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emor
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I've read in a few places that SP is losing its factory. Is that true? Who has deets?

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 00:48
lukasz
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That's it afaik. The factory has made its own dynamos. They should be out any minute and sp is sol. Not sure how or if they can rectify it. Maybe just need a factory.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 01:28
Wintage Townie
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(Reply to #203)

emor wrote:
I've read in a few places that SP is losing its factory. Is that true? Who has deets?

Knowing this fact, and after reading several posts here and Jan's review, I'm kind of glad that my special order SP hub never showed up.

So if you don't want to get boxed out of future warranty work with a Shutter Precision, what should I buy? Once again, just point me to a link and tell me what to get.

Also, am I correct that Bike Discount is no longer shipping Luxos to the US? If so, smiley

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Sun, 12/27/2015 - 21:04
Wintage Townie
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(Reply to #204)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:
i know ive posted about this before but i just ordered one of these through the shop

so i received the lil dealie and the mount
it looks really high quality. i got the "trekking" version so the cap is grey (instead of red). its pretty light for what it is and it will turn off when not connected/switched on. so, if your light is off and the dynamo is pressed against the rim there will be minimal resistance. in fact, i did this with a bike in the stand.

the mount is BULLSHIT. 30E for this nicely machined piece of perforated aluminum which will fit the fork but will not fit the rear stay. There are 3 versions of the mount available - i wasnt sure which i was going to do at first - I got the medium which fits a standard road fork (as vague as that sounds). The small will probably fit a seat stay and a large will probably fit a suspension fork. this problem varying sizes could be solved by perforating a big piece and then having your LBS cut off the unneeded part. Or heck, designing a universal/better mount.

I will take some photos and collect all these little reviews for the "reviews" thread.

Also, what is the month-and-a-half review of this guy like?

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 12/27/2015 - 21:07
oogens
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Bti just started carrying sp, so maybe it isn't that dismal?

Sun, 12/27/2015 - 21:23
Wintage Townie
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I wouldn't take the addition to the BTI catalog as a great sign. They were with whom my three-month outstanding special order was through. I cancelled after I gave notice at my old shop.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 12/27/2015 - 21:25
emor
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I think the only non-$ON choice is Shimano now. Sanyo has cheap ones too but only good for casual bikes.

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Sun, 12/27/2015 - 23:20
lukasz
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I'd still buy an SP. Even if it breaks you can buy another and still be way ahead. I've never broken a hub so I ain't scared.

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 10:33
Rusty Piton
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I've had great experiences with shimano dyno hubs. I see no reason to use any other unless you want some dum blingy son thing.

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Mon, 12/28/2015 - 11:22
biek

shimano 4lyfe.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 11:30
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #211)

Wintage Townie wrote:
NOVELTYNAME wrote:

Also, what is the month-and-a-half review of this guy like?

no review. its not even hooked up. most of the time i can look at a box of parts and have it assembled in a few minutes. this is a bag of legos with text instructions on how to assemble with engineerical drawings that make no sense to someone who does not understand electronics very well.

honestly i need about 3 hours and a 6 pack of beer.

and then i need to figure out if the mount, which i guess-purchased, of which there are -5- sizes/standards available, will work

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 12:05
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #212)

Wintage Townie wrote:
what should I buy? Once again, just point me to a link and tell me what to get.

http://tinyurl.com/nv58vmd

you will be happy with this choice.

Wintage Townie wrote:
Also, am I correct that Bike Discount is no longer shipping Luxos to the US? If so, smiley

there are other places

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 12:09
Andrew_Squirrel
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Update on the IQ-X for those of you patiently awaiting vendor status:

Quote:
Penny at Peter White Cycles says that they should be available there in February and they will be about $155 US.

Wondering if they will arrive earlier to the german/french sites in addition to being cheaper.

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 14:22
buffoon
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what's wrong with the SP hubs?

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 18:13
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #215)

buffoon wrote:
what's wrong with the SP hubs?

they're losing their factory

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 18:16
Andrew_Squirrel
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What I'm gathering from the conversation above:
SP Factory closing and people are afraid they might not reopen (ever? long time?) so people are afraid to buy hubs because many have been sent back for premature failure.
Therefore,no factory = possibly no free replacement for premature failures

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 18:20
buffoon
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What's happening to the factory? I couldn't found anything about that online. That's a real bummer. I like the SP hubs a lot.

There's always gonna be lemons. SON/shimano hub are not all perfect either. No dynamo hubs made are user serviceable.
SP seem reliable enough, especially when they have options that shimano/SON doesn't offer at a really good price. It sounds a little silly to worry about the warranty to me. Good luck getting shimano to warranty your hub bought online or tell me sending your hub back to germany isn't going to be a giant PITA.

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 19:00
crowding
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Losing the factory isn't real specific.... They only moved into their present location Apr 2014 according to their website. I imagine in a place like Taichung buildings and leases and such are constantly getting shuffled around.

Mon, 12/28/2015 - 19:32
mander
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(Reply to #219)

buffoon wrote:
No dynamo hubs made are user serviceable.

