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yonderboy
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Rode Black Rock this weekend. Here's my mtbro sending a road gap on his Reign:

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 22:04
hiimjoshimabike
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I want to get a mountain bike. Where do I start?

I've been mountain biking before, mostly groomed singletrack, and I have always loved it. I used to own a SS rigid 29er and then for a short time a 26" hardtail. There's some trails near me and my collegiate conference has MTB races for XC, short-track, dual slalom, and downhill. I don't really know where to start.

I've been in the habit of building up bikes for the past several years because I have had parts lying around, but I don't have any MTB parts. Do I build/buy? Buy new/used? Hardtail/dual? 1x or double? Halp plz.

Just ride your fucking bike and don't be a dick about it.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 22:33
aerobear
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Buy a complete. Mtbs get spendy when you're building up one piece at a time , so if you don't know what you want or have parts lying around and aren't trying to build it up exactly to your specification, find something already built.

Mtbs have changed A LOT over the past few years, so i'd recommend finding a newer trail bike and ignoring any good deals on stuff 4-5 years old. Find something with 140/130 travel with a 1x set up. An aluminum frame with SLX or sram gx or something works great to figure out what you want if you're tring to keep the cost down. Everyone has their own preference, but I much prefer a full suspension bike. It's a bit more forgiving on hard stuff and still fun on easy stuff, but able to move with you into more technical riding as your skills improve. Also you want a dropper post.
Without an existing preference, you will prob have fun on either a 29er or a 27.5 bike.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 22:56
Face
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(Reply to #9804)

oogens wrote:
Face wrote:
Viggen wrote:
I like where this build is going, you def need to take it somewhere and try a shuttle service/try a enduro race somewhere.

I think Face & Oogens would have your back.

yes

but I also moved like 1200 miles east

but the highest level of support in spirit

and +1 to sucking, I'm still fat and slow and just do the mtbro thing for the chill vibes

Road trip!

It like 5 years.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 23:02
yonderboy
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(Reply to #9805)

hiimjoshimabike wrote:
Do I build/buy? Buy new/used? Hardtail/dual? 1x or double? Halp plz.

Find a use Trance, Stumpjumper, or Remedy in your size and price range on Pinkbike. Those are all in the mid travel range for a FS and should be fully capable all mountain machines.

My recommendation for components is get something that will get you rolling and upgrade as things wear and/or break.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 23:34
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #9806)

aerobear wrote:
Buy a complete. Mtbs get spendy when you're building up one piece at a time , so if you don't know what you want or have parts lying around and aren't trying to build it up exactly to your specification, find something already built.

Mtbs have changed A LOT over the past few years, so i'd recommend finding a newer trail bike and ignoring any good deals on stuff 4-5 years old. Find something with 140/130 travel with a 1x set up. An aluminum frame with SLX or sram gx or something works great to figure out what you want if you're tring to keep the cost down. Everyone has their own preference, but I much prefer a full suspension bike. It's a bit more forgiving on hard stuff and still fun on easy stuff, but able to move with you into more technical riding as your skills improve. Also you want a dropper post.
Without an existing preference, you will prob have fun on either a 29er or a 27.5 bike.

Backing all of this. Amy has good taste in mountain bikes.

I would also add that if you come across a good deal on a newer bike with a lower end drivetrain (NX, Deore, etc), that could still be a good way to go. My current bike has an NX drivetrain and even the cheap shit now is better than the 9-speed SRAM X9 stuff I loved the shit out of a few years ago, especially now that nobody uses front derailleurs anymore. Upgrading a single shifter and derailleur down the line is not that expensive if you end up really wanting to do that.

Wed, 09/27/2017 - 00:08
motorbacon
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Slammed the Honzo together tonight. Started the wheel builds at 6pm and used brass spoke head washers for shits and giggles. Wheels were done by 7:30. Set up tape and tubeless by 8pm. Tracked down a rear IS 180 adapter and wasted 10 minutes there. Started brake hose cutting ag at 8:30pm and finished the cuts, bleeds and Reverb cut and bleeding by 9pm. Face showed up to ride at the store and 9:15pm the bike was done.

