Framebuildin' part 3

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halbritt
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Point being, buy whatever you can used, and then have the tools sharpened there.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 18:13
dougtruck
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Well let it be said then, if any comes across framebuilding tools come up for sale, post them here.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 22:29
turpencat
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white folks wrote:
Well let it be said then, if any comes across framebuilding tools come up for sale, post them here.

they sometimes pop up in the mailing list. but not often.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 22:59
zombie

Nice to see so many people on tarck are building now. This is what I did today:

That's before any real clean-up. Once that spot on the tt shore is worked it will be pretty nice.

The frame is a super-high bb crit spencer. I think I'm going to build one in my size right after this just because the idea of it sounds like a really fun ride.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 20:52
dougtruck
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Nice fuggin fillet mang

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 21:03
dougtruck
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someone needs to give me a tutorial on fillet brazing

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 13:15
zombie

The only advice I would really have beyond the basics is to make sure you use thick enough tubing (1.25 walled ht stock instead of the 1.0 you'd use with lugs) and make sure you're using heat sinks.

Thu, 04/08/2010 - 13:23
turpencat
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So I was chillin with my grandpa at easter and we were talking about building bikes
and he was like how much does one of them bikes go for?
1, maybe 2 hundred dollars?
I was like.... wat

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Fri, 04/09/2010 - 15:18
dougtruck
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so i'm bummed out ya'll

nova was selling something steel with a taylor CF rear end and fork awhile back

now they're gone

i fucking wanted to build myself something nice.

now im wondering what i want

maybe alpha q frok

zona tubes

?

talk to me

Sun, 04/11/2010 - 22:25
turpencat
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I am working out a nice spencer for myself
zero replica for lugs
sachs stainless lugs
pacenti bb
sl fork and henry james pre tilt crown.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 04/11/2010 - 22:33
dougtruck
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whoa

just realized pacenti don't sell lewellyn compact style lugs anymore

FACK

Sun, 04/11/2010 - 22:41
dougtruck
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turpencat wrote:
I am working out a nice spencer for myself
zero replica for lugs
sachs stainless lugs
pacenti bb
sl fork and henry james pre tilt crown.

whoa ZR

big money baller

Sun, 04/11/2010 - 22:42
halbritt
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white folks wrote:
whoa

just realized pacenti don't sell lewellyn compact style lugs anymore

FACK

Who does?

Also, I do recommend Alpha Q. Wish there were more CS25s in the world. I have a CS20 that barely clears 28mm tires (that are actually 26mm)

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 04/12/2010 - 01:42
dougtruck
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progress report:


Tue, 04/13/2010 - 16:54
dougtruck
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framebildin DQ: how to scribe a centerline on a tapered tube (like a seatstay)?
i want the DO end and the SS cap to be in phase

Thu, 04/15/2010 - 16:09
zombie

If you're really anal, you could just machine some 10.5/12.5/whatever and 14/16/17 blocks, in the same style as the Bicycle Research or new Paragon blocks, but everyone I've seen does it by eye.

I like to cap first then notch. But I was taught to do it the opposite way.

Thu, 04/15/2010 - 20:29
turpencat
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caps are for pussies.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Thu, 04/15/2010 - 22:06
dougtruck
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Like plug in caps? Eh they got their place.

And thanks zombie, glad to have a consensus.

Today I called bringheli to order his small alignment table. Turns out the table costs eight and the shit to check forks is another two fifty. add another hundy for shipping. Thats eleven fifty. And it takes two months lead time
For what amounts to three feet of ten inch wide hot rolled c channel and some lathed bits. Yeah, fuck that.

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 00:42
halbritt
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white folks wrote:
Yeah, fuck that.

This.

Which I could find a steel surface plate.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 01:31
dougtruck
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Auctions yo

Fri, 04/16/2010 - 11:17
dougtruck
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been busy, just keep forgetting camera :(

got some pics today tho


Tue, 04/27/2010 - 19:17
dougtruck
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oh yeah, how are you guys attaching your stays to the cluster? im thinking of drilling a hole in the back of the stay, so when i drop filler in there it makes kind of a mechanical lock as well....

Tue, 04/27/2010 - 19:19
radicole
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saw doug's build in person on saturday. so fresh.

Tue, 04/27/2010 - 19:24
Face
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white folks wrote:
oh yeah, how are you guys attaching your stays to the cluster? im thinking of drilling a hole in the back of the stay, so when i drop filler in there it makes kind of a mechanical lock as well....

i have never built a frame and i know nothing about it... but i would try pinning it before brazing, or at least looking into it.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 04/27/2010 - 20:55
Toast
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i sent you a facebook message dougie, re: make me a siq custom fixie with lots of downslope top tube yet no toe overlap, must plane well.

