Holy shit/Bike Shop lulz

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lofarkas
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(Reply to #12301)

emor wrote:
Please don't be offended. I don't really like talking to any retail customer service folks -- I like going in, buying what I need, and leaving. That said, I think the worst bike shop employee is typically worse than other bad retail employees.

Many of my friends work in or have have worked in bike shops. Honest.

I don't think anyone is offended. Just a little puzzled why you're posting here. You can put an end to that quite easily.

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 08:54
liquify
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(Reply to #12302)

Emor wrote:
Please don't be offended. I don't really like talking to any retail customer service folks -- I like going in, buying what I need, and leaving. That said, I think the worst bike shop employee is typically worse than other bad retail employees.

Many of my friends work in or have have worked in bike shops. Honest.

Petr5 wrote:
I'm not _____, I swear! My best friend is _____!

Dyin!

lol

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 15:56
Wilhelm
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Was wrenching at buddies shop, on Monday.

Grab a new repair. Tag say's 'fix kickstand'

Kickstand was installed to deploy to the drive side...

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 16:04
emor
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(Reply to #12304)

liquify wrote:
Emor wrote:
Please don't be offended. I don't really like talking to any retail customer service folks -- I like going in, buying what I need, and leaving. That said, I think the worst bike shop employee is typically worse than other bad retail employees.

Many of my friends work in or have have worked in bike shops. Honest.

Petr5 wrote:
I'm not _____, I swear! My best friend is _____!

Dyin!

lol

"that's the joke"

I'm posting here because I like posting in and reading this thread.

People are sharing their opinions about bike shops, including "I never go to them" or "This one bike shop guy is so annoying" and I shared that I don't really like talking to bike shop employees. That said, I go to bike shops quite frequently and enjoy buying things from them.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 16:20
Rusty Piton
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Today I bought some $12 plastic platform pedals from a bike shop.
The dude at the counter was wearing a tshirt from a different bike shop.
I asked him about it and he told me it was cool because the only real competition is amazon.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 17:45
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #12306)

aek wrote:
He even drew me a diagram on a receipt explaining the leverage/modulation relationship on cantilever brakes and I swear he was telling me a shorter canti arm = higher braking power. That can't be right, can it?

for the common brake designs yes that's right

the shorter arm brakes develop more power, and the longer arm brakes have much more pad clearance

the javascript for his calculator wasn't archived, but the explanation's still there in the paper: http://web.archive.org/web/20160310232841fw_/http://circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf

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Thu, 06/29/2017 - 20:36
Blakey
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Someone affiliated with circle A has kept it up:

http://www.chapmancycles.com/cantilevers/

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 20:50
Sneaky Viking
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(Reply to #12308)

Rusty Piton wrote:
Today I bought some $12 plastic platform pedals from a bike shop.
The dude at the counter was wearing a tshirt from a different bike shop.
I asked him about it and he told me it was cool because the only real competition is amazon.

Not wrong, really.

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Thu, 06/29/2017 - 20:57
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I am always wearing Recycled Cycles socks, even though I never worked at Recycled Cycles. We are all in it together.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Fri, 06/30/2017 - 01:43
aek
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(Reply to #12310)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
aek wrote:
He even drew me a diagram on a receipt explaining the leverage/modulation relationship on cantilever brakes and I swear he was telling me a shorter canti arm = higher braking power. That can't be right, can it?

for the common brake designs yes that's right

the shorter arm brakes develop more power, and the longer arm brakes have much more pad clearance

the javascript for his calculator wasn't archived, but the explanation's still there in the paper: http://web.archive.org/web/20160310232841fw_/http://circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf

Blakey wrote:
Someone affiliated with circle A has kept it up:

http://www.chapmancycles.com/cantilevers/

These lead me to believe that I was correct all along and that I'm misunderstanding your argument.

A longer lever at any given angle = greater MA, yes?

doofo wrote:
tarck eats ur soul one lol at a time

Fri, 06/30/2017 - 05:10
jawn doe
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a lot of it depends on straddle cable setup. more mechanical advantage at the brake doesn't always mean better. full size v brake with road levers barely works because the MA of the brake is so much higher than the MA of the lever

Fri, 06/30/2017 - 06:57
wickedwagon
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A customer with a $3-4 bong trek domane specifically asked for me to do his tune up on his bike. Feelsgoodman

jordanpattern wrote:
BRING ME THE BINDERS OF WOMEN!

Fri, 07/07/2017 - 23:34
mdilthey
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I had a fun day yesterday. There were two mechanics working at the shop, the head guy Steven and my buddy Noah who is an excellent mechanic and salesperson. But, Steven just bought a house and the plumbing work he did on his new bathroom went south in a very sudden and expensive way and he had to cut out to fix it.

