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Tail Hook Lengthener
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My PD ALX fenders are 2.4"/61mm across. I think that fitting a 2.3" tire would be a stretch, but they would seem to meet your needs, Jimmy. Listed max tire size is 2.1".

I just installed mine today, and they are great. No hiccups - fit exactly as expected and described. It's almost as if these things were designed for an NFE. Though they are slightly heavier than Berthoud or Honjo, I notice no discernible quality difference between these and more expensive fenders I've installed, and they are certainly better than VO. I'll post up a photo later.

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Mon, 04/25/2016 - 16:35
Andrew_Squirrel
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cool, good info. I might end up giving the ALX a try when my NFE eventually arrives.

Mon, 04/25/2016 - 16:41
Tail Hook Lengthener
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I should be at the Velo Picnic tonight, if you want to see them in person.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 04/25/2016 - 16:43
JUGE FREDD
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jimmythefly wrote:
Oh, and I did notice these

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/accessories/roll-fender-set/114592

lol Specialized is making their own Electra flatfoot bikes

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/fitness/roll/roll-elite/106882

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Mon, 04/25/2016 - 17:32
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Laugh away, but like a quarter of customers at your local bike shop think that something is wrong with the fit on their bike because they can't put their feet on the ground while they are on their saddle. Those flatfoot bikes kill it, in that category.

Also, there are now 650bx2.3 Nimbus tires. That's something, isn't it?

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Mon, 04/25/2016 - 17:37
Patch
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Those roll fenders are pretty dang short

Tue, 04/26/2016 - 14:55
drwelby
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Got the Kelpie 80mm fenders mostly installed. Still need to machine a piece to connect the front of the front fender to the rack and attach the front fender stays permanently.

Wed, 04/27/2016 - 20:12
NOVELTYNAME
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So the 650b fenderz to get are the ALX ones?

"Folks want options!"

Thu, 04/28/2016 - 01:28
Rusty Piton
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Damn! That bike is a BEAST!

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Thu, 04/28/2016 - 09:13
lukasz
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so awesome

Thu, 04/28/2016 - 12:10
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #111)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
So the 650b fenderz to get are the ALX ones?

I don't know if they're the one to get, but I like mine. The 27.5 ones only come in 60mm, which is pretty damn wide. I would stay away unless you have a modern 650b bike designed with huge clearances and disc brakes. That's why I said that they seem to have been designed for the Elephant.

If I were maxing out my tire size at 38mm, and/or running rim brakes, I'd probably just stick with what 700c fender fit comfortably.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 04/28/2016 - 12:31
buffoon
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(Reply to #112)

lukasz wrote:
so awesome

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Thu, 04/28/2016 - 12:35
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #113)

buffoon wrote:
lukasz wrote:
so awesome

looking forward to more Kelpie fenders smiley

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 04/28/2016 - 13:07
Rentable Faxmachine
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What do y'all do on frames with no seatstay bridge? Drill holes and zip-tie directly to the stays? Frame has eyelets on dropouts and chainstay bridge, but no seatstay bridge.

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 12:53
k_phombear
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(Reply to #115)

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
What do y'all do on frames with no seatstay bridge? Drill holes and zip-tie directly to the stays? Frame has eyelets on dropouts and chainstay bridge, but no seatstay bridge.

I stole an idea from my old roommate. It was to drill two holes somewhere round where it somewhat hits the seat tube, cut and mitre a small amount of hosing and zip tie it to the seat tube

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 13:41
k_phombear
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Tue, 05/03/2016 - 13:44
dorth
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Problem solvers? makes a few dif size clamps threaded for an m5

can also use a rear reflector mount and bracket.

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 14:39
k_phombear
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Oh I read everything wrong..

What kinda bike you got

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 14:40
Rentable Faxmachine
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Van Dessel WTF (demo/loaner).

Looks like:

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 14:51
turpencat
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rusty crown?
they don't want fenders on that bike.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 15:39
k_phombear
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I'd say a p clamp but it might still be short. Or you could make a pseudo bridge with two clamps and a piece of metal? Idk. Chain stay light mount

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 15:43
emor
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I've seen some road bikes with some kind of strap-on seat stay bridge here in Seattle. Not sure of the brand or availability, maybe some shop bros have sold them?

DIY-wise, I'd think strip steel with three holes, two on each side for the seat stays and one in the center for the fender. Or maybe strong plastic would work as well.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:06
joy of vaping
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The GT grade has a detachable rear bridge for fenders:

Maybe you can grab one.

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:25
Rentable Faxmachine
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Damn, that is clever!

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:31
emor
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That is exactly the item I was describing. Yes!

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:34
Andrew_Squirrel
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it would be clever if it shipped with a real bridge and hacksaw to make it detachable

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:37
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #127)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
it would be clever if it shipped with a real bridge and hacksaw to make it detachable

#EDRC amirite?

