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Rusty Piton
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That takes way more effort than doing nothing though.

emor wrote:
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Sun, 10/15/2017 - 12:00
jimmythefly
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Bike shop DQ: I want to know if any local shops have part X in stock.

Should I just create an email list with every shop blind CC'd to ask this question? It's going to happen pretty often, and I'm not about to call 13 shops in a row just to see who has what on hand.

As a shop owner would this get annoying to get about one email a week average from me asking for stock status/price on a certain item? (or fishing for general part i.e. "got any black 5°-15° 100mm 1.125 x 25.4 stems in stock?")

This has come up because after moving here (Bend) I've visited pretty much every shop. One of them has Thunder Burts on sale for $50/pair but damned if I can remember which.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Tue, 10/31/2017 - 15:52
hamb3ik
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Blind CC if fine by me. I prefer to check the email when convenient, rather than getting interrupted by a phone call about some obscure $20 part that I don't have in stock.

Tue, 10/31/2017 - 20:14
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I basically hate any customer who wants anything from me, so I'm not the guy to ask.

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Tue, 10/31/2017 - 20:46
mdilthey
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(Reply to #12605)

jimmythefly wrote:
Bike shop DQ: I want to know if any local shops have part X in stock.

Should I just create an email list with every shop blind CC'd to ask this question? It's going to happen pretty often, and I'm not about to call 13 shops in a row just to see who has what on hand.

As a shop owner would this get annoying to get about one email a week average from me asking for stock status/price on a certain item? (or fishing for general part i.e. "got any black 5°-15° 100mm 1.125 x 25.4 stems in stock?")

This has come up because after moving here (Bend) I've visited pretty much every shop. One of them has Thunder Burts on sale for $50/pair but damned if I can remember which.

My route would be to bring beer to one shop, make friends, and have them order everything you need for you on the regular.

26/M/41t N/W

Tue, 10/31/2017 - 22:40
Whippin Skidz
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(Reply to #12606)

hamb3ik wrote:
Blind CC if fine by me. I prefer to check the email when convenient, rather than getting interrupted by a phone call about some obscure $20 part that I don't have in stock.

I set up a gmail account when I worked in a shop specifically for this case.

It never took off, owner hated to even think about touching a computer.

Tue, 10/31/2017 - 23:14
Shortpants
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(Reply to #12607)

mdilthey wrote:
jimmythefly wrote:
Bike shop DQ: I want to know if any local shops have part X in stock.

Should I just create an email list with every shop blind CC'd to ask this question? It's going to happen pretty often, and I'm not about to call 13 shops in a row just to see who has what on hand.

As a shop owner would this get annoying to get about one email a week average from me asking for stock status/price on a certain item? (or fishing for general part i.e. "got any black 5°-15° 100mm 1.125 x 25.4 stems in stock?")

This has come up because after moving here (Bend) I've visited pretty much every shop. One of them has Thunder Burts on sale for $50/pair but damned if I can remember which.

My route would be to bring beer to one shop, make friends, and have them order everything you need for you on the regular.

This. Just find your favorite shop and see if it's cool to give them a want list once very couple weeks.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 00:28
lofarkas
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Why would you need to become bros with the shop before ordering shit? If you have time to wait for stuff to get shipped, you walk in, you tell them what you want, they order it. They aren't doing you a favour, they are doing what they are in business for. That's how it works here, anyway. If it's something really oddball and expensive that the shop doesn't want to be stuck with and it's the first time they see you, they may become a little hesitant but that's about it. Maaaybe they'll ask for part of the price if it's bike with a customised build or something.
I assumed the OP proposed an email query for situations where a) he doesn't want to wait for shipping or b) is looking for the best price.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 05:16
Todd
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(Reply to #12609)

lofarkas wrote:
Why would you need to become bros with the shop before ordering shit? If you have time to wait for stuff to get shipped, you walk in, you tell them what you want, they order it. They aren't doing you a favour, they are doing what they are in business for. That's how it works here, anyway. If it's something really oddball and expensive that the shop doesn't want to be stuck with and it's the first time they see you, they may become a little hesitant but that's about it. Maaaybe they'll ask for part of the price if it's bike with a customised build or something.
I assumed the OP proposed an email query for situations where a) he doesn't want to wait for shipping or b) is looking for the best price.

most of the shops I have been into in West Seattle are so lost and have such poor organization, that unless you're big $$ or bros they are liable to lose/forget/delay/ignore orders.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 11:20
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Todd, you need to start riding over the bridge to Back Alley.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 11:22
Shortpants
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Regular just walked in to have us put some fenders on his Gunnar. After he left and before we put the bike in the stand we noticed his seattube is ovalized from being over clamped. We don't think it was us and we know he has a stand at home. But this is going to be an awkward as fuck conversation when he comes to pick it up.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 15:58
liquify
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Speaking of which, I should look into a micro adjust clamp. The free park stand I have doesn't have any adjustment, so I am kinda limited to 27.2 posts, or covered drooper jawns.