So I get a text asking me if I can come in and work. I have worked exactly one shift in 3 years, I don't know how much anything costs, I can't fix bikes because I'm not good enough, I don't know how to use the register, and I have no sales mojo. Of course I said yes!

So it was Noah and I playing alley-oop all day. I'd run interference on whoever came in the door and chat with them in a friendly way and figure out what they needed, and then pass them off to Noah. We handled a 15-person summer camp bike rental and a few emergency fixes. It went surprisingly great.

I like working in the shop. But I would never do it for a living because I definitely suck at it. I really respect the level of expertise and practice it takes to price out labor in a way that doesn't turn customers away, because the average person is not ready to hear and understand how much anything costs. Yeesh.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 07/08/2017 - 00:38
mdilthey
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.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 07/08/2017 - 00:38
Shortpants
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I actually know that feeling and it is great in the most stressful way. A long time ago I got hit by a car and lost my job. My homies at the tattoo shop hooked me up with a desk position. Just sit at the front and feel out the walk ins (it was a street shop, 95% walk ins). Basically run interference and suss out if the tattoo they want is viable or worth the time and effort. Then I'd eventually bother one of the artists to actually come out and price out something. What sucked was when all the artists were all actually tattooing and 2 or 3 people would walk in and I'd have to juggle the shit out of them because I never felt comfortable actually pricing out tattoos on my own.

Sat, 07/08/2017 - 04:35
mdilthey
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I have a lot of respect for Noah holding it down. Three years ago, he was my student in a class of 200, but I remembered him because he had grease all over his hands and I just knew he wrenched. He's not even 21 yet and he's like 5'2", very young looking but the way he carries himself is so super-professional and approachable that he seems to bypass people's skepticism. Steven, by contrast, is 40 and is constantly aware of people "looking for the owner" or underestimating his expertise. Noah just kind of goes with it and he owns it, I have no idea exactly why. I definitely don't have that same authority and I am pretty sure it was clear, but he did and the shop worked like a well-oiled machine all day because of Noah's honest, succinct, and clear way of doing business.

So i've been letting Noah do all my wheelbuilds and stuff because I am betting big that if I live in this town in 10 years he is gonna be running shit, and I will be pumped.

26/M/41t N/W

Sat, 07/08/2017 - 05:51
TimArchyLime
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Anyone want to buy a shop and retire at the same time?
http://mongcycles.com/
It's around the corner from where my parents live. Dude is getting old and wants out.

Bonus: you get to have beers with my parents after work. They're pretty rad.

Snarky Varking wrote:
Tarckbike- Where mile 11 means you're on a long ride.

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 00:53
fixed
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all my money is tied up in bruce gordon cycles, sorry

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 10:13
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Speaking of, they have raised $1026 of their $250,000 goal. Maybe this is yet another example of the market speaking about the value of Bruce Gordon Cycles.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 10:38
kmcdon
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(Reply to #12320)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Speaking of, they have raised $1026 of their $250,000 goal. Maybe this is yet another example of the market speaking about the value of Bruce evan bacon rawland MUSA cRavn Cycles.

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 11:34
eric_ssucks
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In 25 years they'll make their goal!

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 11:37
aerobear
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(Reply to #12322)

eric_ssucks wrote:
In 25 years they'll make their goal!

but by then, will the market value of bruce gordon cycles have increased from inflation or just turned to nothing?

crowding wrote:
Every time i eat Dick's I just wind up disappointed that I'm not getting In-n-Out.

Tue, 07/11/2017 - 22:44
emor
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Bitter failure. Probably would have made it if it weren't for all those mean, old, and regrettably still alive old guys on ibob.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 00:17
Tail Hook Lengthener
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"Can you guys make this longer?"

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 12:35
kmcdon
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what

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 12:40
liquify
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is that painted with nail polish? Blood of the first born child?
How does it stay in the seattube?!

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 12:52
eric_ssucks
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"We fixed your bike, that will be $1000".
"WHAT?!?!?!"
"yes, we replaced it with a new bike that fits and isn't garbage"

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 12:55
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #12328)

emor wrote:

Bitter failure. Probably would have made it if it weren't for all those mean, old, and regrettably still alive old guys on ibob.

