Framebuildin' part 3

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dougtruck
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Framebuildin' part 3

couldn't find the other two threads but turpbike inspired me to get crackin again.

Here's the lower HT/DT done-ish

looks aight.

favorite part, sniffin dykem

then i have a team of trained squirrels do some nibblin'

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 20:21
turpencat
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you brazed that before you even have all the miters done?
you crazy motherfucker.
where has your centerlines?

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 20:51
dougtruck
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they're on there, i sharpie a stripe then scribe it.

just hard to see coz camera sucks

i do the dt/ht first and then do the rest of the miters. it makes the most sense to me. It has two pins into the HT and one into the DT. I'll use two pins in the BB (one each ST & DT) . I do a rough align, then the TT goes in.

wat u use for rear triangle alignment?

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:39
dougtruck
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btw your workshop rules.

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:40
dmotobear
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what are you using for your miters?

I have the tubes and everything to build a frame but got rid of my ghetto tubing notcher I used on my roll cage.. it used a hole saw attached to a drill.

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:44
dougtruck
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a hacksaw and a half round file

and phil wood brand elbow grease

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:48
dmotobear
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i like it.
someday I'll get caught up on life and then be able to attempt a frame, keep up the pics.

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:56
dougtruck
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wheres zombie? his stuff is cool as fuck.

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 13:16
curiousincident
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white folks wrote:
and phil wood brand elbow grease

TC: one childhood summer day my dad made me wax the car. it was a sunny day and the wax sat for too long, so it was hard to get off. when I complained to my dad, he told me to get some elbow grease.

what's that?

oh, elbow grease? go inside and ask your mom, I think there is some in the laundry room.

ok. *ask mom. come back outside pretty angry. get ridiculed by dad and older brother.

Thu, 03/04/2010 - 20:14
turpencat
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sup

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 03:09
curiousincident
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holy sloping head tube, batman!

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 03:43
klondikebear
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the real question is, when are any of you guys going to be able to make me a frame

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 11:47
turpencat
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I probably will this summer.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Fri, 03/05/2010 - 18:48
Patch
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curiousincident wrote:
holy sloping head tube, batman!

72.5 HTA

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 04:29
k_phombear
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I want to attempt to build a frame in metal shoppe

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 05:26
dougtruck
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klondikebear wrote:
the real question is, when are any of you guys going to be able to make me a frame

Gonna be awhile coz insurance

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 13:11
dougtruck
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cross spencer 27% done. needs to be aligned/pinned/cleaned/fluxed/realigned/brazed

lightning holes yo

Tue, 03/09/2010 - 00:28
dougtruck
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hay turp, what order you do the main triangle in?

i'm thinking st/dt to bb

then ht to tt

then tt to st

did it a lil different last time

Tue, 03/09/2010 - 00:30
Face
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thats purdy.

i wanna build a frame...

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Tue, 03/09/2010 - 00:43
curiousincident
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zooktruck wrote:
curiousincident wrote:
holy sloping head tube, batman!

72.5 HTA

Woah. I definitely meant top tube.

Tue, 03/09/2010 - 01:01
klondikebear
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turpentine wrote:
I probably will this summer.

don't be joking with me, because i will hold off on buying a road bike

Tue, 03/09/2010 - 07:49
turpencat
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white folks wrote:
hay turp, what order you do the main triangle in?

i'm thinking st/dt to bb

then ht to tt

then tt to st

did it a lil different last time

for my spencer i did head tube brazes then seat tube then bb I figured I could keep everything aligned best this way. I will probably do it the opposite way you are saying just because I think it is easier to keep it in line without dealing with the bb.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 09:38
petit jong cat
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However it's turning out, I think it's cool that y'all are building your own bieks. There isn't anything more satisfying than to create something using your own two hands!!

teepz wrote:
ive never wanted to punch you in the fucking face more than i do right now, lpc

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 10:36
klondikebear
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new level of zen of making your own spencer then riding it, amirite? :D

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 11:29
turpencat
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klondikebear wrote:
new level of zen of making your own spencer then riding it, amirite? :D

makes all other zen child's play
and I will probably start making frames this summer so long as you promise never to ride it. Min insurance premium is 1750 or something. I can't afford that, but I am applying to a couple artist in residence jobs so I will have studio space and nothing to do all summer

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 11:41
klondikebear
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wait so i can't ride the spencer?

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 12:06
dougtruck
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really? I think aligning the ST to the HT with a bullet level , then the bottom of the BB to the HT with 180* carpenters level makes for a pretty straight frame. all i do then is check from the front of the BB to the centerline on the backside of the headtube and if my logic is correct the spencer is within a mm of straight. If it's off a bit i can final tweak before doing the TT miters and lug brazing

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 13:11
Whippin Skidz
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turpentine wrote:
klondikebear wrote:
new level of zen of making your own spencer then riding it, amirite? :D

makes all other zen child's play
and I will probably start making frames this summer so long as you promise never to ride it. Min insurance premium is 1750 or something. I can't afford that, but I am applying to a couple artist in residence jobs so I will have studio space and nothing to do all summer

Pretty sure I'd still ride it, and if it broke, I'd want to punch you in the dick, but I'm a reasonable man and would never sue you.

