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jamey
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Yeah, I really like my specialized post. I hated the earlier command posts, but the new blacklite posts are great. The Fox Transfer is also pretty rad.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Wed, 09/13/2017 - 09:17
Viggen
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I'm going to fit a E13 trs+ on my Reign when I have the €€€. Did really good in this test and I like the simplicity of it, I'd like to service my own stuff and at almost half the price of the Fox Transfer it's a no brainer. I think it's really fucking cheap of Fox to not even INCLUDE A REMOTE IN THE PRICE!

Here's the guts of it on the right:

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Wed, 09/13/2017 - 09:59
aerobear
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i like my fox transfer. though it didnt take long to develop a decent amount of side to side play. it used to be so tight. now its got dat side wobble.

hit the dirt jumps today. finally _mostly_ clearing the step up jumps at the end, just barely. feels good though. i don't nail it every time, but my last 8 runs or so i got it 5 out of 8 times, so that seemed like a good record.
starting to get mildly dirt jumper curious.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Wed, 09/13/2017 - 22:46
Viggen
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Seems like all droppers develop some play sooner or later, my reverb has some but it doesn't bother me much when I'm on the bike.

Yay for clearing dirt-jumps! I really want to get my hands on my brothers old Spec P1 Cromo with 24" and a rear brake, need to go down to my parents and get it!
My mind is kinda still having problems with gap-jumps even though I clear 10 meter tabletops on my Reign.. I think doing small gap stuff in the dirt might help with that :)

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 05:07
zach
(Reply to #9755)

Viggen wrote:
E13 trs+

These look really nice but I'm only finding 30.9mm stock in 150mm lengthways which may be too big for my small frame/seat tube. I think minimum insertion plus top position will be too tall.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 06:59
Viggen
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Here's some data on min insertion+stack+cablethingy in the bottom of the post.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 07:42
liquify
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jonniegoneplaid's new 29er enduro.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 08:46
motorbacon
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All these enduro bikes in the last two years have completely ruined my life. I want one, but can't seem to get myself to spend the money on one.

Maybe it's the fact I work on all these bikes on a daily basis and see all the little issues, that aren't really issues, and talk myself out of owning rad mountain bikes.

In the meantime, I'm thinking how I can build up the Honzo I just picked up and am thinking something stupid like this Rock Lobster

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 12:00
yonderboy
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(Reply to #9759)

Viggen wrote:
My mind is kinda still having problems with gap-jumps even though I clear 10 meter tabletops on my Reign.. I think doing small gap stuff in the dirt might help with that :)

I had to get over that fear this year. Clearing smaller doubles/gaps first helped me with figuring out approach speed. I realized I was coming in way too hot.

I cased the fuck out of a small double during a race and nearly sent myself into the trees. I am not sure how I managed to hang on, but I bottomed out all 160 mm of my travel.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 13:05
aerobear
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(Reply to #9760)

yonderboy wrote:
Viggen wrote:
My mind is kinda still having problems with gap-jumps even though I clear 10 meter tabletops on my Reign.. I think doing small gap stuff in the dirt might help with that :)

I had to get over that fear this year. Clearing smaller doubles/gaps first helped me with figuring out approach speed. I realized I was coming in way too hot.

I cased the fuck out of a small double during a race and nearly sent myself into the trees. I am not sure how I managed to hang on, but I bottomed out all 160 mm of my travel.

yeah, i spent all my time fearing any sort of gap, but clearing med sized tabletops. eventually i realized that if i land gently, even if i don't clear a gap, it's usually OK on small/med level stuff. body position has made all the difference for me on whether i clear them or not, way more than speed. realized by practicing one fairly soft double/gap on the med slopestyle, even if i don't land it right, i'm still OK. I kept going into it full speed and not clearing it.. So i went over to the small dirt jumps and started working on my body position, making sure to pull the bars up a bit in the air, then focusing on getting my body more vertical/less leaned over. Once I started aiming my torso straight forward and not down, i was clearing the tabletop on the small DJ line no problem. Went back to slopestyle and had that jump i couldnt get with no issues, just easily popping right over it.

The medium dirt jump line is 4 jumps with small gaps (not very long jumps), but flat. Without gravity, form gets a lot more important on the last two jumps. So that's been my focus. Between 2 and 3, there's a roller to pump. Between 3 and 4, there's another not quite roller to pump that i'm still not quit gaining enough momentum into. The last jump is tall, but short, so i'm only clearing it by doing a small bike throw over it. Next step is to work on getting more altitude over it. The lip is steep enough to get the front end up, but i am just not coming in with enough momentum. There's no space for pedaling, so the whole run requires just carrying momentum and generating more momentum over the jumps.

Really happy with the progress i've made by just constant repetition though.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 15:16
Todd
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(Reply to #9761)

motorbacon wrote:
All these enduro bikes in the last two years have completely ruined my life. I want one, but can't seem to get myself to spend the money on one.