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 17:48
jimmythefly
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P-clips on each stay, bolted to the outer edges of the fender.

Or hack off a chunk of old pletscher rack -that part that clamps across the stays.

There are variosu bits and bobs meant to clamp to saddle rails that might be wide enough to use?

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 21:08
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #129)

turpencat wrote:
they don't want fenders on that bike.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Tue, 05/03/2016 - 22:44
Rentable Faxmachine
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Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:00
NOVELTYNAME
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Why is it quad connected? I mean stay/bridge/bb not enough?

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:04
NOVELTYNAME
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Ohhhh no brake bridge

"Folks want options!"

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:04
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #133)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
Ohhhh no brake bridge

Yup, no bridge. It was flexy AF w/o the reflector bracket.

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:08
Tail Hook Lengthener
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(Reply to #134)

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:

I love this trick, and I can't believe how long it took for me to learn it!

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:21
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #135)

Wintage Townie wrote:
Reasonable Facsimile wrote:

I love this trick, and I can't believe how long it took for me to learn it!

Yeah, I was elated when I thought of this. We're talking caveman-discovering-fire feeling. But like you said, somebody else (probably) thought of it long ago.

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:28
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Yeah. I was shown it by a sales guy, of all people. The shame.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sat, 05/21/2016 - 21:36
Todd
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Im interested to hear about those fenders. Do they work? Do they suck?

Sun, 05/22/2016 - 02:31
Rentable Faxmachine
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I like the Mud Butler fenders better than VO's fenders. The former are a little stiffer, have more consistent quality, and the stays don't use drawbolts. Unfortunately, the stays are steel (heavy) and 4mm dia, so you need special r-clips.

Sun, 05/22/2016 - 20:02
Todd
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(Reply to #139)

Reasonable Facsimile wrote:
, so you need special r-clips.

What clips specifically?

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 01:36
JUGE FREDD
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the normal r-clips are 5mm for aluminum stays

the bits that bolt the round stay to the dropout

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 02:01
Todd
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ok, got it.
Do they come with the special clips?
Would it be better to just buy some other 5mm aluminum stays?

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 09:19
dorth
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where can I get some fender stays for a 45-50mm fender? i have some wimpy wire style ones on now but they get bent and tweaked almost whenever I lean my bike against shit and am always adjusting them

if I wanted to diy it, what would be a good material? stainless brake line?

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 10:58
Rentable Faxmachine
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(Reply to #143)

Todd wrote:
ok, got it.
Do they come with the special clips?
Would it be better to just buy some other 5mm aluminum stays?

They come with the clips for 4mm stays. I think Honjo also makes r-clips for 4mm stays, but I'm not 100% positive. I suspect that you could use a generic 4mm p-clamp from a hardware store/industrial supplier in a pinch.

I tried a 5mm stay on the Mud Butler, but it didn't work with the clamp that attaches the stay to the fender.

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 14:35
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #144)

dorth wrote:
where can I get some fender stays for a 45-50mm fender? i have some wimpy wire style ones on now but they get bent and tweaked almost whenever I lean my bike against shit and am always adjusting them

if I wanted to diy it, what would be a good material? stainless brake line?

I accidentally bought twice as many Berthoud stays as I intended so I have a bunch of 50mm sitting, you need a pair? They're the best you can get for round profile fenders.

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 16:13
jimmythefly
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2nd dibs on yer Berthoud stays.

Dorth I have made my own stays from 3/16" aluminum rod from the hardware store. Use a Nalgene bottle or spraypaint can or something to bend them around to fit the fender.

3/16" = 4.76mm, so to fit securely in a 5mm R-clip you will need a wrap of tape or something around the stay at the clip area.

Have done this for several bikes. Seems like you can get away without the tape but don't skip it, they will move too easily otherwise.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 05/23/2016 - 17:02
lukasz
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Once Fred's stash runs out, you can also buy them from Boulder Bicycle.

Tue, 05/24/2016 - 09:22
Rusty Piton
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Except when you click the "online store" link on their homepage you get this:
http://www.renehersestore.com/

emor wrote:
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Thu, 05/26/2016 - 10:56
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Thu, 05/26/2016 - 13:17
lukasz
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Just email them. Or call.

Thu, 05/26/2016 - 17:02
JUGE FREDD
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I stumbled into a weird source for steel fenders, they look identical to Wald construction but in much wider/taller sizes and on the other side of the world from Kentucky: http://www.customvelo.fr/47-garde-boue-velo-cruiser-chopper-ancien

the Italian fella that told me about them said he was massaging 60mm Berthoud stays to fit around these 80mm fenders

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
– akasnowmaaan

Thu, 06/02/2016 - 11:54

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