? I'm not sure what this means. The shimano dn hubs are cup and cone and can be repacked, though replacement cones are tricky or possibly impossible to find. Do you know this and you meant something else?

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 02:48
emor
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I thought only one side was cup and cone?

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 09:04
Bahamontes
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And thus, my bike24 order of Pv9 x iqx collabo remains vaporware and I ride with Knog lights.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 09:28
ergott
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(Reply to #222)

Bahamontes wrote:
And thus, my bike24 order iqx remains vaporware

If someone on here did it, I'd probably like it. Since it was done by someone I don't know, they're a fucking idiot.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 09:34
Bahamontes
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I got to touch the demo unit Mr & Mrs White had at the Philly Bike Expo that Frank sent me to and Eric won, atmo, even though atmo was there, Winter bikes owned that show.

So I know at least one unit exists, and the Whites are easily subdued if the shit hits the fan. Quite mild mannered and not very big IRL

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 09:45
JUGE FREDD
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(Reply to #224)

emor wrote:
I thought only one side was cup and cone?

only the unwired side is accessible

It's a struggle, but you cut out his tongue, and his last words are "atmo atmo Atmo ATMO ATMOOOOOGORIHGGHRSHGGRLMGGMMGMgrrglegurglegrr....."
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Tue, 12/29/2015 - 13:00
Wintage Townie
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(Reply to #225)

mander wrote:
buffoon wrote:
No dynamo hubs made are user serviceable.

? I'm not sure what this means. The shimano dn hubs are cup and cone and can be repacked, though replacement cones are tricky or possibly impossible to find. Do you know this and you meant something else?

I think he means that no lay person can service the electronics of a dynamo hub.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:43
emor
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(Reply to #226)

JUGE FREDD wrote:
emor wrote:
I thought only one side was cup and cone?

only the unwired side is accessible

But can you pull the axle out after unthreading the other cone?

"my main life goal is to have a dirtbag camper van with a bunch of bikes on it, go camping every vacation forever" -- me

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:51
jawn doe
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Pulling out the axle involves a pretty spensive tool (or a punch and a hammer and no hope of properly reassembling the hub) and even then your access to the drive side bearings isn't great. I haven't cracked open my Alfine but on the nexus hubs I touch all day there's a stupid thin solid wire that goes up the slotted axle that basically renders the whole axle unit useless if severed.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 07:37
buffoon
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^^you guys beat me to it. But seriously, any dynamo hub will give you way more than it costs before there's any trouble

also, I've been super happy with my exposure revo (esp at $100). The light quality is incomparably better on the trails comparing to the Luxos. I can see so much farther when the trail goes up and down. The beam is narrower but I can see around the corners better because it doesn't have the cut off. Also, zero flickering at hiking speed. I would recommend 100% over the german lights for off road riding.

It's not as good as a commuter light - no way to turn the thing off and the standlight stays on forever. The stock mount is solid if you want to put the light on the bars and the light is quick to remove. It's not difficult to make your own mounts, but they won't be quick release.

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:56
Andrew_Squirrel
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It does suck that asymmetrical beams work in the opposite way you desire for tight sweeping turns that force you to lean into the curve.
I wonder if anyone has ever messed around with prototyping an asymmetrical lens in a floating mechanism that allows gravity to keep the cutoff level to the ground in turns but dampened enough so that it doesn't dance around.
With the PCB, LED and heatsink on the top its unfortunately designed in the wrong way if you were to use mass to keep it level.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 17:27
NOVELTYNAME
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i think you really need to ask yourself how often you are actually doing that. pbp was a good experience for me in the need for a good, wide beam so i could see some quick cobbled corners. if you are going that fast on tight turns that regularly i would suggest a bigger, wider lighting system (see:2-3 lights).

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 18:18
Andrew_Squirrel
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You can have 5 asymmetrical lights with the widest beam in the planet but when you lean your bike all the cutoffs are going to tilt and make the direction you're leaning into completely dark. I often notice this on paved hairpins. Exposure Revo easily solves this problem with a flood light but it would be nice if there was a well designed compromise.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 18:37
NOVELTYNAME
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why not a headlamp then

"Folks want options!"

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 18:39
buffoon
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(Reply to #233)

NOVELTYNAME wrote:
why not a headlamp then

adding a headlamp is always going to be "best" for the twisty stuff even on the road, no matter what light you have on the bike
I carry one anyways because I find it useful for repairs, reading route sheets, and etc

If for whatever reason I don't have a headlamp, I much prefer the revo off road comparing to the luxos
On road, the revo beam is narrower but without the cutoff it's still better than the luxos going down curving hills

I'm just saying the revo is an awesome light if you want a dynamo light on your mtb
the tail light is also insanely bright with a really stupid mount

Lippy wrote:
a measured amount of muscle and hate when installing should keep that from happening.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 19:02
oogens
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Dyno powered headlamp

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 00:29
VT regularbike
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(Reply to #235)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
You can have 5 asymmetrical lights with the widest beam in the planet but when you lean your bike all the cutoffs are going to tilt and make the direction you're leaning into completely dark. I often notice this on paved hairpins. Exposure Revo easily solves this problem with a flood light but it would be nice if there was a well designed compromise.