Had someone set up a shop cam, you'd think I did a few lines of coke and built a bike.

Bike rode well! Needs shorter stem and lower on the steertube. We had lighting issues and finished the flask rather quicky, and then the ranger yelled at us, so we cut the ride short.

Still was great to get out.

Thu, 09/28/2017 - 05:25
JUGE FREDD
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this seems like a pretty fuckin dope build for the money:

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/stache/stache-5/p/2019000-2018/

I did not know Shimano was making a HG50 11-42 10-speed cassette

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 09/28/2017 - 22:33
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I've been thinking about a Stache 7 for a while, but I don't have the will to sit and watch videos for hours until I am a Trek "Ninja" and earn a discount.

Especially when I can text Hoff and get a Kona for EP.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 00:53
deadforkinglast
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Can't you just get stoned and leave the videos playing while you tarck or eat or something?

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 01:27
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Nah, you gotta take quizzes on the subject matter.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 09:27
Face
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Buy a 6er for a shop grom to do it for ya. That's how I got di2 certified bitd. Works for online traffic school too.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 10:47
liquify
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Ha ha. Not a bad idea.
Giant and cdale you can just take quizzes and pass most without watching. I had to pay more attention with lefty service videos as they asked about part numbers.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 11:07
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #9814)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Nah, you gotta take quizzes on the subject matter.

But I remember the Shimano quizzes being really easy. I would mute the video and tarck and then take the quiz and pass without much trouble. It's multiple choice, iirc?

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 11:45
Tail Hook Lengthener
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People, I am not paying some child to take a quiz for me. I've been working for Trek dealers for ten years; if there were an easy solution to this problem that didn't involve 5 hours of my time, I would have found it.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 11:55
Whippin Skidz
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This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 16:31
iwillbe
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Use half of a Specialized certification and a vintage 90's Cannondale certification to equal a modern Trek certification - you probably have those lying around already, right?

All music is just the Eagles with different geometry.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 16:34
Viggen
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(Reply to #9818)

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Sig'd for absolute truth.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 16:48
motorbacon
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Do you have a creak on your bike? Have you spent 3 hours checking the bb, crank, direct mount chainring, tensioning wheels, lubing spoke crossings, lubing spoke heads in hub, swapping out wheels, cassettes, star ratchets, star ratchet springs, removing sliders and greasing everything, lubing maxle, removing b link bolt and mounting bolt and greasing and the CREAK IS STILL THERE?

Solution. Check your clutch assembly on the derailleur. Put in a drop of tenacious and spun the clutch with the 4mm.

Silence.

Obviously, it is my own bike and not a customer's. Would've been a 250 dollar bill had it been an hourly rate project...

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 17:02
jawn doe
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the trek quizzes are actually hard. shimano you (used to be able to anyway- haven't tried in a while) could hit back and put in the right answer. i used 2 monitors and a note pad to pass the trek quizzes. now in bike share it's just a flat newbie ep with no quizzes.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 22:41
ckd
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Life hack: On a lot of those quizzes, you can right click the "next" button and open it in a new tab. Then you can take the quiz and watch the video at the same time.

I've gotten thru a few certs at work that way. Also, you probably don't want me doing your first aid or CPR.

Spencer Raleigh, Medical Panini

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 22:42
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Trek has this shit on lockdown. You watch the video, and then you take the quiz, and you can't get a single wrong answer, or else you have to redo everything.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 09/29/2017 - 22:54
aerobear
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(Reply to #9823)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Trek has this shit on lockdown. You watch the video, and then you take the quiz, and you can't get a single wrong answer, or else you have to redo everything.

dude, the trek quizzes are not hard. it's multiple choice. just take the quiz like 5 times. you can skip the video. also you coworkers probably all know the answers if they already did the quizzes. literally all of us had ninja status in my shop days.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Sat, 09/30/2017 - 01:11
circuithero
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Trek drops those deals every now and then if you stay at ninja status. You just gotta pay attention cause they drop courses fast.