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 16:35
littletinyfish
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(Reply to #12613)

Whippin Skidz wrote:
I set up a gmail account when I worked in a shop specifically for this case.

doyouhavethis@yourshop.com

this was a big deal a hundred years ago when everything sucked balls ---match avatar

Wed, 11/01/2017 - 19:18
motorbacon
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(Reply to #12614)

Shortpants wrote:
Regular just walked in to have us put some fenders on his Gunnar. After he left and before we put the bike in the stand we noticed his seattube is ovalized from being over clamped. We don't think it was us and we know he has a stand at home. But this is going to be an awkward as fuck conversation when he comes to pick it up.

It's a shitty topic to bring up, but the more straight forward you are about it, the less awkward. It's just a bike, not a death notice of your loved one.

Thu, 11/02/2017 - 11:47
Shortpants
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Head wrench brought it up to him, he's been working on his bikes for almost 10 years. Turns out it wasn't us or his stand. He beefed it real bad and somehow the only damage to the bike was on the fucking seat tube! I guess whichever way he fell the bike first impacted whatever he ran into on the seat tube and caused a small ovalization.

Fri, 11/03/2017 - 00:33
TimArchyLime
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I broke the aluminum seat post clamp trying to remove a frozen binder bolt on a kid's shitty Vitus once. The frame was trash before it came into the shop (definitely a mistake to even check it in), but the kid wanted $600 to replace it (I think he might have actually paid that much). I think the owner gave him $300.

Glad nobody crushed his tube.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sat, 11/04/2017 - 12:47
littletinyfish
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Yeah, that's the best result. Nobody feels bad about doing something wrong, but you get to hear an awesome story about how sometimes the gnar shreds you.

this was a big deal a hundred years ago when everything sucked balls ---match avatar

Sun, 11/05/2017 - 10:16
Face
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(Reply to #12618)

TimArchyLime wrote:
I broke the aluminum seat post clamp trying to remove a frozen binder bolt on a kid's shitty Vitus once. The frame was trash before it came into the shop (definitely a mistake to even check it in), but the kid wanted $600 to replace it (I think he might have actually paid that much). I think the owner gave him $300.

Glad nobody crushed his tube.

I've broken a lot of people's stuff over the years in an attempt to repair and never once has a customer been paid out. Always an apology, and usually wave the labor depending on what it is. That's unreal to me that a shop would pay someone because their junk broke.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Sun, 11/05/2017 - 12:01
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Yeah, fuck that shit. I am not liable if your rusted out 30 year old sporting good breaks in my custody.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 11/05/2017 - 12:31
TimArchyLime
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I didn't know better. I was still new to the game.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Sun, 11/05/2017 - 14:50
Shortpants
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Craziest thing happened at the shop on Sunday. The owner is a collector of vintage bikes. Has dozens of some of the nicest old race bikes.

In walks a dude with a frame on his shoulder. I overheard him say, "20 years ago my friend stole this from you. I'm returning it to try to make things right." My shop owner responds telling him that having that frame stolen really affected him, it was actually on consignment as many of the classics in the shop are. And he had to pay the owner what it's estimated worth was. He said it took him a few years but he eventually got over the loss but knew that one day he'd see it again.

The dude described his friend as as a kleptomaniac and recently deceased. Said the guy mostly stole sports equipment. We had a discussion later about weather the friend is made up and it was actually the dude that stole it. Regardless, the frame was in perfect condition, never built up, it just hung on a wall for 20 years.

So anyway after the guy leaves we want more details on the story. Turns out the frame is a Mario Confente. Serial #11. Just beyond fucking rare and well known in the collectible world.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 14:45
NOVELTYNAME
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Holy shit

"Folks want options!"

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:12
NOVELTYNAME
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So what do you do then? Contact the owner/get money back or sell it or ???

"Folks want options!"

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:13
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #12624)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
So what do you do then?

Obviously you need to throw it into the lava of mount doom.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:16
Rentable Faxmachine
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Ho. Lee. Shit.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:23
Shortpants
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(Reply to #12626)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
So what do you do then? Contact the owner/get money back or sell it or ???

He's going to contact the original owner. He paid him for it so I have to imagine he's going to keep it. I mean, the guy was trying to sell it and it got 'sold'.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:27
NOVELTYNAME
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How much was it “sold” for?

"Folks want options!"

