoughts on:
http://konaworld.com/process_153_cr_dl_275.cfm

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Thu, 11/16/2017 - 22:32
Viggen
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What size would you ride? I'm not sure how tall you are but I'm guessing either S or M?

I'd go for the Process over the Altitude, simply over the more "forward" thinking geo, a steeper STA really helps with putting your weight in the spencer and keep weight on the front on a slacker frame from wandering around. A slack HTA can always be played around with by offset bushings and an angle-set. The STA is harder to do anything about and RM is a bit "old school" with 74 degree's, That's the thing I'm changing for my new spencer as well, going to a 75 static STA from the Reign's even more "old-school" 72,5 will be a BIG change to the better specially when climbing.

You haven't thought about the new Transition's? Like the Patrol, all the things I've heard about it is that it's a spectacular spencer in every way possible.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Fri, 11/17/2017 - 03:25
motorbacon
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Honzo set up single speed rips. The rider does not.

Thinking of a remote lockout for the fork.

Sat, 11/18/2017 - 02:46
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #9937)

aerobear wrote:
additional spencer to give thoughts on:
http://konaworld.com/process_153_cr_dl_275.cfm

yeah I really want to try the 510mm reach on that to compare against all the ~480 XLs from other places

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Sat, 11/18/2017 - 07:32
Face
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(Reply to #9938)

motorbacon wrote:
Honzo set up single speed rips. The rider does not.

Thinking of a remote lockout for the fork.

Fuck that, just get a 22t cog and ride more.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Sat, 11/18/2017 - 12:37
motorbacon
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What about 21t? Will the chain fit?

Sat, 11/18/2017 - 23:15
Face
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Master links

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Sun, 11/19/2017 - 00:36
mdilthey
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Holy shit, I'm in love.

26/M/41t N/W

Sun, 11/19/2017 - 12:58
Face
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Wrong thread.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Sun, 11/19/2017 - 14:52
euclid
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Do I really need the seal installation tool to service my fork/install the new seals? Paying $20 for a plastic tube makes me unhappy.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 16:12
Face
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6" section of PVC pipe works great if you can't get it in by hand.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
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Mon, 11/20/2017 - 17:09
Todd
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I could not get mine in by hand.
Damaged a seal using random shit to press it in.
If you can find PVC that match the diameter of seal then go for that.

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 17:24
oogens
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(Reply to #9946)

I have a 2015 RM altitude, it's pretty meh. the 134 process feels more confident through chunky stuff. of course that's old geo and the new altitude might be way better, but it's kind of not much fun for a 6" spencer.

grain of salt, I seem to dislike bikes a lot of other people love (really do not like my friend's bronson)

Mon, 11/20/2017 - 17:56

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