Sat, 09/30/2017 - 01:53
jawn doe
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(Reply to #9825)

aerobear wrote:
Wintage Townie wrote:
Trek has this shit on lockdown. You watch the video, and then you take the quiz, and you can't get a single wrong answer, or else you have to redo everything.

dude, the trek quizzes are not hard. it's multiple choice. just take the quiz like 5 times. you can skip the video. also you coworkers probably all know the answers if they already did the quizzes. literally all of us had ninja status in my shop days.

some quizzes they switched the order of questions and the order of answers between attempts (at least 3 years ago). . you needed to note what question was what to just plow through by order of elimination and at that point, paying full attention made more sense

Sat, 09/30/2017 - 21:23
anomaly

Getting back into this. Ordered an '18 Enduro Pro 29 in Cali Fade.

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 12:35
deadforkinglast
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Oh shit nate is gonna ride bikes again?

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 17:37
liquify
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Fug yeah, that's a dope looking biek! In the running for my next biek, though lately I have been back on the Jekyll bandwagon.

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 18:20
deadforkinglast
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Fucking Sam motherfucking Hill, man. EWS champion. On flat pedals.

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 19:39
jamey
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Is there good EWS video coverage anywhere?

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 21:02
jamey
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(Reply to #9831)

anomaly wrote:
Getting back into this. Ordered an '18 Enduro Pro 29 in Cali Fade.

Hell yes to this, I just wish you decided to get back into mtbs when we were in Moab last week!!

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 21:03
liquify
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The pinkbike/ews recaps on youtube are usually pretty good and put out quite early in the week.

Sun, 10/01/2017 - 21:09
anomaly
(Reply to #9833)

jamey wrote:
anomaly wrote:
Getting back into this. Ordered an '18 Enduro Pro 29 in Cali Fade.

Hell yes to this, I just wish you decided to get back into mtbs when we were in Moab last week!!

The Can Am was way radder.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 13:44
shane.rrr
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Rode the first annual Red River Gorge 100 MTB race. But did not ride on a MTB, Rode my Grando with Horizons which actually worked well. This course has such a huge mix of pavement, nice gravel, big ugly gravel and mud and rock filled jeep trails that no one bike type excels through out the whole course. Maybe a hardtail but there is enough pavement and smooth gravel that cross bikes and bikes such as my Grando definitely had an advantage on those surfaces. SO MUCH HIKE AND BIKE straight up Appalachian knobs.

I had a time of 10:30 hours. The winner finished in 5:50 hours or something ridiculous like that. Super human.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 14:15
aerobear
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Jamey'd my fork this weekend.. put a scratch in my fox factory/kashima stanchion :( :( :(

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 14:57
lukasz
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the only thing I ever hear about kashima is how people scratch it and ruin their forks

kind of counterintuitive atmo

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 15:01
aerobear
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(Reply to #9837)

lukasz wrote:
the only thing I ever hear about kashima is how people scratch it and ruin their forks

kind of counterintuitive atmo

i would have scratched it regardless of the coating. just more of a wth because more expensive to replace.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 15:02
lukasz
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yeah, bummer!

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 15:06
liquify
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Relevant to this thread.
I accidentally'd


x2
Need to think about accessorizing colors. Maybe some anno purple.
I haven't heard good things about the frequency team rims, but I may try to destroy them before worrying about replacement.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 16:02
hiimjoshimabike
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What's tarck's opinion on Lefty? I have the opportunity to get a trail bike (140 mm FS), and a 2015 Scalpel Trigger with a Supermax Lefty is on my short list (along with a Trance).

