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snails
Fenders

I know there has to be about 20 threads already discussing this, but i can't find them.

I was considering wood vs metal (stainless vs. aluminum).
The one's i'm looking at right meow are
wood:
hanson bike work
...or some available bamboo ones.

My concerns, are wood fenders strictly for looks or does the flat profile work well at shielding spray enough to spend the money?

metal:
VO 45mm Stainless

these are cheaper, stronger, and will provide good coverage... i also have loved every VO product i've purchased

I will spend the money for the wood ones, however, i don't want to just buy an accessory, i would want my fenders, to well... fend me from puddles and such

anyone have any experience with wood fenders??
WWTBD?

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 14:58
Rusty Piton
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Wood fenders are retarded.
And metal ones are a pain in the ass.
Get Planet Bike fenders and never think about em again.

emor wrote:
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Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:01
mander
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The VO fenders are great imo. Extra length is very nice, they look good, are light weight. People complain about rattling but plastic ones rattle too if you don't set them up right.

Edit, I bet the steel ones are not so light weight but they ought to handle lockup pretty well. My aluminum ones are a bit dented and creased after two years, but still very functional.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:05
snails

i've had those plastic fenders from planet bike, and i broke them last winter locking my bike.

was hoping to get something a bit more durable

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:06
Rusty Piton
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Well don't get metal fenders unless you want to bend and ding the shit out of them.
If you're rough enough while locking up to break a PB fender you'll fuck up metal ones for sure.
I've got a pair of SKS cromoplast fenders that have been through hell and seem to be essentially indestructible.

emor wrote:
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Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:05
VT regularbike
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Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:07
jamey
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i'm building some fenders pretty soon. thinking they will be brushed aluminum with a nicely finished walnut veneer. they will be for a project in one of my classes.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 15:30
pixieshatintruck
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i have the sks fenders and they work well
but the honjo fenders look better
and i think might actually work a little better too

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 16:04
mr. fop
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i just got the berthoud sks collabo fenders, best of both worlds. install easy and with a little ingenuity look good and are on solid. i'm getting another pair for the hillborne once they come back in stock.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 16:11
cookietruck
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i'm happy with my honjo's.

i installed some of the VO steel 45mm fenders on my gf's bike. not happy with the fit and they rattle way more than the honjo's...that might depend on if you have a bolt frot he upper mount in the rear or if you have to use that clamp thing...

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 16:16
biek

whoa, sup snails!

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 16:17
do
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sks.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 18:01
biek

sks are pretty dope, i grabbed a pair off my father's touring bike that are at least 25-30 years old- they look and function exactly the same as the ones made today.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 18:04
surfcat
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Plastic fenders are great, but if you want to try something else, why not. I think they all end up breaking / getting tweaked eventually. I consider them a consumable like pretty much everything else on a bike.

Quote:
the gearing is perfect for quick execration

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 21:17
that guy
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SKS is so much better than Planet Bike it's like night and day

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 21:30
jamey
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i like my planet bike fenders a lot. i think they key is to buy the Cascadia fenders.

truckdoug "never turn down free beer, dont stick your dick where you wouldnt put your face, and always ride shimano"

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 21:31
Toast
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snails wrote:
i've had those plastic fenders from planet bike, and i broke them last winter locking my bike.

was hoping to get something a bit more durable

if you're breaking plastic fenders, it's probably user error. my dad doesn't ride much any more, but by his estimates he has 10k+ miles on a pair of bluemels. i have the same 30+ year-old model on my trek 520, works great.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 21:48
Whippin Skidz
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SKS fenders suck ass. PB fenders are so much easier to install and look so much better.

Wed, 10/06/2010 - 21:50
RJ
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Everything Rusty has said.

PB Cascadia are so good. I'm not going to give you a shit load of reasons why they are my first choice but just trust me and get them.

I guess it is worth know what kind of build you are going with here...

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Wed, 10/06/2010 - 22:28
dougtruck
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yall are trippin the silver sks p35s are the best looking and functioning fenders around

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 01:20
dougtruck
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to me fenders go on a bike that gets locked up and beat on and goes all winter with little or no maintenance. thats just not gonna happen with metal fenders. they get dented to shit and rattle and just get generally lame. i see and hear it everyday at school.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 01:24
Patch
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Meh, I live in the biggest sea of bikes that get treated like crap and can say that metal fenders are the shit.