So build me a spencer.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 17:07
klondikebear
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Wed, 03/10/2010 - 18:06
dougtruck
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i asked opinions on FF a year or two ago. the consensus was ok to build at cost for friends and stuff. but once you start making a profit on your labor, your labor can be accountable for accidents.

weird to think someones face is in my hands when i'm brazing a joint but it's true.

shit i used to make helicopter transmissions back when i was less-than-sober, so i dunno why i'm trippin.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 18:37
Toast
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just throw on a second top tube like the kilo OS

just as good as insurance

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 18:56
tjayk
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klondikebear wrote:
wait so i can't ride the spencer?

you probably just have to promise you won't, but then of course ride the shit out of it.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 19:26
Freestyler Faixee
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toast wrote:
just throw on a second top tube like the kilo OS

just as good as insurance

Nah, better.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 19:38
Face
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Pharaoh wrote:
toast wrote:
just throw on a second top tube like the kilo OS

just as good as insurance

Nah, better.

3 would be best

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 20:19
klondikebear
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tjayk wrote:
klondikebear wrote:
wait so i can't ride the spencer?

you probably just have to promise you won't, but then of course ride the shit out of it.

oh, sounds like a deal :)

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 20:31
biek

klondikebear wrote:
wait so i can't ride the spencer?

face palm.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Wed, 03/10/2010 - 21:25
Top Tube
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This site has some cool stuff, I'm thinking of trying to build some racks. Anyone here have experience?

Alex Wetmore's Rack Building Basics

Thu, 03/11/2010 - 23:50
klondikebear
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That sounds awesome Lindsey!

I would totally want to buy one from you when you get started

Fri, 03/12/2010 - 02:02
Face
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Top Tube wrote:
This site has some cool stuff, I'm thinking of trying to build some racks. Anyone here have experience?

Alex Wetmore's Rack Building Basics

no experience, but i intend to try and build a rack later this month... or at least make some drawings and buy the materials and let them sit and rot in my garage.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Fri, 03/12/2010 - 13:32
Top Tube
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we should trade notes as they (slowly) get built
what style of rack are you thinking of?

Fri, 03/12/2010 - 13:44
Face
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i want to make a rear rack that mounts on the rear axle with a single strut going up to the seat stay yoke. as much as i would like to braze it, i don't have the equipment to do such a thing. i do have a mig welder and i was planning on using some slightly thicker walled tubing than what was used in the link you posted so i can weld it up without any risk of burning through.

basically, a heavy and probably ugly copy of the axiom streamliner road that will fit my 29er and clear disc brakes. just something to throw panniers on for going to school and running errands around town. once i have some free time and it stops raining, i'll buy some steel and start fucking shit up.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Fri, 03/12/2010 - 15:40
dougtruck
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my friend sean is building custom racks. in fact he's building one for the frame i'm working on now. I'll try and get some pics of his set up. basically a tubing bender and a brazing fixture made from 80/20

Fri, 03/12/2010 - 17:34
E-ROCK
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Frame builders, would it be possible to change the trail of a fork without any adverse affects? Josh Muir has this contraption down the street from me. Could it be used?

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 20:06
turpencat
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tire clearance is the issue

tjayk wrote:
klondikebear wrote:
wait so i can't ride the spencer?

you probably just have to promise you won't, but then of course ride the shit out of it.

if it broke i'd fix it. it shouldn't though.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 20:16
E-ROCK
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That makes sense

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 20:25
Face
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turpentine wrote:
tire clearance is the issue

tjayk wrote:
klondikebear wrote:
wait so i can't ride the spencer?

you probably just have to promise you won't, but then of course ride the shit out of it.

if it broke i'd fix it. it shouldn't though.

the problem would be what happens to your body rather than the frame. that's what the insurance would be for.

Mr. Pubes wrote:
i fear that you are so lost in your own asshole that you may never be found again. do you have a flare gun? send for help.

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 01:46
turpencat
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well if it failed it would be a joint cracking or something. you would just see it coming if you are at all attentive. I am honestly not worried about frame failure. I can get sued if you are riding my spencer and you get hit and injured. Or if you fall off a cliff or something. You might not win the case but the insurance would be there for me so I no worry.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 08:47
tjayk
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turpentine wrote:
well if it failed it would be a joint cracking or something. you would just see it coming if you are at all attentive. I am honestly not worried about frame failure. I can get sued if you are riding my spencer and you get hit and injured. Or if you fall off a cliff or something. You might not win the case but the insurance would be there for me so I no worry.

that seems silly. if i get in an accident on my own fault/drive off a cliff of my own accord - can i sue the maker of my car? doubt it.

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 09:21
spaghetti
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tjayk wrote:
turpentine wrote:
well if it failed it would be a joint cracking or something. you would just see it coming if you are at all attentive. I am honestly not worried about frame failure. I can get sued if you are riding my spencer and you get hit and injured. Or if you fall off a cliff or something. You might not win the case but the insurance would be there for me so I no worry.

that seems silly. if i get in an accident on my own fault/drive off a cliff of my own accord - can i sue the maker of my car? doubt it.

uhhhhhhh

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 09:41
halbritt
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tjayk wrote:
that seems silly. if i get in an accident on my own fault/drive off a cliff of my own accord - can i sue the maker of my car? doubt it.

You can sue anybody you please for any reason and in this country, there is little to discourage folks from doing so. Unfortunately, this has turned civil courts into a lottery of sorts.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 16:43
turpencat
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heath is right again.
the logic for suing me would go
you sold me a bike
which encouraged me to be on the street without a ton of steel protecting me
I got hit by a motorist and injured
you sold me a vehicle that did not adequately protect me and are therefore at fault.

or I didn't make sure you knew how to ride the spencer before I sold it to you.
or the spencer caught on fire in some way or something
the possibilities are there.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Mon, 03/15/2010 - 20:25

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