Maybe it's the fact I work on all these bikes on a daily basis and see all the little issues, that aren't really issues, and talk myself out of owning rad mountain bikes.

In the meantime, I'm thinking how I can build up the Honzo I just picked up and am thinking something stupid like this Rock Lobster

I would be all over that bike.

ALso, the Hozo is pretty much an enduro bike.

Thu, 09/14/2017 - 23:35
jamey
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(Reply to #9762)

Viggen wrote:
Elbows get the Scott soldier II, stays the fuck in place/doesn't wander around your arm and are well ventilated.

What the hell?? I bought these, and they ripped as soon as I tried putting them on.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Fri, 09/15/2017 - 01:07
oogens
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(Reply to #9763)

aerobear wrote:
yonderboy wrote:
Viggen wrote:
My mind is kinda still having problems with gap-jumps even though I clear 10 meter tabletops on my Reign.. I think doing small gap stuff in the dirt might help with that :)

I had to get over that fear this year. Clearing smaller doubles/gaps first helped me with figuring out approach speed. I realized I was coming in way too hot.

I cased the fuck out of a small double during a race and nearly sent myself into the trees. I am not sure how I managed to hang on, but I bottomed out all 160 mm of my travel.

yeah, i spent all my time fearing any sort of gap, but clearing med sized tabletops. eventually i realized that if i land gently, even if i don't clear a gap, it's usually OK on small/med level stuff. body position has made all the difference for me on whether i clear them or not, way more than speed. realized by practicing one fairly soft double/gap on the med slopestyle, even if i don't land it right, i'm still OK. I kept going into it full speed and not clearing it.. So i went over to the small dirt jumps and started working on my body position, making sure to pull the bars up a bit in the air, then focusing on getting my body more vertical/less leaned over. Once I started aiming my torso straight forward and not down, i was clearing the tabletop on the small DJ line no problem. Went back to slopestyle and had that jump i couldnt get with no issues, just easily popping right over it.

The medium dirt jump line is 4 jumps with small gaps (not very long jumps), but flat. Without gravity, form gets a lot more important on the last two jumps. So that's been my focus. Between 2 and 3, there's a roller to pump. Between 3 and 4, there's another not quite roller to pump that i'm still not quit gaining enough momentum into. The last jump is tall, but short, so i'm only clearing it by doing a small bike throw over it. Next step is to work on getting more altitude over it. The lip is steep enough to get the front end up, but i am just not coming in with enough momentum. There's no space for pedaling, so the whole run requires just carrying momentum and generating more momentum over the jumps.

Really happy with the progress i've made by just constant repetition though.

hy

i need to mess around at valmont or ruby hill more

Fri, 09/15/2017 - 01:44
aerobear
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(Reply to #9764)

oogens wrote:
aerobear wrote:
yonderboy wrote:
Viggen wrote:
My mind is kinda still having problems with gap-jumps even though I clear 10 meter tabletops on my Reign.. I think doing small gap stuff in the dirt might help with that :)

I had to get over that fear this year. Clearing smaller doubles/gaps first helped me with figuring out approach speed. I realized I was coming in way too hot.

I cased the fuck out of a small double during a race and nearly sent myself into the trees. I am not sure how I managed to hang on, but I bottomed out all 160 mm of my travel.

yeah, i spent all my time fearing any sort of gap, but clearing med sized tabletops. eventually i realized that if i land gently, even if i don't clear a gap, it's usually OK on small/med level stuff. body position has made all the difference for me on whether i clear them or not, way more than speed. realized by practicing one fairly soft double/gap on the med slopestyle, even if i don't land it right, i'm still OK. I kept going into it full speed and not clearing it.. So i went over to the small dirt jumps and started working on my body position, making sure to pull the bars up a bit in the air, then focusing on getting my body more vertical/less leaned over. Once I started aiming my torso straight forward and not down, i was clearing the tabletop on the small DJ line no problem. Went back to slopestyle and had that jump i couldnt get with no issues, just easily popping right over it.

The medium dirt jump line is 4 jumps with small gaps (not very long jumps), but flat. Without gravity, form gets a lot more important on the last two jumps. So that's been my focus. Between 2 and 3, there's a roller to pump. Between 3 and 4, there's another not quite roller to pump that i'm still not quit gaining enough momentum into. The last jump is tall, but short, so i'm only clearing it by doing a small bike throw over it. Next step is to work on getting more altitude over it. The lip is steep enough to get the front end up, but i am just not coming in with enough momentum. There's no space for pedaling, so the whole run requires just carrying momentum and generating more momentum over the jumps.

Really happy with the progress i've made by just constant repetition though.

hy

i need to mess around at valmont or ruby hill more

HMU if you're ever thinking of coming up this way.

