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halbritt
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Do we already have a thread for this?

Been excited to see Theo Bos go up against Cavendish. Didn't really happen last year because of Bos' suspension. Well:

Bos beats Cav’ in Almería

Now I'm interested to see if Bos can hold on once Cavendish has some of his form back.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 06:09
donks
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^ pretty damn happy about that

and hows that k-b-k race yesterday...only 26 finishers...sounds tuuufffffffffff

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 07:07
Endpoint
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Not that KBK is not a tough race but often in these early season semi-classics most of the riders will drop out early once a break goes or a selection is made. Many use this race merely as test of form for the coming major spring classics.

It is pretty crazy to think about how that some guys just use something like this as a training race while others are in it to win it.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 07:32
kyle!
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HA, I just found out yesterday about Bos switching to road. I guess his suspension was effective. Anyway, I'm a total Cav fanboy but I fucking love that he has some competition now, and it happens to be Bos. I'm going to request most of the classics days(milan san remo, paris roubaix, etc) off of work this year so I can actually watch them live-ish.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:15
spaghetti
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Where does one watch the classics?
Universal Sports or whatever that's called?

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:23
Ashes Dust
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Yeah, or Versus.

LOL. Stay right there. Imma go put some cones out. - Heath
edit2: dont GIS, i did, dont. NSFW - Miguel

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:26
dmotobear
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has universal released any tv schedule yet for this year? I havent seen one.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:43
Patch
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versus

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:45
feta lightning
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online streams. cyclingfans.com or steephill.tv i doubt we'll get same day coverage for the classics, maybe the ronde de vlaanderan and paris-roubaix, but nothing else.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 14:02
y
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Flecha's win was awesome. Well deserved by a real class act and tough guy, who happened to be one of my favorites coming in. He said he dedicated his victory to VDB in a post-race interview.

It was sweet to see local boy Dominique Rollin come in 5th at kbk too. Sure none of the big guns gave it much effort (except Thor before he saw he wasn't gonna make it) but it was still a great race to watch and a typical belgian war of attrition.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 15:05
halbritt
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Welcome back, Jacques!

kyle! wrote:
HA, I just found out yesterday about Bos switching to road. I guess his suspension was effective. Anyway, I'm a total Cav fanboy but I fucking love that he has some competition now, and it happens to be Bos. I'm going to request most of the classics days(milan san remo, paris roubaix, etc) off of work this year so I can actually watch them live-ish.

I'm also a total Cavendish fan boy. I'm hoping he does well this season, but I'd also like to see him face some competition.

I don't know that I'd call the suspension "effective". It was a pretty sad set of circumstances for everyone involved and a real bummer for that to happen to Bos in his debut season. Based on what I saw in the Tour of Qatar, it looks like Bos has more speed than sense. I mean, I'm just armchair quarterbacking, but check it:

Dude went at around 500 meters (24 seconds before the finish at 18-20m/s). There's no way he was going to hold off all those guys for that long. Anyway, I'm stoked to see several strong sprinters on the Cervelo team, with him, Husovd, and Haussler, if they can get it together, they ought to do well.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 15:39
petit jong cat
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Bos did say it was an accident and I could see the reason's why. While I don't approve of what was done, it really is nice to see some spirited competition for this year's Tour!

Very happy that y'all are so excited about cycling as I am! That isn't saying much, is it? At any rate, HI-5!!

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Mon, 03/01/2010 - 15:59
kyle!
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Ha I didn't mean effective like he deserved it or anything. Just that I didn't even know he was road racing at all now so he was gone for a bit. I dunno. I catch as much as I can with pro cycling, but details and events like that always slip by me.

Anyway, I'm excited to see Team Sky develop through the season.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 16:14
halbritt
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I don't think anyone believes Bos was trying to hurt Impey. Bos panicked, took his hands of the bars, and got suspended for that, rightly so. Good to see him back and with Cervelo.

bradencbc wrote:
It is pretty crazy to think about how that some guys just use something like this as a training race while others are in it to win it.

I like Contador's attitude. He's been quoted as saying that if he shows up, he intends to win. Of course, that's an easy statement to make when you're an excellent time trialist and the strongest climber in the world.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 16:31
petit jong cat
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@kyle: I have a pretty busy schedule, so for me... I keep up with a lot of the news on Twitter and subscribing to the Cervelo Test Team newsletter. Surprisingly they give a fair and honest report of the stages. The post-race interview with the riders are neat too!

@halbritt: Agreed. There's no way Bos' upper body is physically strong enough to pull Impey over while riding @ 35mph+. Impey probably just got caught on Bos' front wheel and went over. I'm sure you've seen the video so I'll refrain from poasting it.

teepz wrote:
ive never wanted to punch you in the fucking face more than i do right now, lpc

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 16:36
kyle!
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Yeah, I read Velonews a few times a week. I don't really like reading race reports though. I'd rather watch it all unfold. Basically living in the states sucks for anyone who wants to watch cycling on TV even sort of often.