Mount dyno light to a go pro gimbal. Fucking win at everything.

Miguel wrote:
i mean as long as we're spending money, lets just set the wallet on fire ok

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:04
ShartAttack
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Wiring ShartQs:

1) can anybody point me to what the best source of bulk wire is for wiring up a taillight? ie what's the gauge I'm looking for, and Primeable is a bonus. I relocated my headlight and now my rear wire is about 2 inches too short.

2) who was it here that was running their rear wire inside their rear fender? Squirrel? I've got the rear wire taped to the outside of my rear fender but I feel inside the fender might be cleaner looking. Just looking for deets/pics on that again.

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 11:23
NOVELTYNAME
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depends which fender you have. berthoud fenders have a little channel on either side.

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:10
ShartAttack
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Ah these are SKS, definitely no channels

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:30
tamaso
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You could attach the wire on the interior of the SKS w/ dabs of JB Weld / hot glue / epoxy ?

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:42
jimmythefly
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Or long strips of good strong tape. Almost doesn't matter what kind of tape it is packing tape, aluminum tape (but not electrical tape), just clean the fender well and stick the tape down well.

deadforkinglast wrote:
But honestly, I have no idea how I am going to follow through on that plan and I already have a pretty rad bike. I think I just like fucking with my bikes.

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:46
NOVELTYNAME
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(Reply to #241)

jimmythefly wrote:
(but not electrical tape), just clean the fender well and stick the tape down well.

exactly this

if you do use electrical tape, it will come unstuck in some places and start to gather dirt and debris and then slowly peel off and rub annoyingly against the tire. learned that one from experience. cant say i didnt expect it to happen anyway.

"Folks want options!"

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 12:55
eric_ssucks
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Or you could glue it, but since fenders are a wear item, you will need to resign yourself to throwing away wire, too.

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 13:27
Andrew_Squirrel
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(Reply to #243)

ShartAttack wrote:
Wiring ShartQs:

1) can anybody point me to what the best source of bulk wire is for wiring up a taillight? ie what's the gauge I'm looking for, and Primeable is a bonus. I relocated my headlight and now my rear wire is about 2 inches too short.

2) who was it here that was running their rear wire inside their rear fender? Squirrel? I've got the rear wire taped to the outside of my rear fender but I feel inside the fender might be cleaner looking. Just looking for deets/pics on that again.

- Looks like Ocean Air finally exhausted their stock: http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/coaxial-lighting-wire
I think Fred was the one that originally recommended this wire to to OAC: http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/microphone/unbalanced/
If you have one laying around, I've used random wire cut from an old AC wall-brick charging cable before. Most of the time it is about the same gauge.

- Yeah, i've done it twice. Once on VO fenders and once on Berthoud. The VO were extremely challenging because I had to make a hook tool from an old flat nail so I could pry the edge open, insert the wire and pinch closed with needle nose pliers. The best part was that I didn't have to use any adhesive but it was very labor intensive. The Berthoud fenders have an open gutter so I put the wire in, added some RTV and partially pinched it closed in a couple places. I didn't take any photos of the Berthoud because it wasn't very interesting. Here are some photos from the VO experiment, scroll halfway down this photo album and you should see the fender: https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_squirrel/albums/72157636821200955

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 15:03
yummygooey
Mon, 01/04/2016 - 15:44
blackholelectron
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(Reply to #245)

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
- Yeah, i've done it twice. Once on VO fenders and once on Berthoud. The VO were extremely challenging because I had to make a hook tool from an old flat nail so I could pry the edge open, insert the wire and pinch closed with needle nose pliers.

did exactly this, can confirm for annoyingly fucking labor intensive, but nice looking result!

Quote:
if you're happily shuffling between rural corn dog purchases at 14mph, how are your needs not being met?

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 16:42
Rentable Faxmachine
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What if you glued some heatshrink tubing inside the fender, and then ran the wire inside the tubing (w/o shrinking it)?

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 16:48
eric_ssucks
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if it takes $1.00 of wire to do the run, and you manage to come up with a good connector solution, just glue the fucker and discard when the fender is toast. If you make $20/hr, and spend an hour on it, 10 minutes gluing and 10 minutes putting connectors on is way cheaper and easier than hours prying fenders apart and putting them back together.

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 16:51
ShartAttack
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(Reply to #248)

Ordered 14 feet of this shiz (limited stock I guess so that's the most you can order without the rest being delayed).

Current plan is to wait for this stuff to arrive, then drill the fender, run the wire underneath, shoe goo the ends of the wires at the fender, and gorilla tape the wire in place. Or maybe super glue. Now I just need some more heat shrink and I think I should be set. Will see how I like that coaxial cable, it looks like i have enough B&M wire left but I would have to connect two pieces. So disconnect at the fender? So much dithering to do...

Former RAGBRAI enthusiast

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 17:09
jawn doe
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Sks longboards have two conductive strips in em if you're looking for clean routing

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 20:37
Andrew_Squirrel
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Have you ever used them for dynamo wiring purposes?
If so, did you solder to them directly or drill out and use ground lug crimp terminal + bolt?

Mon, 01/04/2016 - 20:39

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