the "should i?" thread

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turpencat
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richard sachs clearcoated would be baller as hell atmo.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 07:00
Patch
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turpentine wrote:
richard sachs clearcoated would be baller as hell atmo.

Seriously. that guy is getting my dream bike. Fuckin a. Lemme know how it goes, and if you wanna sell it ;P

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 09:00
Ash
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that guy wrote:
bit too small

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 15:49
tdhk

that guy wrote:
So I'm third in line for a 78 Richard Sachs road frame

bad: bit too small and is powdercoated clear, no paint.

good: $550 shipped.

Ugghhghghghghghghh...............

I might be small enough for it. I'll take it of someone's hands, lmk

and good luck

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 16:55
that guy
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddddd.......... i bought it.

Not yet in my possession.

Sneak peek:

You can see the dust on there.

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 19:38
tdhk

nice, again. if it don;t fit. It'll fit me!

Thu, 11/12/2009 - 19:49
NKOTB
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Should I buy that to build a singlespeed with fenders, fat tires and cantis, when I already have a frame with the appropriate clearences and fender mounts but sans cantis.

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 06:24
Patch
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No. Definitely not. Spend the money on some widemouth brakes. That frame don't have eyelets.

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 07:43
y
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it does in the back but it's a total shit

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 08:48
oogens
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need to have a second person tell me how stupid i am for even considering it, so here's the deal.

a barknuckle with a bent chainstay. looks like i bent by the bottom bracket from the guy doing tricks on it (wat? why?)

comes with ck headset. imo he's asking too much, but is this worth offering for at all?

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 22:03
mad scientist
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http://picasaweb.google.it/marcobicicle/COLNAGOTECNOSPurple#

$500 and it is my dream frame/perfect size/amazing color scheme, but I have spent so much lately. I think I need to leave it as a dream for now. Pain.. Suffering..

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 22:40
Larry Winget
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mad scientist wrote:
http://picasaweb.google.it/marcobicicle/COLNAGOTECNOSPurple#

$500 and it is my dream frame/perfect size/amazing color scheme, but I have spent so much lately. I think I need to leave it as a dream for now. Pain.. Suffering..

Sell some shit (or plasma).

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 22:49
Larry Winget
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oogens wrote:
need to have a second person tell me how stupid i am for even considering it, so here's the deal.

a barknuckle with a bent chainstay. looks like i bent by the bottom bracket from the guy doing tricks on it (wat? why?)

comes with ck headset. imo he's asking too much, but is this worth offering for at all?

You are really stupid for even considering it.

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Wed, 11/18/2009 - 22:50
Patch
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tarckeemoon wrote:
mad scientist wrote:
http://picasaweb.google.it/marcobicicle/COLNAGOTECNOSPurple#

$500 and it is my dream frame/perfect size/amazing color scheme, but I have spent so much lately. I think I need to leave it as a dream for now. Pain.. Suffering..

Sell some shit (or plasma).

colnagos don't ride as well as everyone would have you believe. You already have a sweet road bike. But dear lord that paintjob is unreal.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 04:49
NKOTB
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y wrote:
it does in the back but it's a total shit

Figured as much when I heard that it needs a 24mm seatpost.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 06:09
Tail Hook Lengthener
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NKOTB wrote:

Should I buy that to build a singlespeed with fenders, fat tires and cantis, when I already have a frame with the appropriate clearences and fender mounts but sans cantis.

I'll just add my voice to the "No" chorus. Cantilevers aren't all they're cracked up to be - they're difficult to set up and nearly impossible to get as much stopping power as a good dual pivot brake. If you have all the other criteria already met, then this frame would likely be a step back, since the quality appears so-so and it doesn't have braze-ons for a front fender.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 07:46
mad scientist
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Dr. Bold wrote:
tarckeemoon wrote:
mad scientist wrote:
http://picasaweb.google.it/marcobicicle/COLNAGOTECNOSPurple#

$500 and it is my dream frame/perfect size/amazing color scheme, but I have spent so much lately. I think I need to leave it as a dream for now. Pain.. Suffering..

Sell some shit (or plasma).

colnagos don't ride as well as everyone would have you believe. You already have a sweet road bike. But dear lord that paintjob is unreal.

Thanks for the compliment on the Pinarello. She's been my baby since '01 and has been slowly evolving since then. It's aluminum, which is fine since Giovanni did some creative things with tubing geometry to get some of the harshness out where it is unwanted, but I still want a solid classic steel bike eventually.

I slept on the decision overnight and did a bit more research. It turns out the Tecnos is designed for riders who weigh 160 lbs or less, and the Master is designed for riders who weight more than 160 lbs. I am firmly in master territory according to that design spec. I'd have to commit seppuku if I bought it, built it, and had it crumple beneath me.