Those SKS berthouds look real nice.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 05:28
cookietruck
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I don't live in the US wrote:
metal fenders are the shit.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 08:32
VT regularbike
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I've been using a set of used VO fenders Nate gave me before he up and moved to the bay and they've been great for me. The front one has alwasy been a bit tweaked but it still works just fine. I just got a set of sks/esge p65s for the stumpjumper. I will report once I get them installed. initial reaction was holy shit that's a lot of hardware that comes with these. Installation is going to be a bitch no matter what fenders I use since chainstay u brake, and no hole in seat stay bridge.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 09:27
euflavine
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white folks wrote:
they get dented to shit and rattle and just get generally lame. i see and hear it everyday at school.

Cheap, heavy, badly maintained fenders on 1970s cruisers isn't exactly a good comparison to well installed AL or SS fenders. I've experienced less rattling overall with metal fenders than plastic. Since you have more control over the installation you can just put rubber or leather washers on every contact point and avoid any future issues. Besides, the ZIPPPP ZIPPPPPPPPPPZIPPPP sound you get when rocks and stuff get sucked through the fender is a sure conversation starter.

I do agree that the Berthoud Composite fenders sound like they'd be a perfect balance. Can you still slightly work them to fit in tight spaces and such? The Berthoud hardware is by far the best of all available options.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 10:13
biek

white folks wrote:
yall are trippin the silver sks p35s are the best looking and functioning fenders around

this.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 11:35
euclid
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bicwriter wrote:
white folks wrote:
yall are trippin the silver sks p35s are the best looking and functioning fenders around

this.

Agreed. On the PB fenders the plastic brake bridge clip takes up a lot of space that should be for tire. The metal SKS clip folds up and out of the way with a pair of pliers. Also they have the breakaway front fender stays. The only thing the PB fenders have going for them is the pre-installed stays, but anyone with half a brain can do that themselves.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:16
Larry Winget
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I can't stand the look of the mudflaps on Cascadias. SKS are way classier, and you can make/add your own mudflaps if you want.

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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:19
Captain Gnarlock
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put Choromoplastics on the BJ last night. What a fucking pain in the ass.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 12:33
mander
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euclid wrote:
bicwriter wrote:
white folks wrote:
yall are trippin the silver sks p35s are the best looking and functioning fenders around

this.

Agreed. On the PB fenders the plastic brake bridge clip takes up a lot of space that should be for tire. .

That's easily corrected, you can either dremel some mms off the top of the plastic or fab up your own brake bridge clip (I would use a little piece of stainless steel and rivet it on---this would also eliminate rattle in the rear). Which leads me into my main point, unless you're lucky getting fenders to work perfectly will often involve some tinkering and modification/ pain in the ass.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:20
biek

fender installation is really fucking annoy
ing.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 14:28
daedelus
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I spent a good amount of time this week installing Berthoud fenders on my Miyata. It was probably the most trying bike task I've ever attempted. I had to cut areas to fit at the chainstays and fork crown, cut the fork crown daruma down, buy extra hardware to attach at the chainstay bridge and rear rack, drill for attaching to the rack, bend the front to clear the tire, etc. Basically, it was a lot of putting shit together, finding out it needs more spacers somewhere, and then disassembling completely in order adjust. The fenders look great, but I'm a little nervous about riding with them because the clearance is so tight that I can hear the tire hairs tickling the inside of the fender.

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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:03
mander
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You should be nervous daedalus (speaking as someone who has otb'd due to a front sks fender mishap). I like a cm or more of clearance in front. maybe consider running a smaller tire in front?

I don't find fender installation annoying. It's like a lot of twiddly bike tasks in that if you approach it with the right mindset, it can be fun to solve all the problems that come up and to enjoy the feeling of accomplishment at the end. Having a repair stand really really helps.

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 15:21
daedelus
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Damnit. I guess I'm not done yet. I also don't really want to switch tires because I spent $$$ on the Parimotos and they have been awesome so far.

totallynotsol wrote:
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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 16:11
Elderbear
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Fender clearance ('specially front) ain't a joke:

My buddy's winter commuter after fender got sucked up in dat tire, sending him over the bars.

Part of the reason I got the VO 52mm zeppelin fenders for the x-check.

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Thu, 10/07/2010 - 16:12
Patch
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zeppelin is mighty sexy.
edit: try to make it work d!

