Electra Ticino 80mm-Offset Fork

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stronglight1047
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Electra Ticino 80mm-Offset Fork

i saw this fork at the san diego bicycle show last year, thought it would make an interesting front-load-carrying, low trail project, and bought it from their booth for like $120. i think retail is higher than this.

i looked around for a shallow-angled bike and found that these '70s motobecanes had a 71-deg HTA, which should give about 35mm trail with a 35mm tire. a friend loaned me this frame for this project.

i built the bike up over the last week and put about 30 miles on it this weekend. i rode it yesterday without the basket and it was a little weird. there was almost no return-to-center feel at the bars and i wandered off-line a lot. it wasn't terrible tho, and after a while i mostly got used to it.

i put the basket on last night and rode it to the store this morning. the wald basket weighs a ton and it helped to normalize the handling. the steering is now pretty neutral even with 20lbs of weight in the basket. i'd say you really don't notice the basket being there, which was definitely not the case with the last bike i had it on.

if you're looking for a relatively cheap way to build a low-trail bike, i think this fork works well. its JIS, so you might need a new headset. also, the ticino bikes have really long head tubes, so if your HT is less than about 18cm you'll probably have to thread the steerer past where the factory stopped.

Sun, 01/23/2011 - 17:16
JUGE FREDD
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One cool/weird thing is that they're made in both 1" and 1-1/8", both threaded and threadless for each. I believe it's because the Elextra Ticino is 1-1/8" threaded.

You're definitely right about low-trail handling being weird without at least the weight of a rack on the front.

Are you able to ride it no hands as easily as other bikes when the basket is empty or at least balanced?

You have any issues with shimmy? How stout is the frame?

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Tue, 01/25/2011 - 08:08
stronglight1047
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i haven't noticed any shimmy, or the kind of wiggling you get on, say, an overloaded touring bike. the frame is a grand jubilee, 3-tube reynolds 531, maybe straight gauge? it wasn't particularly light when stripped, seems pretty stout. the bike is so upright it hadn't occurred to me to try it no-hands, but i'll give it a shot.

regarding the trail, i noticed yesterday that the top tube now has a slight downward angle, possibly due to the electra having a shorter axle-crown measurement than the stock fork. this would effectively increase the head angle, lowering the trail even further than i thought, possibly into the twenties. in any case, it's working really well, makes beer runs and grocery shopping more fun.

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 12:39
wickedwagon
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nice review. relevent to what i want to do with my old schwinn.

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Wed, 01/26/2011 - 01:39
anomaly

Rad.

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 10:16
dougtruck
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hell yeah

Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:23
Rusty Piton
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Hey stronglight, you recommend the canti version of this for my '84 Trek 720?

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Wed, 03/16/2011 - 11:50
bigmatt

Just a heads up as Electra has the forks on sale for $100 until 12-31. I bought two of them to give a try. I am building up my old Scwhwinn Letour former polo bike as a porteur bike with one of these. With the 700c x 32 tires it should give me 29mm of trail.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:23
hiljentaa
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Just got curious about this fork again, and looked it up - it's $100 again.

Stronglight, can you measure the axle to crown on this fork? I'm considering making my Croll into a front rack errand bike.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 22:05
stronglight1047
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yes, will do.

Sun, 01/06/2013 - 23:19
stronglight1047
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A-C is about 385mm.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 23:44
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #11)

Thank you!

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 09:28
eric_ssucks
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I think 385mm is what electra claims. I have an email from them with that information somewhere.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 14:31
jimmythefly
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On sale for $50 currently.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 13:51
stronglight1047
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also, $10 decaleur sets, cheap 50.4bcd single rings

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 14:05
hiljentaa
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DQ: The bike this goes to in the specs says fork is Hi-Ten. Wondering if the aftermarket version is as well? What does the decal on yours say, stronglight?

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 16:48
stronglight1047
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it's some fakey 531 sticker. i will check if it specifies the material, but i would also say that it rides nicely and it never occurred to me to think about it. it also looks well made and finished.

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 17:18
jimmythefly
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Here's a pic with the sticker. The fork in the background is the stock Ticino fork that comes on the frameset, the chrome one is the separate aftermarket one.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556426@N06/6479795119/

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 18:13
JUGE FREDD
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It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Wed, 01/23/2013 - 21:14
Roxy
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Get me into a bike with one of these.