That paint job is truly insane. I've decided to wait and eventually find a Master frame with either that paint scheme, orange/purple over silver/chrome (not sure if it exists), or orange/blue over silver/chrome (seen it a few times and it is hot).

PS - Your new purple cross machine is gorgeous - congrats.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 07:52
bexley
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Thu, 11/19/2009 - 18:24
Sneaky Viking
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bexley wrote:
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70_162_460_1119&products_id=6039

Probably not in dealz territory, but it's a decent price, no?

It's a great price. Unfortunately, they are perpetually 'Out of Stock.'

ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 18:35
bexley
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Astute!

Thanks. The ask-tarck reflex is strong with me today.

Thu, 11/19/2009 - 18:49
that guy
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Too many projects/builds going right now but spotted this:

Ciocc aluminum cyclocross
1x10 Campy Record Group
Chorus hubs to Open Pros
$700.

Must..... resist........

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Fri, 11/20/2009 - 15:33
DBR
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that guy wrote:
Too many projects/builds going right now but spotted this:

Ciocc aluminum cyclocross
1x10 Campy Record Group
Chorus hubs to Open Pros
$700.

Must..... resist........

whoa dammn that's awesome

Should I buy more bikes even though I totally don't need them? Holy epicc post of indecision coming up (with links!). I'm like the sol of bike fret right now.

I like transformer bikes. Like my cassaroll. But too much swiss army knifing results in stupid compromises.

Haz:
Beater cruiser with rack (ride most when not going fast)
Tarck. (ride most in summer)
Touring/road/winterbike (steel cassaroll with rival/fixie in winter). (ride most rest of time)
Dumbster'd 26" Alu MTB with shit Roxshox and singulator. (ride on trails)

Want:
sick old SLX or whatev' steel frame to put Force stuff on and crazzy wheels. Like this, (fav. bike ever, too small) but with Force
SS29er to replace ghetto ss26er. Tomicog the rear disc and make a winterbike? Option 1. Option 2.
Cross bike (if in fact get into cross, until then ride cassa in races.)
^
all these changes would make cassaroll redundant. And would necessitate full touring bike. But one only goes touring like 2x a year. Quandry.
need:
none of the above. Except one bike to get around.
fml. and fuck this post. Brain ramblings. but still, anything I'm forgetting to lust after?

So ITP: buy force stuff from me so I don't feed my excessive bike purchasing/building. Then I'll shut up. until I get into BMX or whatever other wack shit awaits me around the corner of bikedom.

Fri, 11/20/2009 - 17:12
that guy
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^^^ What size are you riding? I may have some things that would interest you.

Also, not really digging the cable routing on the Ciocc cross frame.

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Fri, 11/20/2009 - 17:25
DBR
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that guy wrote:
^^^ What size are you riding? I may have some things that would interest you.

Also, not really digging the cable routing on the Ciocc cross frame.

kewl. it wants a carbon fork though. I would feel pretty silly buying a really baller bike before getting into cross, I wanna try it for a season on my cassaroll, cuz I'd suck anyway but probably wouldn't damage the bike as I'm decently competent.

I ride a 57cm c-c square. give or take. I'd be entertained by anything with a story :). In MTB land probably a 20" but don't know about 29er sizing. In Fla you don't have seasonal bikes like us mountain bastards, I bet. Probably like a dedicated rain bike?

Fri, 11/20/2009 - 17:36
tdhk

Should I purchase a pair Rolf vectors ( shimano ) looks like these
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolf-Vector-Comp-700cc-Wheelset_W0QQitemZ160379721528QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2557605738#ht_500wt_948

with a full ultegra/da Groupset for 150$

Would it worth my time to buy these bits a flip em on the bay?

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 03:37
E-ROCK
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Sun, 11/22/2009 - 13:43
Sneaky Viking
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ckd wrote:
I mean, seriously. We're just a bunch of washed up bicycle burnout dipshits.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 15:29
Larry Winget
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sneaky viking wrote:
bruce gordon rock& road $500
http://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/1477597811.html

if it's your size, yep.

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 17:08
turpencat
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sneaky viking wrote:
bruce gordon rock& road $500
http://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/1477597811.html

shit yeah
if it comes with that deore bullshit upgrade it but the frame is worth that much alone.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 19:14
Uncle Spam
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So I'm thinking too expensive for almost five years old plus I don't know if the crabon is fatigued...

http://boone.craigslist.org/bik/1477419777.html

but full ultegra and it's a helluva lot cheaper than TCR's go for new. The only reason I'm even considering is because it is local and I am looking for a bike to race on.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 19:19
turpencat
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dnb.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 19:27
Tail Hook Lengthener
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You could lowball him and see how that goes. This time of year, it's pretty hopeful to think you can get $1100 for a five year old bike with an older generation group on it.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 19:34
Uncle Spam
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That's what I was thinking, it just makes me feel like a jackass, even if he does have quite the hopeful price. Especially around here, the snow will be here in no time and that won't stop for a couple months.