Thu, 10/07/2010 - 16:42
surfcat
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TC: I've put off installing my Berthoud fenders on the Pelican coz PITA

Quote:
the gearing is perfect for quick execration

Fri, 10/08/2010 - 08:30
SeanBonham
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The hardware store down the street from me was my saving grace when installing fenders on my crosscheck. Had to buy washers, rubber stopper, nylon spacers, nuts bots etc. Just had to take my time and figure out was would work best. I enjoyed the process.

Fri, 10/08/2010 - 12:44
gusmore

I have the PB Cascadia's and love them. Would buy again.

[quote=johnnyraja]In Mexico they call that position "el gringo boracho"[/quote]

Fri, 10/08/2010 - 13:35
ryanoceros
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bicwriter wrote:
fender installation is really fucking annoy
ing.

Fender installation is an art. Get's easier with experience.

Have some PB Hardcore Hybrids I stuck on an 08 Raleigh Rush Hour I won a few years back that I use for all weather bike. Work great. Ridden through rain, snow, salt, mud for thousands of miles without issue. Use some stainless steal rubberized C-clamps on fork and seat stays to help mount. I also dremeled the rear brake bridge mount to give more clearance, although I run 23c, so not that important.

Fri, 10/08/2010 - 17:17
mr. fop
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euflavine wrote:
white folks wrote:
they get dented to shit and rattle and just get generally lame. i see and hear it everyday at school.

Cheap, heavy, badly maintained fenders on 1970s cruisers isn't exactly a good comparison to well installed AL or SS fenders. I've experienced less rattling overall with metal fenders than plastic. Since you have more control over the installation you can just put rubber or leather washers on every contact point and avoid any future issues. Besides, the ZIPPPP ZIPPPPPPPPPPZIPPPP sound you get when rocks and stuff get sucked through the fender is a sure conversation starter.

I do agree that the Berthoud Composite fenders sound like they'd be a perfect balance. Can you still slightly work them to fit in tight spaces and such? The Berthoud hardware is by far the best of all available options.

i feel like these will fold before bending. i just used cork to make it work. it was a pretty easy fit.
they look great too. classier than regular sks, but sportier than straight alum. they kind of have a racing stripe, kinda.

Fri, 10/08/2010 - 20:04
Endpoint
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ryanoceros wrote:
Fender installation is an art. Get's easier with experience.

This. If you don't have to rummage in the spare nuts and bolts drawer then you are not doing it right.

Sat, 10/09/2010 - 08:57
guysshoe
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another vote for SKS. They are simple and to the point

Sat, 10/09/2010 - 21:15
cycology
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gyeswho wrote:
another vote for SKS. They are simple and to the point

this, but throw away that quick disconnect shit.

Sat, 10/09/2010 - 21:17
cookietruck
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probably all hte fenders mentioned will be fine.
it all depends on how well you install it.
so take your time and do it right.
yes that means lots of putting on and taking off and bending nad maybe drilling until hte shit is perfect.
ps eventually those leather washers taht VO sells will shrink/compress and your bolts might loosen or your shit will atleast start to rattle.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 11:16
blickblocks
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TC: Miss my old, heavy, Panasonic conversion with full fenders.

Sun, 10/10/2010 - 14:09
snails

question on the sks p35's
what wheel width you think these will clear?

getting excited for some colder riding.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:37
Rusty Piton
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What you mean?
Tire width?
I've got 35c Marathons under mine and they juuuuust fit.
edit: I've actually got the p45
so I'd say to you probably nothing bigger than 28s.

emor wrote:
Bicycle commuting is the worst way to get anywhere except for all the other ways.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:20
snails

sorry, yeah i meant tire width. i'll probably go with the p45 because i'm content with my 32s

thanks RP

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 13:49
deadforkinglast
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Plastic fenders are where it's at. I've never broken a pair, ever, and I'm pretty good at breaking stuff. Metal fenders are cool, but when they twist, they don't spring back to their original shape, so fuck that shit.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 13:58
guysshoe
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The largest size the say for the SKS 35 is 28mm tires.

I have the SKS 50. I can fit Big Apples with them on a Surly Crosscheck and they just barely fit. If you can fit big tires on your bike, get the largest size fenders you can get that way you aren't limited if you want to change tires size later on.

Mon, 10/11/2010 - 18:57

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