Option 1: used Kona Jake, $175 and includes P2 fork, headset, canti brakeset -- 72 HTA, 73.5 STA
Option 2: Nashbar Touring (aluminum), frame only no extras for $117 -- 72 HTA, 73 STA

Obviously either of these would need canti rear + long reach front

Option 3: anything used with 1" headtube, either a decent old 27" frame for dual long reach or something with cantis

Thoughts?

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 18:04
jimmythefly
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Option 3! But that's mostly my personal preferences speaking.

If you have the time, I would buy a fork now, and then have time to properly search for a nice frame to go with it. They're out there, but finding that exact combo of size/condition/braze-ons you want may take a bit. If you can compromise on how many bottle bosses you need or are OK with french threading the options are more plentiful.

But, that's really only if you have the time and like the idea of that sweet chrome lugged Ticino fork on an old lugged frame. There are benefits to the modernness and availability right now of the Jake.

The nashbar touring is right out. Aluminum and mullet set up? No thanks.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 18:46
hiljentaa
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(Reply to #21)

I guess I'll get one. Not sure what I'll put it on yet, but I have a friggin' bounty of 1" frames right now...

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 19:10
Roxy
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Well, Jake is aluminum as well. Probably a bit nicer than Nashbar, but it's not exactly a breathtaker. And flat gray + chrome fork isn't really the world's best combo. BUT it's 175 bucks, I'd just need handlebars, a front brake, and a set of tires to get a complete bike going as soon as the fork arrives. That's a definite plus.

looks like:

Option 3 would be the prettiest, for sure. Somewhat annoyed at having to buy a fork beforehand, so I'd limit my frame options to either canti or no canti.

So are y'all doing a GB on 'em?

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 19:12
Roxy
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(Reply to #23)

hiljentaa wrote:
I guess I'll get one. Not sure what I'll put it on yet, but I have a friggin' bounty of 1" frames right now...

anything 52-54 that'll clear a 35 in the back?

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 19:13
Roxy
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FWIW i just ordered mine for 43.33 shipped

quick google for a coupon code yielded "love2013" which brought 20 bucks off my order (!!), then 13.33 shipping

can't get it to work again -- perhaps limited to one use per account? -- but it's worth a try if y'all are considering an order

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 23:24
Orc
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(Reply to #25)

Sigh, I did not need to see that ("2013love" is what I used)

Oh well, it will go nicely with the kit bike when I get it brazed together.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 00:47
Roxy
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ha, that explains why "love2013" wasn't working for me on the second time around

good old reading

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 01:11
Roxy
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just checked -- this means their "cyclo tourist" frameset comes in at ~180 shipped cuz the 20% is calculated at full price.

still do not want at ~190 bucks, but... just sayin.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 01:14
JUGE FREDD
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just bought one plus some bells and a chainring

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Thu, 02/07/2013 - 06:29
hamb3ik
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They raised the price from $50 to $70? I hate when people do that. "hey lets blow this stuff out. Wait, people are buying them, lets raise the price"

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 11:24
hiljentaa
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Good - now I don't need to buy one. :)

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 11:41
hamb3ik
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Yeah, me too. And the coupon for 20% doesnt work anymore either. I would have been all over one at $30, but not at $70.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 11:48
NOVELTYNAME
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what is the desired HT angle for the best use of this fork?
alternately, what are some models from famous makers that will work?

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Fri, 02/15/2013 - 17:55
JUGE FREDD
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Around 70-71°

A lot of smaller CX bikes start out that slack, but will mostly have longer stock forks so they'd steepen by a degree or a little more. A Surly Pacer or similar would probably work out pretty well, the stock fork is shorter so the HTA would slacken to what you'd want.

Use this to calculate the BB height and angle differences from a fork swap: http://bikegeo.muha.cc/

Received mine, I think my plan to use it on my 26" dinglespeed will be really tight on horizontal tire clearance, though it might work out the same as the cheap 27" Sunlite fork that's on there now (It's really hard to buy a tall/wide fork with neither canti studs nor disc tabs)

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Fri, 02/15/2013 - 18:10
tehschkott
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well... that's another link for the old bookmarks

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Wed, 02/27/2013 - 18:10