Sun, 11/22/2009 - 19:44
DBR
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Wed, 11/25/2009 - 15:01
turpencat
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meh.

johnnyraja wrote:
If you've never done it then yes, it's very surprising.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 15:28
that guy
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Uncle Spam wrote:
plus I don't know if the crabon is fatigued...

Not a great deal, but....

Quote:
Carbon fiber also has a better fatigue life than steel, titanium, or aluminum

I would trust what Craig Calfee says.

Bikes suck. Don't ride one.

Wed, 11/25/2009 - 18:28
Tail Hook Lengthener
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Should I sell my LeMond and Javelin and buy this?

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 00:45
hambeki
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I would, but I don't know how much $$$ that thing will end up going for. I'm sure that would be an absolutely awesome frame.

I'd have to think long and hard about that Grizzly. Those bikes are baller, but I don't know if I'd drop $500 on it if it didn't come with a squishy fork up front.

MoonCat wrote:
All bikes are really just overpriced crosschecks with different geometries.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 00:59
biek

bonechilling wrote:
Should I sell my LeMond and Javelin and buy this?

a) do you ride a 44cm?
b) won't a 44cm with 700c's have wonky geometry?
c) that is listed locally on cl, if you really want it i could buy it locally , maybe try to haggle, and ship to you so you don't have to wrangle with ebay.

pappaheugwang wrote:
u mad bro?

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 01:00
hambeki
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It's got a 53cm effective top tube and the headtube is pretty long for a 44. I think it'll ride like a bigger bike, only with more seatpost showing.

MoonCat wrote:
All bikes are really just overpriced crosschecks with different geometries.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 01:10
Tail Hook Lengthener
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As CKD points out, that's classic compact geometry, which is pretty normal by now and shouldn't raise any eyebrows. The bike is my size. It was already listed once, for the same price, and no one bid. I think it's an odd size and a bad time of year to be dumping a track bike. I've always loved and lusted after IF frames, and buying a similar bike like that new would probably run me $2000, but I'm still not sure though that I want to lay out $700 on another new bike, especially contingent on selling two others bikes off-season.

Sneaky Viking wrote:
when you look back at your life sometimes you see a set of hands on your keyboard and a set of paws, but sometimes there's only a set of paws and that's when Tarckbear was typing for you.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 01:58
mr. fop
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i'd buy the bike, hole up for the winter, not date and wait until spring to sell the javelin. a great bike is worth a few months of sacrifice as i see it.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 02:20
DBR
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crushkilldestroy wrote:
I'd have to think long and hard about that Grizzly. Those bikes are baller, but I don't know if I'd drop $500 on it if it didn't come with a squishy fork up front.

my thoughts exactly. thanks! may try and sell singlespeed 26" to finance.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 02:27
mr. fop
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your avatar makes me think your rusty.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 02:32
mad scientist
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that guy wrote:
Uncle Spam wrote:
plus I don't know if the crabon is fatigued...

Not a great deal, but....

Quote:
Carbon fiber also has a better fatigue life than steel, titanium, or aluminum

I would trust what Craig Calfee says.

Unfortunately the loading mechanisms in tubing made from carbon fiber reinforced polymers are much more complex than in homogeneous metal tubes. If designed really well, CF frames can be great, but things like interfacial delamination between layers of the layup and even separation of the fibers from the matrix at their interface due to some fatigue mechanisms are their Achilles' heal. Because so many variations in fiber geometry and layup methods exist, you have to be really careful about what you buy. A good deal of it is crap.

Thu, 11/26/2009 - 10:14
Blacksail
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Wed, 12/02/2009 - 19:01
Larry Winget
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I am really beginning to hate funny bikes.

The Pitbull of Personal Development®

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 19:35
Blacksail
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It's so cheap though.

Put stupid risers and you could have a super funny looking and potentially fun bike.

I mean... deep track drops for aero position.

Wed, 12/02/2009 - 23:54
mr. fop
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i don't understand how anyone can spend more than $2 on a bike that they don't plan on putting thousands of miles on.

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 01:02
DBR
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lot_22 wrote:
i don't understand how anyone can spend more than $2 on a bike that they don't plan on putting thousands of miles on.

that's why tallbikes are free?

Thu, 12/03/2009 - 03:19

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