Making good progress, can barely see it in the Instagram video I posted, but I'm clearly jump #4 easily now. Not getting crazy air, but at least 12 inches above the second lip. Still gotta get better on my form, but repetition is doing wonders for me.

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 09/15/2017 - 21:05
JUGE FREDD
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http://www.pipedreamcycles.com/shop/moxie-ht160/

looks pretty dope and fairly affordable

but is there a company out there with XL sizes at around ~490mm reach?

seems like the new normal is 470-480 on an XL with the super progressive companies all doing 470 L and ~510 XL, but I want something in between

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 09/18/2017 - 20:41
Gary Fissure

lol nevermind

Mon, 09/18/2017 - 21:33
oogens
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an xl process 111 is 485 it seems, but don't know if that's heavier than you're looking for

if you're looking at hardtails, the guerrilla gravity pedalhead is 495 it seems in XL. 485 for xl metal kona honzos from 2016, and any xl carbon honzo.

Mon, 09/18/2017 - 22:28
JUGE FREDD
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looking mostly at full suspension bikes in that ~120 rear / ~140 front style

Process 111 got updated to be 510mm like the others though

I've ridden some ~475mm bikes and only wanted a little extra, guess I really need to try one of the 510mm monsters to find out

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 09/18/2017 - 23:14
oogens
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111 never got updated I think, and since it's now cancelled the longest is 485 (the 27.5 ones got stretched out in the last year before the G2 update).

similarly the hei heis are also at that 485.

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 01:10
deadforkinglast
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Mondraker is coming to the US soon apparently. Their L is usually right around 500mm reach and the XLs seem to be around 520. They might only be bringing 150, 160 and 200mm travel bikes, though.

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 02:45
JUGE FREDD
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their Foxy could be really dope, but looks like all their bikes are in that superprogressive boat at L: 470mm / XL: 510mm

Transition is 483mm on XLs, I should plan a Bellingham trip this fall to do some demos

Evil just updated the Following to use current standards, but only lengthened the XL from 457 to 470mm: https://www.evil-bikes.com/products/following-mb

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 17:53
liquify
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Transition is going to 500 in the XL for 2018s.

Evil also have a slacker sta than most, I believe. They do seem to rip pretty hard, though.

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 19:20
Todd
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My bro has that new Evil. Says its rad, but took him a few rides to realize that he had to steer the whole bike with his hips and not drive it with the front end.

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 19:32
JUGE FREDD
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that handling is characteristic of all the modern forward geo bikes

I like that Evil hasn't gone to a >76° STA like a lot of the progressive bros, and looks like Transition only does that on the small sizes

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 20:26
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #9775)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
their Foxy could be really dope, but looks like all their bikes are in that superprogressive boat at L: 470mm / XL: 510mm

ah I misread that you were right

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Tue, 09/19/2017 - 22:58
yonderboy
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Well, MTB racing season is over in Oregon. There's 15" of snow on Hood and at least that much on Bachelor.

Hopefully, I can get a few more days of riding in before the trails all turn to peanut butter.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 00:20
tjayk
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(Reply to #9777)

yonderboy wrote:
Well, MTB racing season is over in Oregon. There's 15" of snow on Hood and at least that much on Bachelor.

Hopefully, I can get a few more days of riding in before the trails all turn to peanut butter.

This is not the right place to express my preference for snow, so I won't say it... Oops!

Don't you have some low elevation year round spots in OR? There's quite a few options in Washington for people that don't like to ski.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 12:09
yummygooey

Does anyone have any intel on Oakridge conditions? I was thinking about going there next week but am unsure of the trail status. I looked at the fire reports but I'm entirely unfamiliar with the area.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 12:30
aerobear
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(Reply to #9779)

tjayk wrote:
yonderboy wrote:
Well, MTB racing season is over in Oregon. There's 15" of snow on Hood and at least that much on Bachelor.

Hopefully, I can get a few more days of riding in before the trails all turn to peanut butter.

This is not the right place to express my preference for snow, so I won't say it... Oops!

Don't you have some low elevation year round spots in OR? There's quite a few options in Washington for people that don't like to ski.

there's lots of places to ride in OR that don't get snowed over.. just mostly in places that get a lot of rain..

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 20:55
circuithero
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Did I miss something?

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 21:26
aerobear
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(Reply to #9781)

circuithero wrote:

Did I miss something?

jenson got some brand's stockpile of OEM fox factory forks?

i didnt pay attention to what changed, but there's different manuals and such up on fox's site for MY2018 forks

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 22:23
circuithero
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Thank god I work in a service heavy shop because shops are getting fucked right now if they don't sell sram.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 22:34
yonderboy
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(Reply to #9783)

tjayk wrote:
yonderboy wrote:
Well, MTB racing season is over in Oregon. There's 15" of snow on Hood and at least that much on Bachelor.