Tue, 04/27/2010 - 22:41
dougtruck
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SOEX CITD

last sec decision to grab a "unior" headset reamer/facer offa da bay turned out awesome

wish those dude made a BB tap/facer kit too.

saved money like geico for ya monayyyyyy

Thu, 04/29/2010 - 22:04
dougtruck
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ordered tubes for dougbike today.

nova OS light

they were out of some tubes so they subbed in some tange prestige they had in the misc tubes pile

also let me sub in some deda s bend seat stays

its gonna be lugged frame, modern components/classic look type a thing

kinda stoked

Tue, 05/04/2010 - 16:29
dougtruck
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ay im using those gipiemme seat stay to brake bridge reinforcers

silver or brass?

what about canti bosses?

silver just flows so good

Wed, 05/05/2010 - 02:21
dougtruck
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anyone still doing any spencer buildin? almost done with this frame. ill get finished pics up soon.

in other news:

corrosionX =/= framesaver smiley heath

got everything i need for my raod beik. need to get the drawing printed out

turp? heath? zombie? wats new?

Sun, 05/23/2010 - 01:20
RJ
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Hey Doug, care to tell us (me) about your shop? Where's it at? You the only one in it? What's your setup like?

How would any of you guys recommend setting up a workshop? What kind of places should you look to use?

truckdoug wrote:
go fuck yourself, fun hating motherfucker

Sun, 05/23/2010 - 20:44
dougtruck
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haha im in my buddys garage. my personal preference is cheap or free, detached from house in case of fire somehow, and security. i have a mix of flourecent, incandecent and natural light (best) my workbench is repurposed pressure treated wood from someones deck. pretty low budget. most importantly you will need lots of coffee, a loud stereo and a big bag of sunflower seeds :)

Sun, 05/23/2010 - 22:58
dougtruck
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in a perfect world you would have lots of sunlight, hot water tap for defluxing and someone to talk to once in a while.

Sun, 05/23/2010 - 23:03
halbritt
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I've been spending most of my free time parenting or commuting lately. I still need an alignment table. Just recently had my big mig welder repaired, so I'm contemplating getting a thick plate of steel and welding stiffening braces on one side following which I could have it blanchard ground. There's a shop that does that right next to my new office.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 05/24/2010 - 01:27
dougtruck
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pretty much the same thing i was thinking about doing, similarly i just ain't got the time.

Mon, 05/24/2010 - 01:34
dougtruck
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i am about to drop the scrills on a drill press though. really wish i could swing a little lathe too..

Mon, 05/24/2010 - 01:36
dougtruck
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i need a protip. im still having problems cooking the flux. is my flame too hot? too close? just not watching my temp? wtf. ill post a pic later ...

GRRRRR

Tue, 05/25/2010 - 13:57
dougtruck
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mmm thats better

Tue, 05/25/2010 - 13:58
halbritt
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white folks wrote:
i need a protip. im still having problems cooking the flux. is my flame too hot? too close? just not watching my temp? wtf. ill post a pic later ...

GRRRRR

Step down a few tip sizes.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Tue, 05/25/2010 - 14:57
DDYTDY
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I pick up one of these a few weeks back as a "Gift" for an engineer friend.


http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/14798/nm/9_x_19_Bench_Lathe_WT_Import_

Not bad for the money. Much better then the used up, worn to shit South Bend bench top lathes for around the same money on Ebay

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 11:19
halbritt
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Hmm. I'll start saving my pennies. That looks pretty good.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Fri, 05/28/2010 - 15:01
EivlEvo
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I love this thread. Hate when it stalls. Someone post other places to do reading on framebuilding. In another 5 years, I'd like to give it a shot (once I have some sort of stationary lifestyle instead of this pilot bullshit).

Sun, 06/13/2010 - 20:01
turpencat
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johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 06/13/2010 - 20:26
dougtruck
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anyone else having probs saving spencer cad files?

os is sno leppard

Sun, 06/13/2010 - 21:02
RJ
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Where can I get CAD programz?

truckdoug wrote:
go fuck yourself, fun hating motherfucker

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 00:12
halbritt
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http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/bcad.php

No problems saving bikecad files here.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 00:15
dougtruck
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hmm wtf

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 00:55
turpencat
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allow pop-ups.

also
how to align fork after accident? Been riding it since I got in my goose fight but it is finally pissing me off enough I went back to my crabon while I work on this crap.

also
anyone know of a way to get access to spencer cad for not moneys? can I just donate to frame builders forum and use that? I am confused on their shit.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 11:51
halbritt
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Frame Forum is gone, folded up, finis.

BikeCAD is $300ish.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 14:11
turpencat
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god damnit
what about rattlecad?

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 14:18
halbritt
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I could let you use my copy, but I'm not sure how the dude that wrote it would feel about that.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 06/14/2010 - 14:33

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