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 16:43
halbritt
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I keep up with steephill. I like to watch the highlights, usually from eurosport. I want to see the attacks and the finish.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Mon, 03/01/2010 - 19:13
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bradencbc wrote:
Not that KBK is not a tough race but often in these early season semi-classics most of the riders will drop out early once a break goes or a selection is made. Many use this race merely as test of form for the coming major spring classics.

It is pretty crazy to think about how that some guys just use something like this as a training race while others are in it to win it.

I was watching KBK live and the weather was fucking epic, wind and rain all day long. Sure, a lot of the big names dropped out because of the weather and having raced the day before but Hushovd clearly went for it but cracked... now there's something you don't see every day. Hunt was riding with Thor in the second group (6th position) and just quit and got into a car...

This vid gives a good impression of what it was like http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/MG_sportnieuws/MG_wielrennen/1.727410

I'd never seen anything like this before, crazy.

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 06:09
donks
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the final kms

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 12:29
halbritt
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That Vacansoleil guy didn't win any friends that day. Watching him not take a pull was comical.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 13:58
Carabo
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Not really. he's just riding like a smartass to let it come down to a sprint. Traksel was by far the strongest, he didn't steal this win (having been at the front from halfway the race, the others joined later)

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 14:09
dmotobear
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halbritt wrote:
That Vacansoleil guy didn't win any friends that day. Watching him not take a pull was comical.

Not pulling during the break, making it succeed, is lame.. unless you really can't pull. Not pulling in the closing km's, when you know the break will stick, is standard operating procedure for anybody looking to win. It is a lesson that you will quickly learn when you are at the front, at the end of a race. I've came up short because I put in monster efforts on the last few laps of crits or road races only to have some dude that sucked my wheel all day come around me with a few meters to go. thats life, race smarter the next time and you can do the same thing.. its a high-speed rolling chess game of pain.

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 15:11
halbritt
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Understood. It just seemed strange that the guy refused to take a pull so early on... or maybe I read the race report wrong.

Edit: the video doesn't reflect what I read. He took a pull or two and attacked once or twice in the last few minutes. I read that he was just sucking wheel all the way to the finish.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Tue, 03/02/2010 - 16:53
Endpoint
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I really doubt Bos will challenge Cav much this season. I just don't see Cervelo backing him in the field sprints at the big races with Haussler and Hushovd in there. I would like to see him take some sprints at some of the minor mini-stage races but in the big show he'll either be in the leadout train or on the bench this year.

I may be overly optimistic but I think Farrar is the real threat to Cav this year. Maybe Boonen too. He seems to have regained some of the fire he had in years past. If he takes PR or Flanders he'll probably soft pedal the rest of the season but if he comes up empty handed in the spring classics Cav will have to watch his back.

I keep waiting to see Ciolek really break through but I don't think it will happen.

Most of the other true fast men like McEwen, Bennati, and Pettachi are over the hill and relegated to mixing it up at whatever grand tour Cav sits out.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 07:56
Endpoint
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Oh and my darkhorse in the sprints has to be Greg Henderson. He was faster than just about everyone this year when he was Cav's final leadout man and now that he can race for himself at Sky I am really keen to see what he can REALLY do.

Even though he's more of a straight up strong man Boassen-Hagen can win a sprint too so Sky might be the real challengers to HTC's dominance.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 07:59
petit jong cat
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Team Sky is doing really well especially for their debut in what will be leading up to the Tour. They won either the prologue (time trial) to the Tour of Down Under and/ or maybe the first stage as well? A few other stages too? It's fuzzy and I do remember them saying they surpassed their expectations... and I don't necessarily believe it's shit-mouth/ catering to the press. Very good results for such a young team.

Last year's Tour, we know that Hushovd could win races. We also know that Haussler could win races. Coming this July, with Sastre's goal to win the GC and Hushovd's aim to hold onto the green... what's Haussler's role in the Cervelo Test Team?

Of course can't forget about Frank and Andy Schelck, Alberto Contador and Lance Armstrong! Don't forget about Bradley Wiggins because he finished 4th last year! I think this year's Tour will be very exciting!

teepz wrote:
ive never wanted to punch you in the fucking face more than i do right now, lpc

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 10:19
Endpoint
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Gotta remember what Vaughters said about Wiggins...
“In 2009, the tactics worked in his favour and Astana were soft-pedalling a bit to not embarrass Lance [Armstrong],”

Also I think this is the year that Haussler really comes into his own and Hushvod will assume the role of mentor to a younger faster rider. Cervelo could be deadly in spring classics with this duo though. Wevelgem, Flanders, and really any of the sprint friendly classics they are a legit threat.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 10:45
1percenttruck
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I'm still betting the house on Wiggins. But I genuinely like the guy. Oh, and Contador over Armstrong for 2010, followed by Lance retiring again.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 11:49
dmotobear
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I'm going to root for Danielson again this year..