That's weird because 4 days ago he went through all the trouble of posting these videos with terrible audio:
https://www.instagram.com/650bacon/

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 13:43
NOVELTYNAME
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Jfc that audio
"Hello-Ello-ello-llo, were-re-re here-re-re withhhhh bruce-uce-uce gordon-ordon-ordon in a cavern-vern-vern"

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 14:07
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Holy shit, those videos are high school student AV club bad.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 14:08
NOVELTYNAME
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Normalize biking

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 14:09
Shortpants
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holy fuck the rest of his instagram is insane. Every caption is a rant about fuck the haters, fuck this and that, etc.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 15:09
mdilthey
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26/M/41t N/W

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 15:25
Rentable Faxmachine
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And this question remains unanswered:

Confused. In the first sentence you say you're raising money to 'buy' BG cycles....and then in the last you say "All proceeds go directly to Bruce".

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 15:43
iwillbe
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I don't get why these folks latched onto Bruce Gordon, in particular, so hard. most of the antics from baconland seem like they're pretty standard social media attention seeking / brandbuilding, but that one piece of the puzzle's function eludes me.

I may be putting the cart before the horse in assuming that there's some strategy at work here.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 16:46
Shortpants
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There is no strategy. If you read some of Evan's older Medium posts you can see that he basically got bullied by Bruce a few years back and then slowly accepted into his good graces after online shilling for him for years.

Basically he sought the approval of a bully, finally got the approval which (he incorrectly assumes) brings with it inclusion into an elite cycling culture. But now the bully is leaving and taking Evan's ticket into the club with him.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 17:41
iwillbe
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"Elite cycling culture" oh me oh my. "a few dudes with IG followers in the low, low five digits"? "People who win free pairs of socks at gravel races"?

But man, that story of the Bacon-Gordon connection is kind of sad. I hope those folks do something bike-related that makes them happy in the end.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 18:11
eric_ssucks
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(Reply to #12338)

Straws wrote:
inclusion into an elite cycling culture.

LOL. I kinda felt like all the PDX art-is-anal framebuilders were some special group until I met most of them and discovered that the whole elite cycling culture was a bunch of people with bad social skills sniffing each other's farts. I'm pretty much saying that they were a direct analog of Tarck. ;)

Prime example: http://www.thevanillaworkshop.com/ready-made-urban-racer/

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 18:11
kmcdon
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(Reply to #12339)

Aw man, that thing could be so rad if it wasn't so bad.

Damnit.

Wed, 07/12/2017 - 19:30
NOVELTYNAME
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It is rad
It's the 4 bong singlespeed with a nice paint job that ruins your day
You are supposed to ride the shit out of it and lock it up and use it for anything
It is the bike you already have and love and beat up

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 01:14
kmcdon
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I'm really not a fan of the welded on front rack on only one side, chainguard, and coaster brake. Maybe the coaster is kinda rad, but the one rack and chainguard? come on.

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 01:18
Shortpants
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Right, you guys get it. He's chasing a dream of being fulfilled by something, pushed further by the let down of the last dream attained. That shit is cool until you experience it and meet the people and realize they suck. So then you push further and try to reach the next level above because surely they must be different. Until the only "next level above" is Bruce Fucking Gordon, the man who no one likes but everyone reveres if only for his craftsmanship. Get in his good graces and you're set.

oh wait. You've lost your job and any ACTUAL good graces you've built up in the community for the past 20 years and now you've been ostracized and are begging for money on the internet.

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 02:48
eric_ssucks
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In other words, he's well on his way to being the next bike cool guy:
No friends, check
No social skills, check
Burned bridges, check
Cabin in the woods, check
Terrible bikes, check
laser beam, check
acid, check
body bag, check

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 13:52
NOVELTYNAME
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Do you folks like coffee

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 16:55
johnasavoia
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yeah its great

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 19:27
Roundabout
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My experience was that coffee is always welcome when I was in three different shops, so I gave it a whirl today. Brought some cold brews in as a thank you for a cardboard box. Might have also helped with motivation that it's motorbacon's shop... but still haha

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 20:20
Tail Hook Lengthener
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People like coffee, sure.

As far as tips go, I've always preferred things which can be shared widely, so fancy sodas, a box of cookies, etc. That or money.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 21:41
Face
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(Reply to #12348)

Roundabout wrote:
My experience was that coffee is always welcome when I was in three different shops, so I gave it a whirl today. Brought some cold brews in as a thank you for a cardboard box. Might have also helped with motivation that it's motorbacon's shop... but still haha

Pro tip: He'd do almost anything for a double espresso. Over ice on a hot day.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Thu, 07/13/2017 - 22:30
Roundabout
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Oh heck yes. Duly noted!

Fri, 07/14/2017 - 01:02
deadforkinglast
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Yeah, I always preferred coffee over beer as a shop tip pretty much any time before 5pm.

Fri, 07/14/2017 - 02:47

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