Just ride your fucking bike and don't be a dick about it.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 16:12
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #9841)

lukasz wrote:
the only thing I ever hear about kashima is how people scratch it and ruin their forks

kind of counterintuitive atmo

Disclosure: I don't know shit about MTBs
Why don't manufacturers put those rubber accordion cover things on modern forks?
I realize the are tacky & likely the pie-plates of mountain bikes but I would totally rock one if it meant no ruined forks on a bike designed to be tossed around in the woods.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 16:56
JUGE FREDD
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Lefty is great, though it often comes with cannondale's other less great wackiness

but isn't the Scalpel a steep short travel XC race bike? someone put a longer Lefty on it?

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 16:56
hiimjoshimabike
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(Reply to #9843)

Oops, meant Trigger. Fixed.

Just ride your fucking bike and don't be a dick about it.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 17:15
liquify
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yeah, that sounds funky. Is it is Trigger? That was around that amount of travel, but it had the dyad rear shock. Good, but not really user/shop serviceable.

Lefty is pretty great. Especially newer ones where you reset bearing migration by bottoming out the fork. They are stiff, light, and taking the front wheel off isn't a big deal (just a bit longer than thru axle)

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 17:15
crabbi
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looking to sell my tt bike and get either a giant 27.5 anthem, trance, scott genius 29, or even a specialized (if i can find a good deal).

Sneaky Viking wrote:
if you're here, you probably fucked up somewhere along the line.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 17:38
liquify
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Anthem 27.5 look fun now with 130/110, so still easy enough to remain hella playful. And todd dominated sedona on his.
Trance is getting up in travel and potentially fun if you are looking at having more fun on the way down.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 17:52
jamey
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(Reply to #9847)

aerobear wrote:
Jamey'd my fork this weekend.. put a scratch in my fox factory/kashima stanchion :( :( :(

Nooooooo. Mojo fixed me up and it's working ok, but I know that mine is going to be a constant battle, with it only being about an inch above the seal.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 18:10
oogens
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(Reply to #9848)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
lukasz wrote:
the only thing I ever hear about kashima is how people scratch it and ruin their forks

kind of counterintuitive atmo

Disclosure: I don't know shit about MTBs
Why don't manufacturers put those rubber accordion cover things on modern forks?
I realize the are tacky & likely the pie-plates of mountain bikes but I would totally rock one if it meant no ruined forks on a bike designed to be tossed around in the woods.

A lot is ditching 90s aesthetic, also heard there might be issues of getting abrasives between the boot and the stanchion, wearing it out, and making it less likely users wipe down the stanchion/seal head.

Guessing it's entirely for looks tho

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 18:14
ckd
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(Reply to #9849)

oogens wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
lukasz wrote:
the only thing I ever hear about kashima is how people scratch it and ruin their forks

kind of counterintuitive atmo

Disclosure: I don't know shit about MTBs
Why don't manufacturers put those rubber accordion cover things on modern forks?
I realize the are tacky & likely the pie-plates of mountain bikes but I would totally rock one if it meant no ruined forks on a bike designed to be tossed around in the woods.

A lot is ditching 90s aesthetic, also heard there might be issues of getting abrasives between the boot and the stanchion, wearing it out, and making it less likely users wipe down the stanchion/seal head.

Guessing it's entirely for looks tho

90's shop bros used to tell me this. I dunno if it was true, but the fear was enough to make me cut off my rubber bootz.

Spencer Raleigh, Medical Panini

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 19:10
tehschkott
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2018 Trek Stache 5 - 19.5 initial pics by Scott Gamble, on Flickr

3in tires
Dropper post
Susp fork
Out the door in PDX, no tax, no shipping, as pictured, $1499
19.5inch sizeway
Now it lives with me
Click link for ever so short good-pics albumsauce

As you were.

DO NOT CONSTRUE MY COMMENTS AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF BICYCLING. BIKES ARE DANGEROUS, EXPENSIVE, AND EXHAUSTING. DO NOT RIDE THEM.

Mon, 10/02/2017 - 22:48

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