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 12:01
Ashes Dust
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Universal Sports has been replaying some of the races from last year. I watched the 2009 Milan-San Remo last night and seeing Cavendish beat Haussler by a 1/4 wheel was pretty amazing. Felt real bad for Haussler.

LOL. Stay right there. Imma go put some cones out. - Heath
edit2: dont GIS, i did, dont. NSFW - Miguel

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 12:03
kyle!
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Yeah I'm gonna catch that on Sunday. I've never seen the whole deal.

Yeah, I doubt we'll see much of Bos which is too bad. And as much as I favor Cavendish, things don't look like they're gonna be as easy for him this time. There's going to be a lot of fucking awesome sprint finishes this year, that's for sure.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 12:55
halbritt
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Bos missed the split in Vuelta a Murcia today and wasn't in the lead group for a bunch sprint finish.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 15:49
Larry Winget
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I'm interested to see what Gilbert will be able to produce in the classics this year. Pretty fuckin' lame that Lotto lost Van Summeren for this season though. That dude is an animal.

Gotta wonder how/if Ballan and Hincapie will work together at BMC.

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Wed, 03/03/2010 - 16:05
halbritt
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One wonders what BMC is going to get invited to.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 16:09
Larry Winget
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halbritt wrote:
One wonders what BMC is going to get invited to.

What's the issue?

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Wed, 03/03/2010 - 16:31
dmotobear
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halbritt wrote:
One wonders what BMC is going to get invited to.

Problem is that they are a pro cont team.. and need wildcard invites to big races..

Solution: WC, former WC, US Champ, Burghardt, Kroon, etc.. they will get any wildcard they want.

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 16:37
Larry Winget
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dmotoguy wrote:
halbritt wrote:
One wonders what BMC is going to get invited to.

Problem is that they are a pro cont team.. and need wildcard invites to big races..

Solution: WC, former WC, US Champ, Burghardt, Kroon, etc.. they will get any wildcard they want.

Yeah. That's why was confused about what Heath said.

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Wed, 03/03/2010 - 16:41
halbritt
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moonbear wrote:
dmotoguy wrote:
halbritt wrote:
One wonders what BMC is going to get invited to.

Problem is that they are a pro cont team.. and need wildcard invites to big races..

Solution: WC, former WC, US Champ, Burghardt, Kroon, etc.. they will get any wildcard they want.

Yeah. That's why was confused about what Heath said.

I'm not suggesting that they won't get invited, just that I don't know what, and I wonder.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Wed, 03/03/2010 - 17:26
Cadence
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Does anyone know if Skil-Shimano is around this year? I haven't seen anything of them so far this season, and they were fun to watch in the TdF last year.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:37
Cadence
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Holy shit! Fumy Beppu got picked up by Radioshack! That's awesome!

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 00:45
halbritt
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Yes and yes.

...shift like jesus making one set of footprints in the sand in your time of need

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 04:31
Cadence
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Speaking of Fumy Beppu, for the four people in the world who haven't already seen this:

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 21:13
curiousincident
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His face is so perfect in that photo. Love it.

I gotta put velonews back in my bookmarks and get caught up on what's going on this season.

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 21:58
Ashes Dust
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That face is how I picture The Little Princes face to be when he posts! Hi5!

LOL. Stay right there. Imma go put some cones out. - Heath
edit2: dont GIS, i did, dont. NSFW - Miguel

Sat, 03/06/2010 - 22:02
turpencat
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i want fumiyuki to become hella important. I hope his being in radio shack really helps him out.

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Sat, 03/06/2010 - 23:16
wickedwagon
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i want him to win a stage and wheelie accross the finish line.

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Sun, 03/07/2010 - 02:30
Cadence
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Ranger Bear wrote:
i want him to win a stage and wheelie accross the finish line.

THIS x1000

I think Fumy Beppu should be the official tarck-endorsed PRO rider.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 03:35
halbritt
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Ok. Who's going to win Paris-Nice? Luis Leon Sanchez is the likely favorite, but I think Contador wants to win this one to prove something. Sanchez has pretty good form right now, though. Contador, livid from his experience at Algarve demanded of the UCI to know what bike he could ride in the TT. Their suggestion:

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Sun, 03/07/2010 - 04:57
teepz
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Is there any good online news for cycling? Velo News is written by twelve year-olds and I always feel like Cycling News is written in another language, and then translated awkwardly into English. I don't think either employ any copy editors. Both have flashes of good photography, but for the most part have fucking terrible images.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 05:12
LADY GAGA
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just read ATTT

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 05:28
Endpoint
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Pari-Nice

LL Sanchez is indeed the favorite but if Contador has said that if he lines up at a race he will try and win so I doubt he just there for training.
Sammy Sanchez is a threat as well. Kreuziger is aways a threat when it comes to shorter stage races. Also if Frank Schleck wants to win any races this year he better focus on ones where his brother is not there like this one.

My top 5:

LL Sanchez
Contador
Kreuziger
Sammy Sanchez
Frank Schleck

Edit: Forgot Valverde... he's going to mix it up some too.

Sun, 03/07/2010 - 10:19

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