Hopefully, I can get a few more days of riding in before the trails all turn to peanut butter.

This is not the right place to express my preference for snow, so I won't say it... Oops!

Don't you have some low elevation year round spots in OR? There's quite a few options in Washington for people that don't like to ski.

There's a special brand of militant stewardship going on in the Northern region, lately. There are some spots where you don't want to get caught riding wet trails. There are other places that drain pretty well and are rideable year round, though.

This weekend's race was cancelled on account of snow, but now it's time for snow sliding.

Fri, 09/22/2017 - 23:54
motorbacon
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XTR/XT mix or GX Eagle? The lack of dumping two gears and the 2 tooth jumps for the sake of achieving a wider range on GX may drive me nuts.

32/11 is plenty for what I ride and 32/46 is a bail out for me.

I have until Monday to decide. Haha. Help!

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 06:57
Face
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No XTR, full XT and buy an espresso.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 12:19
tjayk
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(Reply to #9786)

Face wrote:
No XTR, full XT and buy an espresso.

but xtr brakes are amazing, definitely noticeably better than xt. otherwise i support this.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 13:37
motorbacon
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It'd be XTR shifter. Not much price difference

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 13:50
Face
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Bling on you crazy diamond.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 13:59
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #9789)

motorbacon wrote:
It'd be XTR shifter. Not much price difference

Yeah, do that. SRAM is doing that thing where they beat Shimano on paper, like always, but their stuff still just feels less well-made than Shimano, atmo. Plus, 11-sp mountain stuff from Shimano feels so fucking wonderfully mechanical.

Sat, 09/23/2017 - 16:43
Viggen
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I'm so stoked for your Honzo. This gon be good!

I ride full XT drive train but with Deore brakes, sure my brakes are a bit of a let down on paper for a full on #trenduro but they straight up work and stop me good. Pair deore's with good rotors, floating ice-tech's and metal pads alá ice-tech and they are really really good. Sure they lack some of the bells and whistles from XT/XTR but are in a way exactly the same.

I can't fux with SRAM ergonomics and I love the gear dumping from Shimano, also easy service and is cheaper to replace here in the EU.
Only difference from XT shifter would be up-shift paddle in carpetfiber. If the up-charge is worth it for you then follow Face's advise and "bling on you crazy diamond" <3

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 06:43
motorbacon
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Had XTR shifter on my Yeti with XT and then XT with XT on the Jamis. There's a definite difference in lever weight and smoothness.

Oh, ordered a 170 reverb too.

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 21:54
jawn doe
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atmo xd driver is brillian but all other sram mtb tech is meh- combine that with xt-ish shimano shifter and dangler and reap best of all worlds.

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 22:11
motorbacon
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Thought about XD driver and GX cassette with the rest Shimano, but decided against it.

Mon, 09/25/2017 - 22:32
Viggen
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I like where this build is going, you def need to take it somewhere and try a shuttle service/try a enduro race somewhere.

I think Face & Oogens would have your back.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 04:42
motorbacon
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But I suck at bikes

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 06:17
Face
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(Reply to #9796)

Viggen wrote:
I like where this build is going, you def need to take it somewhere and try a shuttle service/try a enduro race somewhere.

I think Face & Oogens would have your back.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 10:12
Face
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(Reply to #9797)

motorbacon wrote:
But I suck at bikes

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 10:33
liquify
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I have only become decent in the last year. I mean, I could ride a bike over some stupid rocky shit, but more dedicated saddle time did wonders. So, too, did riding some silly gnarly and wet West Virginia stuff. (aka visit tarckers in other states if you ever start to get bored with trails you are riding a lot).

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 10:44
Viggen
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(Reply to #9799)

motorbacon wrote:
But I suck at bikes

Dude, sucking at bikes and having a good time are the epitome of an enduro race. At least if your not hanging with the pros.
That's what the ESS (Swedish enduro series) is all about, havin a blast sucking at bikes but gradually getter better while possibly falling on your ass.

But like Frank said saddle time and trying to hang with friends that ride just a smidge faster than your comfort zone help tons. Iv'e grown a lot as a MTBro this summer. The Honzo will definitely help you with sucking less at bikes compared to the Jamis.

Whippin Skidz wrote:
This is tarck, there is a complicated solution to everything and we will endlessly discuss until an agreed upon solution has been tabled. This is out of your hands now.

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 12:43
oogens
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(Reply to #9800)

Face wrote:
Viggen wrote:
I like where this build is going, you def need to take it somewhere and try a shuttle service/try a enduro race somewhere.

I think Face & Oogens would have your back.

yes

but I also moved like 1200 miles east

but the highest level of support in spirit

and +1 to sucking, I'm still fat and slow and just do the mtbro thing for the chill vibes

Tue, 09/26/2017 - 16:39

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