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:50
lofarkas
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(Reply to #12628)

Shortpants wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
So what do you do then? Contact the owner/get money back or sell it or ???

He's going to contact the original owner.

Yeah if the bike shop guy reimbursed the original owner back in the day, then I have to guess he's contacting him now a) to tell him this cool story and possibly b) to offer the frame for sale.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 15:58
Shortpants
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(Reply to #12629)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
How much was it “sold” for?

No idea. Value of the frame today is around $3k.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:05
Shortpants
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Yeah he's still friends with the original owner. So mostly just to tell him the crazy story and then ask what he wants to do about it, I imagine.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:06
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #12631)

Shortpants wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
How much was it “sold” for?

No idea. Value of the frame today is around $3k.

Dude new frames go for $3k

"Folks want options!"

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:10
Rusty Piton
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Collectors be collecting.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:21
Shortpants
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(Reply to #12633)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Shortpants wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
How much was it “sold” for?

No idea. Value of the frame today is around $3k.

Dude new frames go for $3k

The last complete we sold went for $12k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/mario-confente-see-below-re-confete-bike-s-at-colorado-expo-jan-31/111874265071?hash=item1a0c39cfef

https://www.ebay.com/itm/confente-pro-pista-track-bike-52-cm-22-la-circa-1976-one-of-only-eleven/181793696155?hash=item2a53bfa99b

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:27
Rusty Piton
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Ok, collectors be collecting but why are these bikes specifically so insanely valuable?

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 16:58
lukasz
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because it is mario confente dawg

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 17:01
Mr. Pubes
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i frequently enjoy this thread.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 17:03
Shortpants
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It's the story of the man. It's all a perfect storm of factors that make old men bike collectors swoon.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Confente/Confente_art_R_Howe.htm
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Confente_Mario.htm

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 17:06
Rentable Faxmachine
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Tue, 11/07/2017 - 17:06
Andrew_Squirrel
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Vintage bikes are so dumb.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 19:00
kmcdon
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(Reply to #12640)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Vintage bikes are so dumbsw8, even if impractical.

Tue, 11/07/2017 - 19:49
wickedwagon
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(Reply to #12641)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Vintage bikes are so dumb, but if I had money if have a garage full that i never ride because they're mostly terrible.

Ftfm

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 00:17
deadforkinglast
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(Reply to #12642)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
Vintage bikes are so dumb.

This. I totally get why some old bikes are great to ride, but when they cross that weird line from "used" to "vintage", they just lose all appeal to me.

Why would you want a bike that is so fucking precious you can't even use it for its intended purpose? Especially if it is allegedly one of the best ever?

But collectors ruin everything fun. Vintage Selmer saxophones were the best, when they cost $300 used in 1975. But no working musician can afford to get one anymore now that they run $7k-$15k, so they are mostly collectors' toys. Guitars are even worse.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 01:29
lofarkas
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(Reply to #12643)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Collectors be collecting.

I admit it made my day when the results of a scientifically conducted blind test of stradivarious violins was published. Spoiler alert: High quality modern violins that cost $10,000 sound better than the $1,000,000 stradivarius. To be clear, these were not just collectibles: the stradivarii in the test are used by some of the world's best violinists and the musicians themselves thought they had the best sound - until the blindfolds came out.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 02:54
jamesacklin
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"It belongs in a museum"

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 08:39
Face
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I used to work for a skateboard collector. He understood how silly it was to buy a skateboard and never ride it and had dozens of decks on his walls, all perfectly brand new. If he bought one with an imperfection it would get ridden, so I kinda think that evens it out a little.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 09:31
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #12646)

Face wrote:
I used to work for a skateboard collector. He understood how silly it was to buy a skateboard and never ride it and had dozens of decks on his walls, all perfectly brand new. If he bought one with an imperfection it would get ridden, so I kinda think that evens it out a little.

I used to sell skateboards (mostly longboards, but that's another story). Dealing with collectors or any customer over the age of, say, 27 was a nightmare.

If you want to see crazy money being spent, search "vintage bmx" on eBay and sort by price high-to-low.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 12:19
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I've sold a lot of vintage skateboards on eBay, and the buyers are nuts. My brother has become a skateboard collector, and his obsession is beyond my comprehension, especially since he sucks at skating.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 12:25
Perlhammered
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, collect.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 12:38
Rentable Faxmachine
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IME, most collectors are/were lousy skaters. It's cool if someone can find the first pro board they had when they were a kid, but tracking down ever color variant of Vision's Gator deck is teh dumb.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 12:40
liquify
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I suck at bikes, but I have 7 of them. And I teach, so, yeah.

Wed, 11/08/2017 - 12:42

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